All of those shows you listed also deal with nearly 20 minutes of commercials per episode. House's 22-24 episode format would only translate to about 15 hours of airtime on HBO. Thats a **** load more content youd need to produce if you wanted to do 20+ eps commercial free.
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I was going to say the same thing, but I assumed we all knew that. 15 minutes more each episode with a sizable difference in costume, setting, and effects. Can't compare with network shows.
For those wishing for extended seasons, you'll be getting your wish with 3 & 4. That's twenty episodes for one book. If people start to feel its dragging on during those seasons, with the book that contains the most story, then you can imagine how it would be for the rest of the books/seasons.
I'd like to note, that with only ten episodes, one important character's storyline had to be beefed up and altered because there was so little in the books that wouldn't be dull when put on TV.
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I'd be supportive of 12-13 episodes a season just because there is so much going on and I don't think adding a 2-3 more episodes would dilute the content too much though anything more would probably weaken the show (I haven't read the books so what do I know). It is kinda odd that it is only 10 episodes a season considering most of the other big HBO dramas that I'm aware of are all 12-13 episodes long.
I'd be supportive of 12-13 episodes a season just because there is so much going on and I don't think adding a 2-3 more episodes would dilute the content too much though anything would probably weaken the show (I haven't read the books so what do I know). It is kinda odd that it is only 10 episodes a season considering most of the other big HBO dramas that I'm aware of are all 12-13 episodes long.
Honestly, I think 12 would be perfect. It'd add just enough time to prevent things from being convoluted while keeping the season brief enough for the production quality and budget to stay relatively unchanged.
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All of those shows you listed also deal with nearly 20 minutes of commercials per episode. House's 22-24 episode format would only translate to about 15 hours of airtime on HBO. Thats a **** load more content youd need to produce if you wanted to do 20+ eps commercial free.
There is about 10 minutes extra in a GoT episode to those shows, especially after you take out the 3+ minute intro. That equates to 12 episodes of any of those shows from 10 GoT episodes.
I personally feel like a lot of the characters are underdeveloped which is a time constraint being placed on it. For instance I barely care about Bran because he gets so little development. The whole relationship between Dany and Jorah comes out of nowhere in season 2 because they seemingly had no time in season 1.
The characters that get the time put in are awesome, characters like Cersei, Tyrion, Joffrey and Eddard Stark but it just leaves you wanting more from some of the others. The whole Snow plot still just seems like they tacked it on because I don't really care about Snow, I really don't care about the other guys up north because they just don't get enough screen time.
Now I probably sound overly negative because I think the show is as good as any on TV and genuinely awesome, I just think it could be so much better with a significant amount more time. I also thoroughly enjoy character development and everything that goes with that and think that along with the political intrigue is what makes the show and I believe those would be the two areas that would benefit most from more episodes.
I just want more, even 12 would do the trick! The show is so well made I have complete faith that things would still be awesome if they made 30 episodes and I'd have far more GoT to watch ;)
Maybe this can't be answered without spoiling, but I don't understand what happened in Wintefell in the last episode. The old guy said it is 500 vs 20 and to run away while it is dark, but they don't, and then those 20 guys decide to walk out casually during daylight to go "back home", and the next scene you see of the city is that of a burning deserted place. The Stark kid and crew go to escape, and the old guy says to leave ASAP before "they" come back. What am I missing here? Who wrecked the place? What happened to the 500 Northerners coming to take Winterfell back?
Also, didn't Stannis Baratheon get captured at the end of the previous episode in King's Landing? Or was he being forced away by his own to flee? I thought it was him being captured.
With Theon... if you watched a couple of episodes Stark offered free passage to any Iron Islander who wanted it except Theon, so they must have handed over Theon and gone home, that's how I took it.
I'm guessing they must have torched the place on their way out and they would be who the maester is worried about coming back but not certain!
Stannis I guess must have been dragged out because he wasn't a prisoner!
Again... both those are reasons that an extra episode or two wouldn't hurt :)
Yeah I guess them leaving makes some sense but the guys were close enough to annoy them with the horn all night - surely they'd be close enough to stop them torching the whole keep and prevent them coming back. I was thinking maybe the place was attacked randomly by someone else all of a sudden wiping all concerned out and it just hasn't been covered by the TV show yet but that seems a little unlikely.
Yeah I guess them leaving makes some sense but the guys were close enough to annoy them with the horn all night - surely they'd be close enough to stop them torching the whole keep and prevent them coming back. I was thinking maybe the place was attacked randomly by someone else all of a sudden wiping all concerned out and it just hasn't been covered by the TV show yet but that seems a little unlikely.
The way I saw it was that the guys surrounding Winterfell weren't Stark's men, but the bastard son of one of Stark's lieutenants and his men. They probably were from a nearby village, and had no real allegience to Winterfell the actual city, and so when the Iron Islanders left the place burning, they weren't compelled to do anything about it since they already got what they came for in Theon.
As for Stannis, if you watch Blackwater again, you can see the guys dragging him away are not clothed in the same uniform as the royal army or whatever, they had much plainer clothes on like Stannis's soldiers. At least that's how I saw it when I first watched the episode.
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The way I saw it was that the guys surrounding Winterfell weren't Stark's men, but the bastard son of one of Stark's lieutenants and his men. They probably were from a nearby village, and had no real allegience to Winterfell the actual city, and so when the Iron Islanders left the place burning, they weren't compelled to do anything about it since they already got what they came for in Theon.
As for Stannis, if you watch Blackwater again, you can see the guys dragging him away are not clothed in the same uniform as the royal army or whatever, they had much plainer clothes on like Stannis's soldiers. At least that's how I saw it when I first watched the episode.
In one of the episodes Robb agrees to allow Roose Bolton to contact "the bastard of Bolton" to lead 500 men to attack Winterfell and free it of the Ironborn. The Coat of Arms of the house Bolton is a man being Flayed on a field of pink and blood droplets.
You get an understanding of what kind of man Roose is in a couple episodes where he tells a nurse not to waste time on some Lannister men.
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