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Old 07-11-2012, 10:25 PM    (permalink
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It was okay, but the one they made a decade ago was better. If they were gonna reboot it they should've made it worth while (like Batman Begins), or had it so it could plug into the Avengers movies...But no Sony owns it so it can't plug into the Avengers, and they just did it to make money b/c of the brand name that Spider-Man is.
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Enjoy pretentious movies?
Eh, I suppose.

I'm not sure how often one might describe Element of Crime, Europa, The Kingdom, Dancer in the Dark, and Dogville as pretentious.

Breaking Waves, The Idiots, and Antichrist, perhaps, but they're still all tremendously directed films.

It'd be tough to consider David Lynch any less pretentious than von Trier.


I do, without question, truly enjoy highly experimental, artistic films that provoke thought. If that becomes labeled pretentious, then so be it and I'm guilty as charged.
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Dogville isn't pretentious? Come on.
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Meh... I really dislike the Coens, No Country for Old Men is certainly the movie that I most wanted my time back after watching it, I honestly don't think it had a single redeeming feature. I wont say it was the worst movie ever but it was certainly the single worst viewing of my life because it was apparently great.

I've accepted that I apparently didn't get it and that on some hardcore artsy level it probably has some symbolism that makes it great or something but for me it was a bunch of truly unlikeable characters following an insanely predictable outcome without showing any development and then not even having an ending whilst going forever. Basically it was 2 hours of nothing but watching boots walk on ground and crap like that!

As I said though I just don't get what was good about it and obviously went in with high expectations given that it was award winning and generally heralded. It does have the honour of being one of the very few movies that I genuinely disliked.

Every other Coen movie I've seen has fallen somewhere between average and slightly above average but NCFOM was awful!

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Yeah, this whole time I thought No Country was awesome just to find it actually sucks... Thanks for clearing that up for me Wog.
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Dogville isn't pretentious? Come on.
I won't argue your opinion. I don't agree that it is a "self-important" film. At least not any more self-important than many films listed in the last several posts.


von Trier utilizes many techniques that are far from the "Hollywood" norm. I view it as highly artistic. Most media done in an overtly artistic fashion tends to be labeled pretentious, and I'm fine with that.


But, like I said, I can't really argue your opinion. Inland Empire is one of the more "pretentious" movies I've ever viewed, and I absolutely loved it. So, you might be right, but I don't have a preconceived "formula" for what I like.
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No Country for Old Men is one of my favorite movies ever, so I just can't agree with you.

But then they came out with A Serious Man and I probably felt the same way you did about NCFOM. That one just could not get me interested, at all.
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NCFOM, True Grit, Big Lebowski....how are they not good?
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NCFOM, True Grit, Big Lebowski....how are they not good?
Not to mention O' Brother Where Art Thou, Fargo, Barton Fink, Miller's Crossing, and Raising Arizona.
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Nobody mentioning Blood Simple yet is upsetting.
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Not to mention Raising Arizona and Fargo but I suppose those are terrible films as well.

BTW, I just realized Aaron Paul is in Van Wilder.

EDIT: Well that escalated quickly.
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Wogtalia can't be a real person...
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more like wogFAILia amirite?
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I actually just realized I never saw True Grit. But all of the other Coen movies mentioned on this page are indeed very good.

Other good directors: Edgar Wright, Rian Johnson, Tom McCarthy, Ben Affleck, Spike Jonze
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Other good directors: Edgar Wright, Rian Johnson, Tom McCarthy, Ben Affleck, Spike Jonze
One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong!
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He certainly does. The Fountain is so incredibly underrated. Such a brilliant film.
I love the Fountain but it lands firmly behind Pi and Requiem for me. On par with the Wrestler...and I still haven't seen Black Swan.

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Aronofsky's my favorite and I love Miike, but von Trier is awful. He's like modern art in movie form.
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He has his comfort spots and maybe just a tad of favor in casting leads, but it has yet to hurt him (awaiting how he does with Argo). His direction has been quite good, in my mind.
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Ben Affleck is a good director.

another one that I don't think has been mentioned yet is Sam Mendes and Chan-wook Park.
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Good call on Mendes. I usually don't get excited for Bond movies, but there are so many good pieces involved with the next one.
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go watch True Grit now!
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I havent seen True Grit either, I don't doubt that it's an awesome film, just doesn't look interesting to me.But I'll probably watch it at some point in the near future.
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Meh... I really dislike the Coens, No Country for Old Men is certainly the movie that I most wanted my time back after watching it, I honestly don't think it had a single redeeming feature. I wont say it was the worst movie ever but it was certainly the single worst viewing of my life because it was apparently great.

I've accepted that I apparently didn't get it and that on some hardcore artsy level it probably has some symbolism that makes it great or something but for me it was a bunch of truly unlikeable characters following an insanely predictable outcome without showing any development and then not even having an ending whilst going forever. Basically it was 2 hours of nothing but watching boots walk on ground and crap like that!

As I said though I just don't get what was good about it and obviously went in with high expectations given that it was award winning and generally heralded. It does have the honour of being one of the very few movies that I genuinely disliked.

Every other Coen movie I've seen has fallen somewhere between average and slightly above average but NCFOM was awful!

Fincher, Scorcese and Nolan would be my current favourites. Spielberg's movies that he directs are generally very good, he just sells his name to a boatload of awful movies so it's hard to filter through the crap and find which are actually Spielberg movies and which ones he just sold his name to.
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Ben Affleck is an awesome director.

Don't think anyone's mentioned Guy Ritchie yet either. From a pure entertainment point of view he's easily one of my favourites.
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The Best Living director is also the Best of all Time: Tommy Wiseau
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The Best Living director is also the Best of all Time: Tommy Wiseau
Better than Ed Wood?
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