Green Bay Packers Discussion

[PackerLegend]

Tramon was a beast during the SB year... But last year we all saw he wasnt the same but either was Sam Shields along with basically the entire secondary. Being one armed doesnt help but the pass rush played a big role in making them all look bad.

We need him badly so hopefully things get alot better for him soon.

[WCH]

Well crap. That explains a lot.

Hopefully Perry and company will be able to bring more of a pass rush.

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by WCH

Favre's playoff record looks a lot better if you throw out the Sherman years. Most Packer fans don't piece this together because .....

I'm not going to excuse Favre's f***ups in the playoff games because Sherman wasn't a very good coach.

The fact is it was the same coach who had the team as favorites over the Falcons and Vikings, at home, in the playoffs.... teams we should beat.

And the other QBs simply played better than Favre did in those playoff games. He did fine with Sherman in those regular seasons.

[BloodBrother]

That Tramon story made me sad. You just never know how long it will take for the nerve to regenerate. The fact that it's still only at 50% some 9 months later is not a good sign

probably another reason they moved up to draft a CB. Shields better get his sh*t together this season. His piss poor attempt at tackling was embarrassing. Hopefully the rave reports on Davon House from the coaches isn't just the usual offseason fluff pieces. Tramon may very well never reach his 2010 level again

this also helps explain things some more about last season. A combination of zero pass rush along with a one armed Tramon(couldn't tackle) and Sam Shields(too scared to tackle) does not bode well for your defense

[J-Mike88]

Nothing going on.... boring time.

Oh well, there's Federer-Djokovic coming up on Friday.
And I think Ferrer-Tsonga!

[Pack_Attack_4]

A Rod was ranked #1 on NFL networks top 100 show. the list is made by player votiong soo itrs pritty cool that Rodgers has the respect of the whole league.

[WCH]

Apparently, Favre was invited to Holmgren's PHOF induction, but indications are that he'll decline:

Bob Harlan hatched a solid plan to pull Brett Favre back into the fold of the Green Bay Packers, but the ol' gunslinger remains elusive.

Mike Holmgren is set to be inducted into the Packers Hall of Fame on July 21. Harlan, the retired team president, suggested the Hall extend an invite to the former quarterback. After all, Favre's messy split with the franchise had nothing to do with his former coach.

"We had a meeting about two months ago and talked about who should be invited back -- Jon Gruden, Andy Reid, people like that," Harlan told Green & Gold Today on Tuesday, via ESPNMilwaukee.com. "And we talked about players. And I said to the group, 'What about No. 4? This would be the perfect time for him to come back, come into Green Bay.'

There's more in the source article

I've said this before: I think it's a personal beef between Favre and Thompson. I don't know why, but there are plenty of rumors out there. Favre is going to come back to Green Bay when Thompson retires, and probably not a day sooner. It's unfortunate, because they've both been incredibly important parts of Packer history.

[J-Mike88]

Top ten most important Packers for 2012?

How different is your list?

[princefielder28]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

Top ten most important Packers for 2012?

How different is your list?

1. Rodgers
2. Matthews
3. Woodson
4. Jennings
5. Raji
6. Saturday
7. Burnett
8. Bishop
9. Newhouse
10. Williams

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

Top ten most important Packers for 2012?

How different is your list?

Yeah, Williams and Burnett are very important.

[J-Mike88]

How much is Rodgers going to get?

Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints have reached an agreement on a five-year, $100 million contract that includes a first-year take in 2012 of $40 million, according to league, players' union and team sources.

For all practical purposes, the guaranteed money is considered by all parties involved to be an NFL-record $60 million, though there are contractual, but unlikely, outs for the Saints before he would receive all of that sum.

[SuperPacker]

Rodgers is probably going to get more than that. But he deserves it, so it doesn't really matter.

I'll be annoyed if we do it like the Saints did and have pointless negotiations that will lead nowhere and will only have a negative effect. We should just pay him what he wants, within reason and move on.

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by SuperPacker

Rodgers is probably going to get more than that. But he deserves it, so it doesn't really matter.

I'll be annoyed if we do it like the Saints did and have pointless negotiations that will lead nowhere and will only have a negative effect. We should just pay him what he wants, within reason and move on.

Agreed. Get it done earlier before the b@st@rd National Media turns it into a big story.

We need to lock up Matthews as well, gonna be another monster deal.
I'm very worried there won't be enough money for Jennings.

[J-Mike88]

Problems with Rodgers? http://packersinsider.com/2012/07/aa...ourth-quarter/

[princefielder28]

the team has 'checked-in' on Cedric Benson recently

[PackerLegend]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

Problems with Rodgers? http://packersinsider.com/2012/07/aa...ourth-quarter/

I dont agree. Rodgers is clutch and I dont care what those stats say. Very few of those 4th Q loses are his fault.

[J-Mike88]

Originally Posted by PackerLegend

I dont agree. Rodgers is clutch and I dont care what those stats say. Very few of those 4th Q loses are his fault.

Which stats don't you agree with?


http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/Art...y_Packers.html

[Sportsfan486]

It's a flukey "stat" with minimal bearing.

Winning percentage is a far more accurate way to gauge the exact same thing; how clutch the QB is. But wait, that has nothing to do with being clutch! Except that it does. Producing a TD on the first drive that gives your team momentum = just as much as a game-tying TD in the 4th.

Points per drive or winning percentage evaluation is a much more accurate and logical way to deduce the vague idea that those articles describe. Being "clutch" (as in evening up games or taking the lead in the 4th) is overrated. Winning is what matters. A close 4th quarter win might be more fun to watch but every coach on the planet would rather his QB stack up points for a big lead and cruise on home.

[J-Mike88]

From Tommy Silverstein:

-With all their draft picks signed and no veteran holdouts pending, the #Packers are $11 million under the salary cap. That should give them room to do the Greg Jennings and Clay Matthews deals this year.

They'll be able to burn some of the charges in 2012, but they'll still have to amortize signing bonuses because those deals will not be for chump change.

There will be significant upfront money paid if they are able to reach agreements with both players.

Matthews is only slated to make a Walmart like $800K this year. He deserves much more.

[mqtirishfan]

Originally Posted by J-Mike88

Which stats don't you agree with?


http://coldhardfootballfacts.com/Art...y_Packers.html

What stats are there? I see a misleadingly small sample size that consists solely of winning percentages.

[PackerFan20]

Peprah released - because of the surgery or because they like Jennings and McMillan better?

[SuperPacker]

Probably the latter. It does leave us a bit think at safety, though.

[J-Mike88]

Peprah was told at the end of last season he needed to get his knee "cleaned out", and he chose not to, to wait.

He wasn't ready as the physical showed, and the Packers moved the train down the line.

They don't think that his shoes will be hard to fill considering he was the anchor of that backside last year which allowed more yards passing than any other team in NFL history. Then he played terrible both tackling and covering in the Giant loss.

[PackerLegend]

How our safety position was fallen. Once looking fairly bright with Nick C and Morgan B. Now looks pretty weak to terrible. Pep wasn't much but he was the most experienced. With him failing his physical it was guaranteed he was out. Even healthy I think he would have to really have stood out to save himself

[SuperPacker]

If Woodson moves back there, we should see an improvement. That'll only happen if Casey Hayward is able to take over the nickel corner role, though.