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Old 07-04-2012, 09:57 PM    (permalink
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EIther way they're pretty good for some teams, absolutely atrocious for others, Avs and Sharks come to mind as teams they don't even have anyone covering.
Take everything HF says with a large grain of salt. The guys who write there are homers. That and they usually update once or twice a season.

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Hey, did you guys hear the Wild signed some guys named Parise and Suter today?
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Wings are going to be mediocre. Time to sign Semin and Doan though.
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Wings are going to be mediocre. Time to sign Semin and Doan though.
Sadly, that won't help the defense. Perhaps Jimmy Howard can morph into Jonathan Quick, haha

In all honesty, the Kings' defense isn't stocked with players we widely consider to be great defenders and they limit goals pretty damn well. If Babcock can adjust the system the Wings run, they can probably survive until another top pairing guy becomes available somehow.

I expect Holland can find a team with a spare defenseman to swap for one of our spare forwards. I'm thinking Drew Miller would be a player another team would find use for in such a scenario.
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I'll unite the Miller brothers in exchange for Adam Pardy. I really don't think you get much of a dman for Drew.
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:15 AM    (permalink
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I'll unite the Miller brothers in exchange for Adam Pardy. I really don't think you get much of a dman for Drew.
I wasn't suggesting they'd get anything more than a No. 6 defenseman for him. Just saying there's bound to be a team with a spare defenseman under contract that could be swapped for an extra forward. The Wings have to alleviate their logjam up front, especially if they intend to sign Semin or Doan.

Miller is signed for under 1 million and had like 15 goals and 30 points last year. He's useful, if unspectacular.
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Miller is a fine bottom-6 piece. I would gladly take him. We might not need it, though.
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can i be bitter because i lost my favorite player and zach is sexy and now our offense is even worse.

WHY DO ALL MY FAVORITE PLAYERS LEAVE VIA FREE AGENCY???

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THEY ALL LEAVE ME AND NOW PARISE.
All of my favorites as well.

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He hasn't been amazing, but Erik Johnson's 15/4 contract was less than I expected. Not too bad. Their payroll looks like it won't be so high, with O'Reilly left to sign.
EJ's pretty amazing defensively, and few people are as unstoppable at rushing the puck up ice as a pissed off EJ, unfortunately he's too nice to get pissed off often.
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I hope I can make it to development camp next week. Hodgson, Foligno, Armia, Grigorenko, Girgensons, Adam, Tropp, Catenacci, Varone, Pysyk, McNabb, McCabe, JGL, ...
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Not sure if any of you rock hats frequently, but I have been starved for a decent Wild hat for years and finally found a winner on this site: http://www.ecapcity.com/new-era-fitt...-era-hats.html
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I wonder if the Pens go after Semin. I don't think I'd like it too much, but his goal scoring ability isn't matched by many. I just don't like his attitude nor the comments he made about Sid. He'll probably ask for a lot as well.
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I wonder if the Pens go after Semin. I don't think I'd like it too much, but his goal scoring ability isn't matched by many. I just don't like his attitude nor the comments he made about Sid. He'll probably ask for a lot as well.
People seriously want Semin on their team? I know you automatically want the best FA on your team, but I don't see him having any chemistry on that club. His ass just needs to take his show to the KHL
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I never said I wanted him on the team. If the Pens sign him though, I trust that Shero did his homework and did a lot of research on it. Maybe Ovie was the one rubbing bad off Semin. Who knows?

If it was like a 2 year deal for close to 5 million, I think I would do it.
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David Perron signed a 4-year deal worth 15.25 million to remain a Blue!
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Love the Tom Renney hire as a Wings assistant coach.

I was really ticked last year when they hired two nobodies without NHL coaching experience. Our special teams were the worst they've been in 20 years last season.
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Sabres signed Kevin Porter. I imagine a lot of AHL time for him, but we could see some spells of Porter and Gerbe on a low line, for anybody who enjoyed NCAA hockey from 2007-2008.
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I saw that the Leafs are going to try JVR at center. Why?
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Watching game1 of the Flyers-Pensseries all over again. I forget the ending, but its been enjoyable so far. I cant imagine theyd be replaying it if it werent epic. Its 3-1 Pens with 12 mins left and Im forcing myself not to look at thisbox score. Tons of embellishment by Pitt so far and Carle is sucking ass.
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As a Blue Jackets fan (we do, in fact, exist), I hope the teams that fell short in the Zach Parise sweepstakes spark a bidding war and the acquisition cost for Nash’s size and skill escalates. A package of an NHL forward, a promising prospect, and a pick or two would be enough to entice me. While I wouldn’t mind netting some of the hauls that Columbus is seeking, I’m also not as delusional as Howson. It’ll be a pleasant surprise if a team surrenders even a pair of blue-chippers in return for Nash. Like I said, the Blue Jackets’ best hope is that two or more teams panic once the goal-scorer market dries up and then those competing clubs drive the price up. Given Howson’s insistence on the inclusion of absolute non-starters though, I’m not sure he can keep a team on the line long enough to even make progress on a deal.

However, if Nash can fetch Columbus another roster piece, a second-tier prospect to develop into something, and either a first-rounder or a pair of other picks, I won’t feel too down on the future. The team addressed its organizational goaltender depth issue and seems to have a solid pipeline of defensemen to choose from to fill their backend for now. There’s not much to get excited about in terms of offensive potential though. Johansen has the talent to shoulder some of that burden, and Prospal has been a wonderful veteran presence, but the top six is desperate for an infusion of serious skill. Both down the middle and on the wings.

So Columbus isn’t too far gone for an eventual turnaround, right?

…Right?
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So Columbus isn’t too far gone for an eventual turnaround, right?

…Right?
Ummmm ... no comment.
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As a Blue Jackets fan (we do, in fact, exist), I hope the teams that fell short in the Zach Parise sweepstakes spark a bidding war and the acquisition cost for Nash’s size and skill escalates. A package of an NHL forward, a promising prospect, and a pick or two would be enough to entice me. While I wouldn’t mind netting some of the hauls that Columbus is seeking, I’m also not as delusional as Howson. It’ll be a pleasant surprise if a team surrenders even a pair of blue-chippers in return for Nash. Like I said, the Blue Jackets’ best hope is that two or more teams panic once the goal-scorer market dries up and then those competing clubs drive the price up. Given Howson’s insistence on the inclusion of absolute non-starters though, I’m not sure he can keep a team on the line long enough to even make progress on a deal.

However, if Nash can fetch Columbus another roster piece, a second-tier prospect to develop into something, and either a first-rounder or a pair of other picks, I won’t feel too down on the future. The team addressed its organizational goaltender depth issue and seems to have a solid pipeline of defensemen to choose from to fill their backend for now. There’s not much to get excited about in terms of offensive potential though. Johansen has the talent to shoulder some of that burden, and Prospal has been a wonderful veteran presence, but the top six is desperate for an infusion of serious skill. Both down the middle and on the wings.

So Columbus isn’t too far gone for an eventual turnaround, right?

…Right?
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Not sure how quickly I can see Columbus turning it around. Dansk should be a good prospect for future, but Bobrovsky and Mason in net is uninspiring. You have an intriguing defense, for sure. Forwards are tough to comment on, especially with all this in limbo. Nash trade needs to get done, period. I like Johansen a lot as a prospect, but every one of your forwards can seemingly be described by "well, he could be an alright 2nd-liner." Not good.
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Not sure how quickly I can see Columbus turning it around. Dansk should be a good prospect for future, but Bobrovsky and Mason in net is uninspiring. You have an intriguing defense, for sure. Forwards are tough to comment on, especially with all this in limbo. Nash trade needs to get done, period. I like Johansen a lot as a prospect, but every one of your forwards can seemingly be described by "well, he could be an alright 2nd-liner." Not good.
Realistically, I know this isn’t a short-term project. It’s going to be another extensive rebuild. Especially since the Jackets play in a division where points are hard to come by. Bobrovsky seems to be plagued by some of the same inconsistencies that have haunted Mason. Although, I’m inclined to believe that Mason is damaged beyond Columbus’ repair. He needs a change of scenery in the worst way. Basically, my hope for the Jackets’ future between the pipes rests with Dansk and Korpisalo.

With regards to that forward group, they have a bunch of interchangeable pieces (both in the NHL and in the minor circuits) that ultimately project as bottom six players. Outside of Johansen, the system is completely barren of gifted creators and scorers. At this point, Nash absolutely needs to be flipped for the best young assets he can get, preferably for contributors up front. Honestly, this team probably needs to make over at least two-thirds of its top six, and it’s hard to expedite the timeline on that kind of undertaking.

But, we do have JMFJ, so there’s that to be a little thankful for.
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