Aldon Smith stabbed this morning...

[Ness]

Originally Posted by Rosebud

It's not a strawman, I totally think that some of the 9ers fans on here are homers because of the logical arguments they make...

At least you're honest about it. Don't quit your day job player.

[Bulldogs]

Not every thread should have to turn into everyone vs. 49ers fans. I just wish they'd get the hint.

[tjsunstein]

Originally Posted by Bulldogs

Not every thread should have to turn into everyone vs. 49ers fans. I just wish they'd get the hint.

Says a Falcons fan...

Anyway, why does James Harden hate hats that fit?

[Bulldogs]

Originally Posted by tjsunstein

Says a Falcons fan...

Anyway, why does James Harden hate hats that fit?

Of the top of my head I can't think of a thread where it turned into Falcons fans vs. all recently.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by WCH

If you throw a party and you get stabbed and two other people are shot, then you need to reexamine your life choices. You're probably doing something wrong. This shouldn't even be debatable.

Completely agree.

[phlysac]

Originally Posted by Bulldogs

Not every thread should have to turn into everyone vs. 49ers fans. I just wish they'd get the hint.

This thread is about a 49ers player, correct? Few of the posts in here targeted any fans until you made your comment. It appears as if you were the one that started to storm. It wasn't 49ers fans defending Aldon Smith, comparing him to Durant. You made your comment, the ish hit the fan. Thank you for your understanding of the timetable. Appreciate it.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by phlysac

This thread is about a 49ers player, correct? Few of the posts in here targeted any fans until you made your comment. It appears as if you were the one that started to storm. It wasn't 49ers fans defending Aldon Smith, comparing him to Durant. You made your comment, the ish hit the fan. Thank you for your understanding of the timetable. Appreciate it.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by Ness

My goodness your reading comprehension is awful.

he says, without the faintest trace of irony.

I've already explained why certain information was misconstrued and certain comparisons that were thought to be made in the first place weren't even made initially. Actually phlysac explained it better than I did. Maybe you should be ashamded for running in circles on something that isn't so complex to understand. Keep believing what you though brah.

what circles am i running in, 'brah'? the parts of the thread i haven't participated in? weren't you *just* talking about reading comprehension? i called you out on a strawman and for whining in nearly every post. there's a reason i haven't called phlysac out on anything he's posted.

[49ersfan_87]

Originally Posted by Bulldogs

God damn 49er's fans I tell ya....

Originally Posted by Bulldogs

Not every thread should have to turn into everyone vs. 49ers fans. I just wish they'd get the hint.

7/10 troll job, would read again.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by njx9

he says, without the faintest trace of irony.



what circles am i running in, 'brah'? the parts of the thread i haven't participated in? weren't you *just* talking about reading comprehension? i called you out on a strawman and for whining in nearly every post. there's a reason i haven't called phlysac out on anything he's posted.

No the parts that you are having trouble understanding LOL. Yes you would be correct I was talking about your bad reading comprehension. All I did was support phlysac's points. Feel free to you know, actually point out what was strawman to you based on what I said (or what I you believed I was whining about in every post) instead of making a joke of a wisecrack as per usual. Can't wait for this response. Really, I'm on the edge of my seat...

[whatadai]

Originally Posted by tjsunstein

Says a Falcons fan...

Says a Packers fan...

[njx9]

Originally Posted by Ness

No the parts that you are having trouble understanding LOL. Yes you would be correct I was talking about your bad reading comprehension. All I did was support phlysac's points. Feel free to you know, actually point out what was strawman to you based on what I said (or what I you believed I was whining about in every post) instead of making a joke of a wisecrack as per usual. Can't wait for this response. Really, I'm on the edge of my seat...

again you talk about poor reading comprehension when you're not actually capable of reading the single sentence i quoted in my first post in this thread. "Stop making logical arguments. Apparently they're making 49ers fans look like homers." that's a strawman. no one was suggesting you were a homer because phlysac was making 'logical arguments', but you decided to torpedo the discussion by making up the position everyone else was taking, and arguing 'successfully' against it. further, you decided to torpedo it in the most pathetic way humanly possible, by playing at oppression ("Apparently they're making 49ers fans look like homers", on the off chance you're yet again incapable of locating your own post and would rather whine about how you never said posted anything except perfect arguments in phlysac's defense).

in the future, google works exceptionally well when you don't actually know what the words i'm using mean.

oh, right, in before another accusation that i can't read. no really, you're totally making that one work. if you just keep repeating it, someone, somewhere might actually believe it.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by njx9

again you talk about poor reading comprehension when you're not actually capable of reading the single sentence i quoted in my first post in this thread. "Stop making logical arguments. Apparently they're making 49ers fans look like homers." that's a strawman. no one was suggesting you were a homer because phlysac was making 'logical arguments', but you decided to torpedo the discussion by making up the position everyone else was taking, and arguing 'successfully' against it. further, you decided to torpedo it in the most pathetic way humanly possible, by playing at oppression ("Apparently they're making 49ers fans look like homers", on the off chance you're yet again incapable of locating your own post and would rather whine about how you never said posted anything except perfect arguments in phlysac's defense).
I
in the future, google works exceptionally well when you don't actually know what the words i'm using mean.

oh, right, in before another accusation that i can't read. no really, you're totally making that one work. if you just keep repeating it, someone, somewhere might actually believe it.

Post fail. Sorry you actually believe that was a strawman. Phlysac even queationed what you were implying with that very post. Maybe your sentence wasn't constructed well in the first place. My quote was directed towards a specfic post in not only this thread, but a couple others where 49ers fans have gotten into a tussle over certain issues resulting in the believe that there is a ridiculous bias for fans of the franchise. But right, running with a sacaristic remark based on what has been implied in this and other threads equals playing the victim card via strawman. I really feel ashamed. Your moral compass is really too overbearing for me. Stop it. No really stop. Sorry you were late to the party.

[Shane P. Hallam]

[Ness]

That about sums it up.

[njx9]

Originally Posted by Ness

Post fail. Sorry you actually believe that was a strawman.

i'm sorry that you still don't have any vague understanding of what that means. again, in the future, google's a great tool.

Phlysac even queationed what you were implying with that very post.

well that sure proves you're right.

Maybe your sentence wasn't constructed well in the first place.

weren't you the one whining about reading comprehension? it's really not that difficult. perhaps if you'd actually read it, instead of asking me to point it out for you several times.

My quote was directed towards a specfic post in not only this thread, but a couple others where 49ers fans have gotten into a tussle over certain issues resulting in the believe that there is a ridiculous bias for fans of the franchise.

cool story; it was still a strawman and it was still a stupid, whiny comment.

But right, running with a sacaristic remark based on what has been implied in this and other threads equals playing the victim card via strawman.

you really shouldn't use words when you don't understand what they mean.

I really feel ashamed. Your moral compass is really too overbearing for me. Stop it. No really stop. Sorry you were late to the party.

so playing the victim again? cute. keep up the persecution complex.

[Ness]

Oh boy the sniping technique/taking things out of context. Wow njx9 you sure showed me. LOL I'll let you have this one, although I don't believe you actually believe what you're saying.

[BigBanger]

Originally Posted by phlysac

Aldon Smith
Jason Taylor
Charles Grant
Jason Hunter
Brandon Marshall
Brandon Banks
William Green
Geno Hayes
Nick Harper
Teyo Johnson
Roderick Green

Just those I remember in the last handful of years. I'm sure there have been more.

Aside from the remark you replied to, this is a weak list. Not in anyway similar to Aldon Smith. Charles Grant and Brandon Banks are only even remotely similar cases. Stabings of this nature, and people getting shot is not common among NFL players. That's more to the topic at hand.

Jason Taylor? Really? A legit victim who just so happened to be an NFL player? Taylor should not be grouped with the likes of Charles Grant and Aldon Smith. I understand that you want to somehow validate this incident, but if you're going to mention stabings, then you should probably make a list that is similar in nature to Smiths case. Charles Grant is the ONLY case that you mentioned that's similar.

Most of those stabings are domestic related incidents. A lot different than what happened here.

Originally Posted by phlysac

This is precisely the point. I never compared the two as people. But your opinion of Durant's nightlife-style is ill-informed. Durant hosts parties at clubs regularly. I posted a video of one, and photos of several "Vizionary Villainz" was made light of earlier in the thread. One of Durant's many parties was titled "Hennessy presents Xpensive Habits." It's a cultural phenomenon of money and club atmosphere. These celebrities actually make money representing brands while partying. Many, many, many successful athletes throw parties. Sadly, many NFL players also get stabbed. To assume the "type" of person someone is because of these things is terribly naive.

The only thing that can be inferred is that "better" decisions can be made.

You took my comment too literally. It's a joke that Durant has been brought up. My opinion on Durants life style is not ill informed. I don't party with him or play hide the pickle with him. Clearly you do since you know everything about these players lives.

Being naive isnt really my issue. Have you ever met a smartass? I'll give you time to google the **** out of "smartass" and tell me everything there is to know about smartasses. Maybe you can generate a list of notorious smartasses. I'll give a name search to help facilitate your listology: Rodney Dangerfield.

[phlysac]

Originally Posted by BigBanger

Aside from the remark you replied to, this is a weak list. Not in anyway similar to Aldon Smith. Charles Grant and Brandon Banks are only even remotely similar cases. Stabings of this nature, and people getting shot is not common among NFL players. That's more to the topic at hand.

Jason Taylor? Really? A legit victim who just so happened to be an NFL player? Taylor should not be grouped with the likes of Charles Grant and Aldon Smith. I understand that you want to somehow validate this incident, but if you're going to mention stabings, then you should probably make a list that is similar in nature to Smiths case. Charles Grant is the ONLY case that you mentioned that's similar.

Most of those stabings are domestic related incidents. A lot different than what happened here.



You took my comment too literally. It's a joke that Durant has been brought up. My opinion on Durants life style is not ill informed. I don't party with him or play hide the pickle with him. Clearly you do since you know everything about these players lives.

Being naive isnt really my issue. Have you ever met a smartass? I'll give you time to google the **** out of "smartass" and tell me everything there is to know about smartasses. Maybe you can generate a list of notorious smartasses. I'll give a name search to help facilitate your listology: Rodney Dangerfield.

I actually only listed players who'd been stabbed. Any other correlation was done by you.

Took your comment literally? Sorry, I'm a fan of having accountability for the words a person uses. Why would one speak figuratively just to argue?

Because you're a smartass? Congratulations. I'm glad you find enjoyment in picking arguments on an internet message board simply because you are one. Well played.

"Hide the pickle?" Really? Yeah, I have no need to continue in banter with such obvious childishness.

You won. You're a bigger smartass than me, and I'm far too literal. I'll go cry now.

[bigbluedefense]

For the love of God man.

Why is this constantly happening?

[BigBanger]

Originally Posted by phlysac

I actually only listed players who'd been stabbed. Any other correlation was done by you.

Took your comment literally? Sorry, I'm a fan of having accountability for the words a person uses. Why would one speak figuratively just to argue?

Because you're a smartass? Congratulations. I'm glad you find enjoyment in picking arguments on an internet message board simply because you are one. Well played.

"Hide the pickle?" Really? Yeah, I have no need to continue in banter with such obvious childishness.

You won. You're a bigger smartass than me, and I'm far too literal. I'll go cry now.

You are doing the correlating. You are replying in a topic where an NFL player was stabbed at party, and where people were also shot. Shot with real guns and real bullets. Any type of response is going to be affiliated with this story. Some will be off topic, poorly thought out ideas and others will be on topic, accurately or poorly thought out ideas on this subject matter.

Somehow you felt the need to post pics and links to Kevin Durant drinking and hosting party's. You felt the need to make him comparable to Aldon Smith. Saying you weren't comparing the two is a joke. Durant being brought up was not necessary (poorly thought out). You furthering the Durant discussion and attempting to paint him in a negative light was even worse (vastly off topic in an attempt to shift the discussion from the DBag to Durant). This is how it sounds: "Kevin Durant parties too!!! He gets ****** up, spends money and parties like Aldon Smith does!!! Don't believe the fluff pieces that he plays video games with kids!!!!! They're not true!!!!"

This is why I took exception to your posts and made a comment about Durant being a nerd, and advising that the two should not be compared until Durant throws a party where his posse is shooting people. It's why others said the two should not be compared. You compared them. You showed videos and posted pictures. You did that. No one else did.

Then you made another poor attempt of validating Smith by saying a great number of NFL players get stabbed. You listed a bunch of players, mostly who were stabbed by their own wives / girlfriends, in an attempt to paint NFL players as targets when they party. Again, this is a direct correlation done by you. What is the need for Jason Taylor to be brought up in a thread about Aldon Smith getting stabbed at a party he threw where people were also shot? Talking out the other side of your mouth and saying, "Well, I'm not comparing them but these guys got stabbed too." It's ********. None of them need to be mentioned. It is besides the point, completely off topic and an utter waste of time. It makes you sound like a homer.

[phlysac]

Originally Posted by BigBanger

You are doing the correlating. You are replying in a topic where an NFL player was stabbed at party, and where people were also shot. Shot with real guns and real bullets. Any type of response is going to be affiliated with this story. Some will be off topic, poorly thought out ideas and others will be on topic, accurately or poorly thought out ideas on this subject matter.

Somehow you felt the need to post pics and links to Kevin Durant drinking and hosting party's. You felt the need to make him comparable to Aldon Smith. Saying you weren't comparing the two is a joke. Durant being brought up was not necessary (poorly thought out). You furthering the Durant discussion and attempting to paint him in a negative light was even worse (vastly off topic in an attempt to shift the discussion from the DBag to Durant). This is how it sounds: "Kevin Durant parties too!!! He gets ****** up, spends money and parties like Aldon Smith does!!! Don't believe the fluff pieces that he plays video games with kids!!!!! They're not true!!!!"

This is why I took exception to your posts and made a comment about Durant being a nerd, and advising that the two should not be compared until Durant throws a party where his posse is shooting people. It's why others said the two should not be compared. You compared them. You showed videos and posted pictures. You did that. No one else did.

Then you made another poor attempt of validating Smith by saying a great number of NFL players get stabbed. You listed a bunch of players, mostly who were stabbed by their own wives / girlfriends, in an attempt to paint NFL players as targets when they party. Again, this is a direct correlation done by you. What is the need for Jason Taylor to be brought up in a thread about Aldon Smith getting stabbed at a party he threw where people were also shot? Talking out the other side of your mouth and saying, "Well, I'm not comparing them but these guys got stabbed too." It's ********. None of them need to be mentioned. It is besides the point, completely off topic and an utter waste of time. It makes you sound like a homer.

Is there a link that shows that any member of Aldon Smith's "posse" were the one's committing violent acts? If there is, I am interested, and Smith accountability becomes much more significant.

A comment was made that Durant is "basketball 24/7" - FALSE, I proved that.

I said "sadly many NFL players get stabbed" - TRUE, I proved that.

I didn't make correlations. I type precisely what I mean. I make "literal" representations. Any figurative correlations, assumptions of a person's character, categorization of a team's fan-base, etc, was done by others.

If you would like to find any where in this thread that I...

A) Defended Aldon Smith's behavior as being anything other than a poor decision.
B) Bashed Kevin Durant for anything he has ever done.
C) Bashed another team's fanbase.

[Ness]

He wasn't comparing Durant to Smith. The conversation shifted when someone randomly starting talking about Kevin Durant and the lifestyle he leads, as in he only focuses on basketball all the time. phlysac proved that wasn't the case. Pointing that out isn't making a comparison between the two people.

[brat316]

What a dummy. Maybe now he'll keep body guards around, when he goes to parties.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

What a dummy. Maybe now he'll keep body guards around, when he goes to parties.

Smith did the right thing in trying to stop a fight at his own house. I'm just glad he didn't get shot. What he need to do in the future is think about hiring some security at his own house if he's going to have a party. Even a doorman or two would make sure a couple of people with guns don't get in.