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Old 08-03-2012, 08:08 AM    (permalink
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Anyway, I was planning on being done with all things mafia after this game until next offseason, but you fools have gone and given me an idea.

Give me a slot in one of these upcoming weeks and I'll give you want you want: A guaranteed random game with extremely limited town power roles.

Looking at you guys Caddy, Gonzo...put up or shut up with those deductive skills you've been itching to show off.
You don't think I possess any deductive skills? I single handedly (Todd excluded) took down Gonzo/Back-up Godfather a few games back without a hint of evidence. I actually go with my gut BB. I'm not sure the same can be said of you. And Gonzo and I might not like each others approaches, but at least he too actually goes with his gut feeling. One of the very, very few.
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It actually HAS had a fantastic balancing effect. Headed forward, you are correct, there will be no choice but to randomize since this dirty little secret has gotten out.

But several of the best games I've modded/played in weren't completely randomized and it helped enormously.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:10 AM    (permalink
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You don't think I possess any deductive skills? I single handedly (Todd excluded) took down Gonzo/Back-up Godfather a few games back without a hint of evidence. I actually go with my gut BB. I'm not sure the same can be said of you. And Gonzo and I might not like each others approaches, but at least he too actually goes with his gut feeling. One of the very, very few.
There was no intended sarcasm. You say you've got them, and I'm willing to give you (and everyone) a game to show them off.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:11 AM    (permalink
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It doesn't matter how you spin it, randomisation is the only true, fair option. The fact that certain people or groups of people are predisposed to be certain roles/teams just tarnishes the game as far as I am concerned.

If one of the reasons you make an inactive person a townie, because they aren't around a lot, then don't let them play. From now on what is going to happen is the regular contributors are going to be targeted even MORE often than usual because now people will know/think that they're more likely to have a power role, and based on recent history they'd apparently be right.

In future games you have to go random now, because otherwise, players like myself/Gonzo/Jbond/Viddy/Jr/Bulldogs etc will be killed early by the mafia because they'll think it has been rigged a certain way.

You say you have to balance it, but I completely disagree. Random is the best way. It is the only way to completely eliminate any bias in the role giving process.
Preferably njx finishes that site and everyone has a randomized name that is only for that game thus removing any biases.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:12 AM    (permalink
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There was no intended sarcasm. You say you've got them, and I'm willing to give you (and everyone) a game to show them off.
Just check out my past games, you'll see it is fairly apparent in many of them. I don't follow people. I only plan on playing in games with great/amazing themes heading forward to be honest.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:12 AM    (permalink
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Preferably njx finishes that site and everyone has a randomized name that is only for that game thus removing any biases.
If that were possible, it would be extremely awesome.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:15 AM    (permalink
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If that were possible, it would be extremely awesome.
That is what he is trying to do.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:16 AM    (permalink
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That is what he is trying to do.
I know he is trying Cain... :\ Doesn't mean it'll actually end up happening.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:17 AM    (permalink
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So, as I understand it, that is going to give people random code names for each game, correct?
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:36 AM    (permalink
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That is the best idea ever.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:37 AM    (permalink
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That is the best idea ever.
Well, everyone will still know you're you. Instead of "Snicho, reveal yourself!" it will be "x67uve4, reveal yourself!"
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:48 AM    (permalink
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My son has a doctor's appointment at 10:30 so I'll be stepping out in about 15 minutes for about an hour or so, just wanted to let everyone know
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:16 AM    (permalink
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I don't get this notion that I throw in the towel as a townie. I'm one of the few that talks just as much when I am.
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:18 AM    (permalink
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I don't get this notion that I throw in the towel as a townie. I'm one of the few that talks just as much when I am.
You have had a few games where you have been quiet as a townie. It was mainly the DDN game for the first 3 days.

ATL is the main culprit and he knows it. I think he has even said its the case.
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:22 AM    (permalink
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DDN game I kept my mouth shut until I had a clue what was going on then was probably the most active poster.
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:41 AM    (permalink
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ATL is the main culprit and he knows it. I think he has even said its the case.

I admit nothing. Seriously though, I don't think I "throw in the towel" as a townie. I still add and participate, I just play lazy/more prone to skimming, etc.
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:42 AM    (permalink
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:44 AM    (permalink
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I admit nothing. Seriously though, I don't think I "throw in the towel" as a townie. I still add and participate, I just play lazy/more prone to skimming, etc.
That's kind of what we mean. Both of you tend to do it. Everyone modding the DDN game discussed it at one point, so it's pretty evident when you do it.
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That's kind of what we mean. Both of you tend to do it. Everyone modding the DDN game discussed it at one point, so it's pretty evident when you do it.

That's fair. I thought you meant not participating/being timid.
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Cain does have one very important point though. If someone who is known for not sending in night actions or taking their sweet time doing so. I would highly consider moving that role.
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:58 AM    (permalink
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That's fair. I thought you meant not participating/being timid.
Neither of you becomes full blow inactive, but I think your participation drops a little with the laziness aspect of it. Whereas at some points, either of you is capable of dominating the conversation and playing really well, you just seem to play half-hearted when townie.

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Cain does have one very important point though. If someone who is known for not sending in night actions or taking their sweet time doing so. I would highly consider moving that role.
Him and I actually discussed not too long ago about not taking the action of the last person to submit their action each night. They get mod roleblocked basically.

There is no god damn reason for EVER taking 10-12 hours to submit your action during daylight-evening hours. Overnight I care less because even I'm asleep, but sometimes the thread will close in the late morning or early afternoon and it takes until THE NEXT ******* DAY to get it started again because certain pieces of **** decide to take for-*******-ever to get their actions in. It's extremely irritating.

And I don't give a **** about any excuse you have when that happens. Like, I realize that certain people are in vastly different time zones or can't check in from work like some of us can. But at least check in before you leave for work/sleep, or check in as soon as you get our of work/wake up. Check from your phone on breaks. Do something! Don't ******* bother to sign up when you know you're going to be away for vast stretches of the day.

I'm sure you want to play, but don't hold up 20 other people because you can't be bothered to get online for 5 minutes to send in your action.
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Cain does have one very important point though. If someone who is known for not sending in night actions or taking their sweet time doing so. I would highly consider moving that role.
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