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Old 07-20-2012, 04:42 PM    (permalink
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and it's aurora. if there's a shithole in denver, it's aurora. police would've been aware that gang activity wasn't... unlikely.
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:45 PM    (permalink
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I am not really trying to say any police officer would have been able to intervene and prevent this, although they may have. The guy was decked out in BP gear, but he surrendered to the police, so its hard to know what would have happened if a police officer had been able to respond earlier and engage him.

But I was asking a serious question about the security at these types of events(outside of the regular employed security guard). A midnight release like this is as big of an event as any in most all towns and cities across America. Seems like it would make sense to have at least a couple of officers on duty to deal with potential drunks, hasslers, fights, etc. So I was just wondering if they were indeed there.
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Exactly. There is a reason that this is big news. It is a very rare occasion. People talk on twitter about "all of these mass shootings", but really, in the United States, it probably only happens something like once every 5 years or so. In fact, VT was 5 years ago, and I can't remember any big ones between then and now.
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Hopefully when technology gets better there won't be the need for pat downs and what not and commercial, convenient machines can just analyze someone and see if they are packing heat or anything harmful...like in Total Recall or something.
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Old 07-20-2012, 04:54 PM    (permalink
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Hopefully when technology gets better there won't be the need for pat downs and what not and commercial, convenient machines can just analyze someone and see if they are packing heat or anything harmful...like in Total Recall or something.
they had those. they were gotten rid of by TSA for various reasons that aren't nfldc appropriate.
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they had those. they were gotten rid of by TSA for various reasons that aren't nfldc appropriate.
Political? I am curious about this.
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Hopefully when technology gets better there won't be the need for pat downs and what not and commercial, convenient machines can just analyze someone and see if they are packing heat or anything harmful...like in Total Recall or something.
There will never been a 100% secure location. Security is all about making people feel safe, and not actually about making things safe. There will always be a way to beat the system.

At some point people need to stop worrying and learn to love the bomb (though they never will).
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Political? I am curious about this.
people were scared about the TSA seeing their small weiners so they complained about their "personal privacy" or some **** like that.
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Exactly. There is a reason that this is big news. It is a very rare occasion. People talk on twitter about "all of these mass shootings", but really, in the United States, it probably only happens something like once every 5 years or so. In fact, VT was 5 years ago, and I can't remember any big ones between then and now.
The Gabriel Giffords incident.
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Old 07-20-2012, 06:17 PM    (permalink
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people were scared about the TSA seeing their small weiners so they complained about their "personal privacy" or some **** like that.
that couldn't be less remotely true in any way, shape or form.
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Old 07-20-2012, 06:27 PM    (permalink
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Honestly this reddit user is providing the clearest best coverage I think

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I'm glad that 3 month old is doing alright.
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God damn it Gonzo.
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God damn it Gonzo.
I wasn't getting political or picking sides. It was a pretty all encompassing **** you.
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I'm currently working as a security guard and having one or two on site wouldn't have done anything to stop this. They wouldn't have been armed at a site like that. Guy probably would have just shot them first.
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This is why we can't have nice things.
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I'm currently working as a security guard and having one or two on site wouldn't have done anything to stop this. They wouldn't have been armed at a site like that. Guy probably would have just shot them first.
That is why I am asking specifically about police officers.
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that couldn't be less remotely true in any way, shape or form.
yes, but people were complaining about that, so i thought it was kind of humorous.

Again, not the time of place for a political discussion about security, so looking for a little bit of levity.
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yes, but people were complaining about that, so i thought it was kind of humorous.

Again, not the time of place for a political discussion about security, so looking for a little bit of levity.
ah, fair enough. given how frequently i fly, i'm prickly about tsa. comment rescinded.
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Does Colorado have the death penalty?

And before some smartass lmgtfy's me my phone hates google and won't let me.
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yes, but we've only used it once.

i'd rather chuck him in the supermax in florence.
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yes, but we've only used it once.

i'd rather chuck him in the supermax in florence.
When was that?
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1997, gary johnson davis, iirc. rape/murder. as far as i know, there's no one on death row in colorado currently, either.

edit again, there are three people currently on death row. weird that i only remember one of the crimes.

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I say put him in a room with Bale. If he wants to pretend he's The Joker, give him Batman (this isn't an insensitive joke, I really just want him to get pummeled).
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For a second I thought I read "put him in a room with Bane". That would suck.
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