Aldon Smith stabbed this morning...

[Ness]

Originally Posted by phlysac

The guy on the far left with his eyebrow cocked looks like he's about to have a ***** moment towards Kevin Durant.

[phlysac]

I have no problem with it. At the same time I'm not defending Aldon Smith. I just know that the media certainly do paint a picture of what type of lifestyle certain players live, and they're rarely accurate.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by phlysac

I have no problem with it. At the same time I'm not defending Aldon Smith. I just know that the media certainly do paint a picture of what type of lifestyle certain players live, and they're rarely accurate.

Of course not. Anyone who believes those pieces are just straight up idiots. Fact of the matter is, no one, not any member of the media, not the fans, and certainly no one here on this message board can accurately claim they know these people and the way they live...good or bad.



Oh my goodness Delaine Walker dropped the N-word...

[BigBanger]

When Kevin Durant gets stabbed at a party that he threw because he tried to "break up" a fight between some gun totting NWAs, then we can compare the two. Until then, let's lay off the nerdy looking, fully clothed, surrounded-by-a-bunch-of-dudes-Durant after he went to his first night club.

And lets not forget that Durant has been in the NBA, making an NBA All-star players salary, for the last 5+ years. It took Aldon one off season to make headlines for being his douchebag self.

[phlysac]

Originally Posted by BigBanger

When Kevin Durant gets stabbed at a party that he threw because he tried to "break up" a fight between some gun totting NWAs, then we can compare the two. Until then, let's lay off the nerdy looking, fully clothed, surrounded-by-a-bunch-of-dudes-Durant after he went to his first night club.

This is precisely the point. I never compared the two as people. But your opinion of Durant's nightlife-style is ill-informed. Durant hosts parties at clubs regularly. I posted a video of one, and photos of several others. "Vizionary Villainz" was made light of earlier in the thread. One of Durant's many parties was titled "Hennessy presents Xpensive Habits." It's a cultural phenomenon of money and club atmosphere. These celebrities actually make money representing brands while partying. Many, many, many successful athletes throw parties. Sadly, many NFL players also get stabbed. To assume the "type" of person someone is because of these things is terribly naive.

The only thing that can be inferred is that "better" decisions can be made.

[NotMyJob]

Originally Posted by phlysac

Sadly, many NFL players also get stabbed.

lol, really? i'm not even hating i'm just trying to remember the last one to get stabbed.

[phlysac]

Originally Posted by NotMyJob

lol, really? i'm not even hating i'm just trying to remember the last one to get stabbed.

Aldon Smith
Jason Taylor
Charles Grant
Jason Hunter
Brandon Marshall
Brandon Banks
William Green
Geno Hayes
Nick Harper
Teyo Johnson
Roderick Green

Just those I remember in the last handful of years. I'm sure there have been more.

[Bulldogs]

God damn 49er's fans I tell ya....

[vidae]

I have no idea what a 49er player could possibly do to get hated on by the 49er fans here. I don't think there is a single thing they could do.

[Borat]

Originally Posted by Bulldogs

God damn 49er's fans I tell ya....

Originally Posted by vidae

I have no idea what a 49er player could possibly do to get hated on by the 49er fans here. I don't think there is a single thing they could do.

Made me LOL.


Back on topic, Paul Pierce is a stabbing victim too.

[49ersfan_87]

Originally Posted by vidae

I have no idea what a 49er player could possibly do to get hated on by the 49er fans here. I don't think there is a single thing they could do.

Can't speak for anyone else but for me it all depends what they're hating on. Aldon spends money and gets stabbed? No hate. Aldon has a DUI and possibly is a d-bag? Hate on.

BTW, there are several 49er-centric forums with thousands of fans. This forum has like 8 regular 49er posters. Read a Kyle Williams, Alex Smith, Dashon Goldson, and maybe even Brandon Jacobs thread and you'll see what it takes for players to get hated on. I'm not allowed to link or even name those boards but my source: The internet.

[Vikes99ej]

Sorry, I have no respect for the whole get a "Lambo with huge rims and a ten room mansion" with the first paycheck thing. there has to be at least one NFL player who is playing because he actually wants to play the highest level of football and doesn't just want let his posse leach off of him and drop $50k tabs at ho-infested clubs.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by phlysac

This is precisely the point. I never compared the two as people. But your opinion of Durant's nightlife-style is ill-informed. Durant hosts parties at clubs regularly. I posted a video of one, and photos of several others. "Vizionary Villainz" was made light of earlier in the thread. One of Durant's many parties was titled "Hennessy presents Xpensive Habits." It's a cultural phenomenon of money and club atmosphere. These celebrities actually make money representing brands while partying. Many, many, many successful athletes throw parties. Sadly, many NFL players also get stabbed. To assume the "type" of person someone is because of these things is terribly naive.

The only thing that can be inferred is that "better" decisions can be made.

Stop making logical arguments. Apparently they're making 49ers fans look like homers.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by Ness

Stop making logical arguments. Apparently they're making 49ers fans look like homers.

stop knocking down strawmen, it's making you look illiterate.

[WCH]

If you throw a party and you get stabbed and two other people are shot, then you need to reexamine your life choices. You're probably doing something wrong. This shouldn't even be debatable.

[phlysac]

Originally Posted by WCH

If you throw a party and you get stabbed and two other people are shot, then you need to reexamine your life choices. You're probably doing something wrong. This shouldn't even be debatable.

Absolutely agree.

My point is that a HUGE number of athletes either throw and/or attend these parties/clubs. They do it quite regularly. They work hard, they play hard. We only ever hear about it when something unfortunate happens.

And if anyone thinks I'm a straw-man, I'd be happy to discuss it with them.

[VAfy-ya]

Originally Posted by WCH

If you throw a party and you get stabbed and two other people are shot, then you need to reexamine your life choices. You're probably doing something wrong. This shouldn't even be debatable.

Or you might want to look at the ppl your surrounding yourself with and take stock of your circle and see if they are part of the problem. Nothing wrong throwing a party. Gronk throws hella parties and is well known for it. Maybe he can teach Aldon how to throw the proper party without the bloddy aftermath. But he indeed does need to undestand whether or not it was troublemakers outside of his circle and he was just the victim of some bad luck, he's starting to get a rep now. You don't want to get that label so its best if he refrain from the parties and that need for 'nightlife', for awhile.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by phlysac

And if anyone thinks I'm a straw-man, I'd be happy to discuss it with them.

if i thought you were making a strawman, i'd have quoted you.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by phlysac

And if anyone thinks I'm a straw-man, I'd be happy to discussit with them.

Folks would eventually just use "oh 49ers fans" card or "49ers players can do no wrong" no matter how objectively you're looking at the issue.

[Bulldogs]

You guys were seriously comparing Kevin Durant to Aldon Smith. Give me a break.

[Bulldogs]

For the record, I would not care whatsoever if Aldon was partying but avoiding fights and DUIs. Young athletes party, that's their choice.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by Bulldogs

You guys were seriously comparing Kevin Durant to Aldon Smith. Give me a break.

Except that never happened. The discussion moved to Kevin Durant after he was, for some reason, brought up. phlysac even said that he wasn't comparing the two people. A person brought up Kevin Durant saying something along the lines of staying out of the spotlight and basketball 24/7 and whatever fluff piece that is published in the papers and phlysac exposed the fallacy in their statements. Young high profile athletes attend parties or hold them. They spend money and ball out. That was the point. No one was making a direct connection between Aldon Smith and Kevin Durant. That's a vision you created son.

Originally Posted by njx9

stop knocking down strawmen, it's making you look illiterate.

Yeah, maybe I should stop cleaning up the messes around here. I knew I liked you.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by Ness

Yeah, maybe I should stop cleaning up the messes around here. I knew I liked you.

the mess? where one person made an unrelated comment that you decided to tie back into this bizarre meme of the poor, down-trodden 49ers fans? that's... er... cute. the 'woe is me' card is pathetic, and you should be ashamed of yourself for playing it.

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by njx9

stop knocking down strawmen, it's making you look illiterate.

It's not a strawman, I totally think that some of the 9ers fans on here are homers because of the logical arguments they make...

[Ness]

Originally Posted by njx9

the mess? where one person made an unrelated comment that you decided to tie back into this bizarre meme of the poor, down-trodden 49ers fans? that's... er... cute. the 'woe is me' card is pathetic, and you should be ashamed of yourself for playing it.

My goodness your reading comprehension is awful. I've already explained why certain information was misconstrued and certain comparisons that were thought to be made in the first place weren't even made initially. Actually phlysac explained it better than I did. Maybe you should be ashamded for running in circles on something that isn't so complex to understand. Keep believing what you though brah.