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Old 06-12-2012, 04:02 PM    (permalink
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Bye Bye Ballard.. Damn so now we have an unknown guy with potential, and someone raw with a of potential. So we really need to actually get a TE and keep the guy. How are we to develop a TE if it's musical TEs?
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Part of the risk you run when you try to sneak someone on to IR in the offseason.
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Do the Pats really need a 4th TE? I'm not happy with this and it's a bad job by Reese. We should have not signed Bernard and I like him for depth but he was unnecessary with Rogers here.
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Also why can't you just place someone on IR in the middle of the offseason? Why do you have to risk exposing them to waivers? This makes no sense.
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Also why can't you just place someone on IR in the middle of the offseason? Why do you have to risk exposing them to waivers? This makes no sense.
Again, this is just be going off memory, but the reasoning is, teams can't just sign a player and then put them on IR to open another 90 man roster spot. This allows players that might have a minor injury to be exposed to waivers and a team that may be willing to carry them on the active roster.
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Again, this is just be going off memory, but the reasoning is, teams can't just sign a player and then put them on IR to open another 90 man roster spot. This allows players that might have a minor injury to be exposed to waivers and a team that may be willing to carry them on the active roster.
Yeah but you're telling me if the Giants had to IR JPP in the offseason he would have to go through waivers? I can't believe that.
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Ok I found out that players who have 4 years or less of service time have to go through waivers to be placed on IR in the offseason. I guess if it was big name players like Cruz or JPP then then would just have to wait and not place them there until first cuts. It's a surprise the Pats did this.
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our TE depth is such trash right now, ugh
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Well it was going to be trash this year even if he wasn't claimed by the Pats.
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Actually if the team would have simply waited until the end of the preseason then they could have just put him on IR without passing through waivers.

The team probably assumed, rather reasonably to be honest, that no one would bother grabbing him.
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Actually if the team would have simply waited until the end of the preseason then they could have just put him on IR without passing through waivers.

The team probably assumed, rather reasonably to be honest, that no one would bother grabbing him.
Well we had to make room on the roster for Rocky Bernard.
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Yay! Rocky Bernard as our 5th DT for a year and no more Ballard! What a fair trade! NAHT! This is horseshit, I loved Ballard :(
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It was more to get DT's in here for practice. We're very thin right now with some of the guys not playing. Bernard probably doesn't make the team unless Rogers looks like absolute doo doo.
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Well it was going to be trash this year even if he wasn't claimed by the Pats.
I know, but this made me really think about it again. Bennett, Beckum and Robinson. oof.

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I found this part of a giants article put a good perspective on the TE situation

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The Giants are searching for 37 receptions from their most productive tight end this season.

That number is flexible, but something in that neighborhood would be a significant boost for the offense. From 2008-2011, the Giants' top receiving tight end averaged 37 catches a season. That included highs of 42 receptions by Kevin Boss in 2010 and 38 by Jake Ballard in the 2011 championship season. Ballard yesterday was waived/failed physical, a transaction stemming from the torn anterior cruciate ligament he suffered in Super Bowl XLVI.
I think we are quite solid at TE with Bennett, Beckum, Pascoe and Robinson.
If anything we have better depth than we have had at TE in some time.

Remember the fan reaction when Shockey and then Boss left, both times we had someone step up. We will be fine.

We don't need a stud receiving TE, we need reliable production with around 37 receptions, we will be fine at TE
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I agree Pete. I just never see TE as a big priority in this offense. If Bennent is going to block like he did in Dallas and gives us 35 catches I'll be more than happy.
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i forgot about Bear!

nevermind, we're set.
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nevermind, we're set.
How could you forget about Bear?!?!? I think our run blocking will be a lot better this year if we have Bennett and Bear on the ends with guys like Snee, Boothe and Petrus in the middle. Our OTs are the only thing I am worried about.
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I thnk the bigger story that noone seems to be talking about is the signing of Bernard.

This could be because the front office is very concerned with Austin's development and ability to contribute this year in a significant way
(Reese alluded to this in an interview earlier in the year).



Sure this isn't a flashy move, but Bernard is a solid veteran who is well established in our system and has been productive.


It could also be that we want bigger guys up front, particularly if we plan to use Rivers at MLB (not unlike Fewell did in Buffalo with moving Poslunzsy to MLB).
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This could be because the front office is very concerned with Austin's development and ability to contribute this year in a significant way
(Reese alluded to this in an interview earlier in the year).



Sure this isn't a flashy move, but Bernard is a solid veteran who is well established in our system and has been productive.


It could also be that we want bigger guys up front, particularly if we plan to use Rivers at MLB (not unlike Fewell did in Buffalo with moving Poslunzsy to MLB).
Yeah we re-signed Rocky bc we're concerned about Austin. That's what this comes down to. I don't like that we lost Ballard, I liked Ballard, but we'll be ok.

Eli will find a way to make it work. Always has, always will. Someone will step up.
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eli hasn't looked good in 7 on 7's today.

over-rated.

elisha.

sux.

didn't deserve his super bowl mvps

he's no peyton!
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I've been saying for years we should get rid of that bum.
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Haha, my brother was venting to me about that yesterday he was all concerned. I'm like relax, Eli does this every offseason.

I think Eli does it on purpose honestly. I think he wants to feel out his WR core in practice and see what he can and can't get away with in practice so he knows what he can do during games. If you notice, Eli trusts certain guys a lot and really gives them opportunities to go up and get the ball, and I think he only does that with certain guys he knows can do it. The only way to know is by testing it out in practice.
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