San Francisco 49ers Discussion - Page 504

VAfy-ya · 07-15-2012, 05:35 PM

I belong to a Packers forum and I was reading through a bunch of their threads involving the schedule and predicting their record. And most of the posters are predicting 14-2 or 13-3. And they dont give us much of a chance on opening day. Most are more worried about the quick turnaround to face the Bears the next week. Almost like they feel, 'hey, its just the same old Niners with their second rate QB and a pretty good defense but we have Rodgers so no problem at all'. They sound EXCATLY like Saints fans, before our playoff game. ****, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SEASON TO START ALREADY!!! I can't recall ever being this anxious for a season to get under way.

Ness · 07-15-2012, 09:58 PM

I just hope we don't start 0-2. The last decade or so of letdowns still lingers with me. I can already see us getting blown out by Green Bay and then losing to the Lions on a last second touchdown to Calvin Johnson or some ******** like that. Hopefully we start 2-0 though. I love how the 49ers made all the talking heads look like morons last season practically every week.

49ersfan_87 · 07-15-2012, 11:46 PM

I don't think we'll get blown out or anything. That's a sign of poor coaching/preparation and that won't happen under Harbaugh.

But i'm still worried about the Packers. If any team can decimate our secondary thats them. And we've only beaten them once in the last 20 years so its hard just to visualize or imagine it. But we have less than 2 months to the opener, i can't wait.

Brent · 07-16-2012, 11:18 AM

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I just hope we don't start 0-2. The last decade or so of letdowns still lingers with me. I can already see us getting blown out by Green Bay and then losing to the Lions on a last second touchdown to Calvin Johnson or some ******** like that.

I'm just as bad about this line of thinking, too.

YAYareaRB · 07-16-2012, 11:23 AM

i was talking to a friend that plays for the jets. he told me their whole defense is excited to "shut down" vernon davis.. especially bart scott. CANT WAIT

VAfy-ya · 07-16-2012, 02:39 PM

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i was talking to a friend that plays for the jets. he told me their whole defense is excited to "shut down" vernon davis.. especially bart scott. CANT WAIT

Bart Scott couldn't cover VD even if he had a clone to help him. Pure comdey. They better hope Landry is healthy or the put Revis on him, ha. But Jimbaugh/Roman's offense versus Rex Ryan's defense will be a fun chess match to watch.

YAYareaRB · 07-16-2012, 05:42 PM

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Bart Scott couldn't cover VD even if he had a clone to help him. Pure comdey. They better hope Landry is healthy or the put Revis on him, ha. But Jimbaugh/Roman's offense versus Rex Ryan's defense will be a fun chess match to watch.

yeah. i think VD is really gonna show out to be the X-factor he was drafted to be, this upcoming season. hes had some solid years with us but i think this one is the one that's gonna define him as a player.."un-guardable" for lack of a better term.

Ness · 07-16-2012, 05:57 PM

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yeah. i think VD is really gonna show out to be the X-factor he was drafted to be, this upcoming season. hes had some solid years with us but i think this one is the one that's gonna define him as a player.."un-guardable" for lack of a better term.

If the offensive line can protect better than last season and Alex throws the ball better, Vernon will have a good year. Should be interesting.

YAYareaRB · 07-17-2012, 10:43 AM

interesting side note. me and my bro were talking to will tukuafu a few days ago out here in utah. said he has been taking reps at fullback and will be the reserve behind bruce miller. 6'4" 294 lbs 2nd string fullback. we'll probably see him in the goal line role like sopoaga but he assured us that he was repping in all formations. crazy

phlysac · 07-17-2012, 11:09 AM

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interesting side note. me and my bro were talking to will tukuafu a few days ago out here in utah. said he has been taking reps at fullback and will be the reserve behind bruce miller. 6'4" 294 lbs 2nd string fullback. we'll probably see him in the goal line role like sopoaga but he assured us that he was repping in all formations. crazy

Yeah. Will Tukuafu likely to be backup FB and DeMarcus Dobbs might be the 3rd/4th TE.

YAYareaRB · 07-17-2012, 04:00 PM

this guy needs to be in a niners jersey next season

dan77733 · 07-17-2012, 05:45 PM

I agree yayarearb.

Guy has good feet and instincts but the best thing is his ability to strip the ball and make plays. I wouldnt argue with him being a 49er in 2013. :)

VAfy-ya · 07-17-2012, 08:37 PM

Meh, Im not sure where you play him though. He needs to go to the right scheme. He isnt a cover CB but Im not sure how effective he will be in space at the next level so Im not sold on him at safety, even though I think safety would be his best position. Hell of a talent though.

As far as Tukuafu and Dobbs. I think Jimbaugh has desinated them as his 2-way guys on defense. I LOVE the move. I was a little weary of seeing our starting NT and All-Pro DE in on offense when they should be on the bench conserving energy. Now with two young back-up players, its much less risk and gets guys who wouldnt otherwise see the field some actual snaps other than STs. Also means you only have to carry two TEs and one FB. Jimbaugh milking the 53 for all its worth. I used to think why coaches didnt do more of this. These guys are just sitting on the sidelines every Sunday, not really seeing any action. Find a productive way to get some use out of them instead of them just standing on the sidelines.

Ness · 07-17-2012, 08:49 PM

I want Dobbs to see more time on the defensive line.

VAfy-ya · 07-18-2012, 12:32 PM

Dobbs time will come on defense. But its the Ray Mac and Cowboy show for now and I want us to get every snap out of those two we can.

phlysac · 07-18-2012, 09:57 PM

Mathieu? 5'9" 175lbs???

He'd certainly be an exception.

YAYareaRB · 07-20-2012, 01:06 AM

i'm not talkin 1st round. i'd actually be shocked if someone took him in the first round. but, i'd love him in the 2nd round (though he might move up with another great season).

VAfy-ya · 07-20-2012, 04:44 PM

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Mathieu? 5'9" 175lbs???

He'd certainly be an exception.

He's going have to bulk up but i see a FS when I watch him. I dont think he cuts it as a CB in the NFL unless he's in a scheme that suits him. Not alot press, lets him play alot of off-man, which allows him to close on the ball and keep the play in front of him. Lots zone and combo coverage because he has great instincts and above average spacial awareness. But I havent really watched him closely yet to draw a firm conclusion but I will be paying close attention this year, as he is draft eligible.

phlysac · 07-20-2012, 06:53 PM

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He's going have to bulk up but i see a FS when I watch him. I dont think he cuts it as a CB in the NFL unless he's in a scheme that suits him. Not alot press, lets him play alot of off-man, which allows him to close on the ball and keep the play in front of him. Lots zone and combo coverage because he has great instincts and above average spacial awareness. But I havent really watched him closely yet to draw a firm conclusion but I will be paying close attention this year, as he is draft eligible.

Yeah, he'd have to gain 30lbs for him to be the same size as "super-small" safeties Bob Sanders and Earl Thomas.

VAfy-ya · 07-21-2012, 12:22 PM

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Yeah, he'd have to gain 30lbs for him to be the same size as "super-small" safeties Bob Sanders and Earl Thomas.

I wouldnt say thirty. He could play FS at around 195-200 lbs. Jim Lenhard did for years. Besides, I dont think he's 175 lbs. I think he's close to 190.

49ersfan_87 · 07-22-2012, 12:53 AM

Rookies reported to TC yesterday. Less than a week until veterans report and the first practice begins.

The 2011 NFCCG still leaves me feeling sick...time to go all the way this year. Leggo!

phlysac · 07-22-2012, 01:30 AM

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I wouldnt say thirty. He could play FS at around 195-200 lbs. Jim Lenhard did for years. Besides, I dont think he's 175 lbs. I think he's close to 190.

Alot of speculation by both of us. But Leonhard was undrafted and only started for 4 seasons. There's hardly a precedent.

VAfy-ya · 07-22-2012, 03:26 PM

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Alot of speculation by both of us. But Leonhard was undrafted and only started for 4 seasons. There's hardly a precedent.

True, but Leonhard wasn't nearly the player Matheiu is. He had some above average athleticism but he wasn't nearly the caliber of a Mathieu as playmaker and instinctually on the field. Im talking more of their physical statue. And let's not forget Leonhard had a HOF ahead of him on the depth chart. He may have been listed as a SS but he was much more a centerfielder by nature. Playing him at SS was more as a means to a end, to get him on field with Reed. Just like we esentially have two MIKE's at ILB in Bowman and Willis. They used two FS's in Reed and Leonhard.

Ness · 07-23-2012, 04:35 AM

I uploaded the 2011 49ers NFL Yearbook to my channel on YouTube. Here is the link if you want to watch:

http://youtu.be/KKT5viN2wz8

Brent · 07-24-2012, 03:18 PM

thanks, Ness!