2012 Pittsburgh Steelers Discussion

[brat316]

Did anyone wake up saturday an nab some tickets for 70 dollars. I forgot :(.

[Hines]

Woah, Steelers cut Brandon Lindsey. Surprising to say the least. I thought he would make a very good run at the PS. Looks like they like Adrian Robinson more.


Edit: Found out it was injury related. I love Lindsey's potential and should have stashed him on IR.

[K Train]

i am kinda thinking they will not be able to sign wallace long term before this season, but i do think that if he shows up to play this year under his tender he will be guaranteed a long term deal next season, similar to what happened to woodley. I understand his concern and i dont think its totally fair, but when it comes down to it they need him but cant really afford to lock him up right now. I think its definitely in his best interest to play, he would get a cheaper deal this year even if they do sign him just because of cap issues, if he comes out and plays well he will get a top dollar deal from the steelers because they will be able to afford it and if not he will make much more money next year than he would anywhere this year. I dont think saying things like "they have to be careful with wallace so they dont lose brown" is fair because brown needs wallace and wallace is a better player, but thats because everyone is so down on wallace for unofficially holding out...but i guarantee if this was holmes vs wallace you all would be hating on holmes and saying how wallace needs to be locked up ect.....just the nature of the business i suppose.

I fully expect wallace to dominate in haleys offense, 12+ TDs and 1300+ yards is very doable i believe. This should be his breakout year, all todd haley does is turn WRs into studs, thats his thing, just like arians thing was to throw it deep 10 times a game.

Im really interested in positional battles, i would love to make it to camp this year for a day or 2 i have never been there. this year is really a year of a youth movement on both sides of the ball

adams vs gilbert is going to be awesome, i hope scott isnt even in the conversation. I would imagine that starks is on speed dial should adams struggle, but i think even if he cant lock down the left side where hes penciled now, the right side should be where he would fall to which isnt a bad thing because im not opposed to gilbert on the left either, just on paper it looks like adams is the better LT

lewis vs brown vs allen is another one that ill monitor closely. Im interested to see who gets the start for clark week one, do they give it to mundy again? i like mundy as a backup strong, but not as a starting free. I anticipate Ike and Lewis starting at CB (should lewis struggle allen would slip right in and possibly give lewis a shot at FS) but i think cortez gets the week one start at FS and then he and lewis rotate at LCB until one os them locks it down. I think brown gets the NB spot and could quite possibly lead the team in picks this year, hes silky smooth in coverage and has some insane vertical and ball skills.

rainey vs redman vs batch vs dwyer screams mediocrity but should be fun lol, as much as i loathe redman as a starting back i think he will be serviceable behind this improved oline for a few weeks....as with lewis/allen id like him to split time evenly until one runs away with the right to the majority of the carries, which i think would be dwyer.


taamu vs mcclendon is a quiet battle, but i REALLY like what taamu offers, i think he could lock down NT from day one and run away with it, but the defensive coaches love vets and if mcclendon really is up to 325 (which seems unlikely to me as he was 280ish last year) and he can hold up at that weight it seems taamu might be a rotational player at best as a rookie, although i do not think hes a 2 down NT like many do when they see the "346 pounds" because hes not just a fat slob, hes a mammoth of a man but carries all that weight very well. Its also do or die for al woods, who ive always loved...hes gotta shake the raw label.

hood vs heyward both will play a lot, but with keisel still being our best Dlineman they will have to fight for a starter spot and a spot that spells both keisel and whoever wins the starter spot. We all know that OUTER LIMIT SPORTS IMPROVES YOUR EXPLOSIVENESS!!!!!! with evanders videos being whored around the internet, but heyward in year two should be something special to watch. the man stacks and sheds blockers like hes a boulder covered in butter and he brings down runners with one arm in traffic, hood gets washed out too much and bends around the corner like hes a 250 pound OLB jsut to get blocked out of the play

saunders vs pope is a crucial battle for saunders, saunders absoultely blocks his ass off and really looks like heath miller when he catches the ball, hes got sweet feet and soft hands for a big man, but pope follows haley and saunders is suspended for 4 games, he needs to shine in camp and preseason. Paulson i suppose could make a case as well, hes a decent recieving threat, im really on board with saunders though

quietly i think brown vs sanders could be very interesting too. Sanders is an excellent route runner and has excellent hands, brown is erratic in route running and has a knack for a big awkward catch. I think brown is a BEAST #2, but if sanders can work his way to the outside spot and stay healthy brown would go from beast #2 to the best slot WR in the league, hes got a certain feel for the zones and a quickness that is sporadic but super effective when hes allowed to roam. Ive always like brown more than sanders, but i wouldnt count sanders out just yet

foote vs spence vs sly is a wierd one to play next to timmons, i imagine foot wins it, sly is the primary backup, and spence is a special teamer and possible Nickel/Dime LB

I predict that decastro is a top 5 guard by mid season, and pouncey shakes the hype and overrated label hes been given after last year and locks himself down as a top 3 center again.


a quick mock draft for next season:

1. TJ Mcdonald, FS USCong
2. Chase Thomas, OLB Stanford
3. Dennard Robinson, WR/KR Michigan
4. EJ Manuel, QB FSU
5. Cierre Wood, RB Notre Dame
6. Partick Larrimore, MLB UCLA
7. Dustin Hopkins, K FSU

[Hines]

Only gripes I have on the post is that Allen won't be the starting FS week 1. We both know it will be Mundy.

I think if Dwyer really does show up to camp lighter than he normally does and shows the coaches explosion, he will be the starting RB. He's a way better RB than Redman and should be the starter. Redman should be serviceable, though. Mendenhall will be back around week 6-8 and hopefully takes off the rest of the year.

[K Train]

1 meant to say i think cortez SHOULD get the week one start, im not a clark fan at all but mundy doesnt play FS very well, hes much better filling in for troy

im anhuge dwyer fan and a huge redman hater so i would LOVE to see that

[Smooth Criminal]

Peyton Manning will love seeing Ryan Mundy on the field.

[Hines]

Ike Taylor said that Cortez Allen, if healthy, will be way better than him.

[Hines]

If Mendenhall comes back strong, I hope the Steelers at least franchise him. The cap hit won't be too high and no one on the roster compares to him as a pure running back.

[Hines]

Max Starks resigns. Bye Bye Jon Scott.

[Smooth Criminal]

Lots of depth on the OL well. I love it.

[K Train]

My girlfriend is taking me to the Eagles/Steelers preseason game here in philly, when do you guys think getting preseason tickets is a good time? Like i know you can get baseball tickets to phillies games real cheap the day of or the day before...would preseason tickets be the same way?

[Hines]

Originally Posted by K Train

My girlfriend is taking me to the Eagles/Steelers preseason game here in philly, when do you guys think getting preseason tickets is a good time? Like i know you can get baseball tickets to phillies games real cheap the day of or the day before...would preseason tickets be the same way?

I'm not sure. I suspect them to be cheap, but I'd rather get them now on StubHub to make sure you get them cheap.

[Hines]

Jon Scott is officially cut!!!!

[brat316]

they are usually always cheap.

[Mr. Goosemahn]

Originally Posted by Hines

Jon Scott is officially cut!!!!

Oh happy day!

One more day, gents, and the influx of much-anticipated information will be on its way!

[brat316]

All Rookies signed.

[Hines]

Would not be surprised if Mike Wallace is signed by late tonight, mid tomorrow. Bank on that.

[SCSteeler]

Originally Posted by Hines

Would not be surprised if Mike Wallace is signed by late tonight, mid tomorrow. Bank on that.

Oh, PLEASE be true! How sweet would it be to go into camp with all that handled?!

[Smooth Criminal]

With all the rumors swirling, it appears it will likely get done at some point.

[Hines]

Harrison and Worilds are all on the camp PUP list. This is a great chance for Chris Carter to take that next step. I firmly believe he will be the one replacing Harrison after the season.


Also, look out for Robert Golden. He's my sleeper this year. If he's a final cut, he damn sure will be on the PS. I think he makes the roster.

[K Train]

i dont think carter has it in him personally

[brat316]

yeah me either. thought i'm not big on Worilds. but I hope Sylvester pulls through.

[Hines]

I think Carter will surprise. I guess your boy Adrien Robinson is looking good too.


Another thing, I still think Wallace signs. AB's deal will get him in camp IMO.

[brat316]

ARob, I have a hard time seeing him as OLB, even in 3-4. He was at his best with hand in the ground, stand up he was alright. But if coached up I guess he could do it, though I thought he was undersized during his college years.

Temple ran both 4-3 and 3-4 varying years. Best year as 4-3 end was projected 2nd rd, 3-4 rusher dropped him.

[Hines]

Unless he blows everyone away, he'll get a year on the PS and then go from there. I expect Harrison to get cut, which will give him a shot. Don't see the Steelers not picking up a pass rusher in next year's draft.