Movie Discussion Thread

[kalbears13]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

I already said that you ******* asshole.

**** you i can't read

[Job Reborn]

Originally Posted by Todd Bertuzzi

Mighty Ducks is obviously the greatest trilogy ever.

The third one's crap.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

D3>GF 3

discuss

[SuperMcGee]

Naked Gun and Toy Story

/trilogies

D3 is seriously terrible, though.

[vidae]

There are no bad Mighty Ducks movies. If you disagree you're probably a terrorist.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Originally Posted by vidae

There are no bad Mighty Ducks movies. If you disagree you're probably a terrorist.

[kalbears13]

Originally Posted by vidae

There are no bad Mighty Ducks movies. If you disagree you're probably a terrorist.

Or from Iceland.

[brat316]

Originally Posted by kalbears13

Or from Iceland.

I think you mean Greenland.

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by vidae

There are no bad Mighty Ducks movies. If you disagree you're probably a terrorist.

The third one ******* sucks.

[Caddy]

Quack! Quack! Quack!

[Bulldogs]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

The third one ******* sucks.

D3 is awesome you god damn nazi.

[kalbears13]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

The third one ******* sucks.

You're figuratively the reason god hates homosexuals.

[TACKLE]

As someone who will fight to the death to defend the honor of Mighty Ducks and D2, D3 wasn't good.

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by Bulldogs

D3 is awesome you god damn nazi.

If you have godawful taste.

[Rosebud]

About to watch Atlas Shrugged Part 1, my expectations are pretty damn low, but I've always had a soft spot in my heart for that mean-spirited, infuriatingly pretentious, and narcissistic crazy-*****, and Atlas Shrugged was my second favorite of her books. So hopefully it trips over my super low expectations for a pleasant surprise.

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by Rosebud

About to watch Atlas Shrugged Part 1, my expectations are pretty damn low, but I've always had a soft spot in my heart for that mean-spirited, infuriatingly pretentious, and narcissistic crazy-*****, and Atlas Shrugged was my second favorite of her books. So hopefully it trips over my super low expectations for a pleasant surprise.

You read Ayn Rand? Respect for you has just died, bottomed out, gone to hell, past hell and slipped into a bottomless pit.

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

You read Ayn Rand? Respect for you has just died, bottomed out, gone to hell, past hell and slipped into a bottomless pit.

She was an insufferable evil shrew of a women who deeply misunderstood fundamental aspects of human interaction, but I did enjoy reading The Fountainhead growing up, Howard Rourke was just epically badass....kinda like late 80's Arny but with a ruler and a compass instead of an endless series of machine guns. Plus I've always loved Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.

Plus Brody, with how deeply and completely wrong you are about oh so many things, I'm not sure I should be all that worried about how much respect you have for me.

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by Rosebud

She was an insufferable evil shrew of a women who deeply misunderstood fundamental aspects of human interaction, but I did enjoy reading The Fountainhead growing up, Howard Rourke was just epically badass....kinda like late 80's Arny but with a ruler and a compass instead of an endless series of machine guns. Plus I've always loved Frank Lloyd Wright's architecture.

Plus Brody, with how deeply and completely wrong you are about oh so many things, I'm not sure I should be all that worried about how much respect you have for me.

I'm wrong about a few things here and there, but I don't read Ayn Rand. It's like an edge on my part.

[WCH]

Let me know if it's worth watching, Rosebud. I always tl;dr'd Rand, but I read the crap out of Mises and Hayek. I understand her writings were along the same lines.

[Rosebud]

Can't really blame you. Ayn Rand's definitely not someone I recommend, so few people enjoy her work that aren't pretentious douchebags, who read her work thinking of themselves as Howard Rourke or John Galt. But for me the Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged hold special places in my heart because of nostalgia for the place and time were I first read those books, and who I used to talk about her books with.

Plus, past all the furious philosophy is an author who is just awed by the genius that our species sometimes avoids ******* up, and I supersize with that, too often people get caught up ******** on Humanity and Western Civilization, so there's something kinda sweet about just how utterly blown away she is by what Western Civilization hasn't manage to prevent.

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by WCH

Let me know if it's worth watching, Rosebud. I always tl;dr'd Rand, but I read the crap out of Mises and Hayek. I understand her writings were along the same lines.

Sorta...the economic theories that are at the foundations of both are very similar, but Ayn Rand was much more focused on creating and promoting her Objectivist philosophy, whereas Mises, Hayek and Rothbard were first and foremost, economists and from there got onto some philosophical grounds.

Rand was also much more mean spirited and dismissive of those that didn't agree with her, like when she met Rothbard and wouldn't stop giving him and his wife **** for their faith.

[Bert Macklin]

Downloading the Ducks trilogy as we type!

[Rosebud]

So I just finished Atlas Shrugged...*sigh*...at least it looked pretty. Unfortunately they hit some of the major issues that arise from trying turn over a thousand pages of allegorical philozophizing into about 3 hours of film footage, part one was a smooth 90 minutes. I understand staying true to the source material, but the dialogue needed to be re-written, just taking bits and pieces from page long soliloquies doesn't work in a film and the lines came off as inhuman and stiff, making it really hard for the actors. What's most upsetting is it didn't need to be this rough, you can hit all the points that need to be hit without undermining the character's focus and drive.

I also probably would've changed it being about trains, didn't actually have as much of a problem with the way the film handled it as I thought I would, but there were better fields to make the work translate better to our time.

Overall I enjoyed it despite the problems, since it wasn't as rough as I was expecting, but god damn are there some real simple changes to the dialogue and the way they speak that would've made it drastically better as a film. As is it's absurdly heavy handed and some of the actors really struggled to make the lines seem human. I'm pretty terrified for how this film is going to handle John Galt's final speech, which was something like 50 pages long in the book.

I guess that may actually be staying truer to the spirit of Ayn Rand than I would've, but her stories would be so much more accessible on the big screen with some oh so simple adjustments.

[Brodeur]

So basically......too much Ayn Rand style rape?

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

So basically......too much Ayn Rand style rape?

There wasn't even any rape in this movie.

It really is a shame they couldn't get a good writer to actually make the dialogue work for a movie. Ayn Rand works because Ayn Rand wrote thousand page philosophical allegories, like Plato's Republic, you can't use that same dialogue in a film because you don't have hundreds of pages to pontificate and explain yourself.