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SK is the ******* best role I have played btw. I don't have to give a **** about the town and the sheeple ******* tards in it and I don't have to hear the mafia ***** and moan about things. I just did my own ****, got to kill *************, and generally just got to be a badass. I look forward to the next time I am SK.
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SK is the ******* best role I have played btw. I don't have to give a **** about the town and the sheeple ******* tards in it and I don't have to hear the mafia ***** and moan about things. I just did my own ****, got to kill *************, and generally just got to be a badass. I look forward to the next time I am SK.
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I swear I get suspected of being the SK in most games. It's never going to actually happen.
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O RLY??????
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Ya rly. It really shouldn't be the mods job to step in and make a decision for the town. That, and people need to learn to stop relying so hard on information and follow their gut more and learn how to sell their argument to other people. If the games keep getting flooded with roles and people rely on information, people will never learn how to truly scum hunt and therefore people will never get any better. Maybe its corny but I want people to start having to make decisions, even when there is no information, and learn how to brush it off when they make a mistake.
I know everyone likes to make fun of how Gonzo plays but he has a short memory and he typically is a good scum hunter when he is town. I'm not saying people need to go full Gonzo but there are aspects to his game that people could learn from. Less investigative roles and less mod intervention will help with that.
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Perhaps you should be the one person who won't be randomized, forever disbarred from being a SK.
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Damn you Cigaro. Don't do me dirty like that! I really do enjoy not having to play on the same side as any of you assholes. Lone wolf bitches!
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I swear I get suspected of being the SK in most games. It's never going to actually happen.
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Being the sole person trying to destroy my Mouzone reign is enough.
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I don't know what is going on. But non-randomization is pretty obvious in certain cases.
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Gonzo just popped a never ending erection after reading Grizz's comments.
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Ya rly. It really shouldn't be the mods job to step in and make a decision for the town. That, and people need to learn to stop relying so hard on information and follow their gut more and learn how to sell their argument to other people. If the games keep getting flooded with roles and people rely on information, people will never learn how to truly scum hunt and therefore people will never get any better. Maybe its corny but I want people to start having to make decisions, even when there is no information, and learn how to brush it off when they make a mistake.
I know everyone likes to make fun of how Gonzo plays but he has a short memory and he typically is a good scum hunter when he is town. I'm not saying people need to go full Gonzo but there are aspects to his game that people could learn from. Less investigative roles and less mod intervention will help with that.
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Agreed on all of it. I keep saying it but of course it is me saying it so I am just being an arrogant asshole. Having a short memory is key. Also not caring when people call me an idiot and say I played a **** game. Just playing balls to the wall, playing for entertainment vale, and just having a good time. I don't give a **** what people say about me so I just do whatever I please in these games.
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SK is the ******* best role I have played btw. I don't have to give a **** about the town and the sheeple ******* tards in it and I don't have to hear the mafia ***** and moan about things. I just did my own ****, got to kill *************, and generally just got to be a badass. I look forward to the next time I am SK.
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I second this x1000000000000000. I loved being the SK and games haven't been the same ever since. I don't think any role will ever live up to SK for me, haha.
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It's simple as far as I'm concerned. Reduce the number of power roles, increase the number of townies, force people to use their intuition and reasoning skills. Done.
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Ya rly. It really shouldn't be the mods job to step in and make a decision for the town. That, and people need to learn to stop relying so hard on information and follow their gut more and learn how to sell their argument to other people. If the games keep getting flooded with roles and people rely on information, people will never learn how to truly scum hunt and therefore people will never get any better. Maybe its corny but I want people to start having to make decisions, even when there is no information, and learn how to brush it off when they make a mistake.
I know everyone likes to make fun of how Gonzo plays but he has a short memory and he typically is a good scum hunter when he is town. I'm not saying people need to go full Gonzo but there are aspects to his game that people could learn from. Less investigative roles and less mod intervention will help with that.
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That's why I have a 24 hour hard cap with everyone eligible for RR afterwards. People should be able to come to a decision within 24 hours, there really is no excuse. But like you said, I don't think people should be able to use RR as a tool for something, like keeping it contained to those with votes. So I just have everyone eligible. Its a pretty effective way to accomplish that goal, IMO.
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I second this x1000000000000000. I loved being the SK and games haven't been the same ever since. I don't think any role will ever live up to SK for me, haha.
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I won as SK, I am satisfied with the role for eternity.
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I second this x1000000000000000. I loved being the SK and games haven't been the same ever since. I don't think any role will ever live up to SK for me, haha.
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Good thing you're the SK every other game, then.
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It's simple as far as I'm concerned. Reduce the number of power roles, increase the number of townies, force people to use their intuition and reasoning skills. Done.
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Easy peazy. If you don't like being a townie, **** you.
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I wanna be SK :(
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It's simple as far as I'm concerned. Reduce the number of power roles, increase the number of townies, force people to use their intuition and reasoning skills. Done.
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Grizz I agree that people not wanting to make a mistake is a huge factor. A lot of people do not want to be seen as dumb in the game so they kind of sit back and let others take the lead and sometimes the fall. A healthy dose of not giving a **** must be had by all. Who the **** cares is some asshole is going to ***** about how you played a bad game? Just have fun.
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Being the sole person trying to destroy my Mouzone reign is enough.
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I won as SK, I am satisfied with the role for eternity.
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Stop taunting me.
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Easy peazy. If you don't like being a townie, **** you.
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Being a townie is fun cuz I personally dgaf and just play free haha
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I second this x1000000000000000. I loved being the SK and games haven't been the same ever since. I don't think any role will ever live up to SK for me, haha.
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SK is my dream role, mostly for the same reason. To be able to play entirely for myself would be awesome. But for some reason, I am never evil of any sort(the Wire game is the only one so far).
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Townie is a baller role and honestly miller sucks but it is pretty ******* fun as well. I don't need to worry about being killed at night so I just **** all over everybody and see what sticks.
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Grizz I agree that people not wanting to make a mistake is a huge factor. A lot of people do not want to be seen as dumb in the game so they kind of sit back and let others take the lead and sometimes the fall. A healthy dose of not giving a **** must be had by all. Who the **** cares is some asshole is going to ***** about how you played a bad game? Just have fun.
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Actually agreeing with you lol
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SK is my dream role, mostly for the same reason. To be able to play entirely for myself would be awesome. But for some reason, I am never evil of any sort(the Wire game is the only one so far).
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I played in every single game just to make the odds that I would be one sooner or later better. It was worth it. I ******* hate having to deal with people and justify ****. It is a very freeing role. I was calm, cool, and collected and just did my thing.
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I've been preaching this since the beginning of mafia games, everyone knows that. Honestly, in my opinion, the more elaborate and weird power roles that are introduced, the less skill is involved and the less fun games are for me. I like keeping it simple. But people get on the rags when they get townie, so you're going to piss a lot of people off when there is 10 people who have no night action.
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