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Old 08-16-2012, 02:55 AM    (permalink
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It's about what you believe. Anyone can be Batman. That doesn't make them a superhero.
I'd say anyone can dress up like a crime fighter and do their best to try and save the planet. But not the Batman we've come to know which exists because of Bruce's unique experiences.

I don't think you need to have super powers to be considered a superhero either.
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It's about what you believe. Anyone can be Batman. That doesn't make them a superhero.
Anyone can be Batman does not mean everyone can be Batman. Being Batman would require something very, very special, i.e. what brings the character into consideration as being a super hero. Anyone can be Batman, but I am pretty sure no one on this forum could, or 99.999999% of the rest of the people on this planet.
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Just like no one could built a fantastic suit of armor (Iron Man).
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Anyone can be Batman does not mean everyone can be Batman. Being Batman would require something very, very special, i.e. what brings the character into consideration as being a super hero. Anyone can be Batman, but I am pretty sure no one on this forum could, or 99.999999% of the rest of the people on this planet.
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I'd say anyone can dress up like a crime fighter and do their best to try and save the planet. But not the Batman we've come to know which exists because of Bruce's unique experiences.

I don't think you need to have super powers to be considered a superhero either.
If you don't have super powers you aren't a superhero. You're just a hero.
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Really? This is what you believe? Then Batman, Green Arrow, and Iron Man aren't superheroes.

And personally I just don't believe that. I think it's not as black as white. I'd say if you wear a costume and are able to do something or have an extra ordinary ability or set of abilities that are extremely unique (either cosmic or just based on contrived circumstances like Batman) to that point where no one else can pretty much emulate what you do, you're a superhero.
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Really? This is what you believe? Then Batman, Green Arrow, and Iron Man aren't superheroes.

And personally I just don't believe that. I think it's not as black as white. I'd say if you wear a costume and are able to do something or have an extra ordinary ability or set of abilities that are extremely unique (either cosmic or just based on contrived circumstances like Batman) to that point where no one else can pretty much emulate what you do, you're a superhero.
Batman knows martial arts and tony stark is super smart. Neither super human abilities.

Batman is my favorite character of all time and there's nothing he can do that can't be duplicated. I mean a regular city cop is the next "superhero" in TDKR.
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I completely disagree that you need 'super-human' powers to be a 'super-hero'. The super doesn't just refer to powers, it refers to abilities which can justifiably include gadgets, martial arts skills, acrobatics, high intelligence etc etc.
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Batman knows martial arts and tony stark is super smart. Neither super human abilities.

Batman is my favorite character of all time and there's nothing he can do that can't be duplicated. I mean a regular city cop is the next "superhero" in TDKR.
Right, but there is no law that says you have to have some cosmic abilities that literally no one else on the planet can do in order for you to be a super hero. For me personally, it's a combination of certain tropes plus how they are used that are seen in super hero stories that can make a person a superhero.

I wouldn't consider Zorro a superhero for instance. He wears a costume, has a secret identity, and knows sword fighting plus he also has money. But I think the circumstances for Batman are a lot harder to duplicate for any person that gave it a shot. I would classify Bruce Wayne as having "extraordinary" abilities compared to a normal human being.
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I always thought that in order to be a superhero you had to have a super power. Thus, Batman and Iron Man are not superheros in my mind.
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When I think of a hero I think of someone people idolize, like a famous athlete or somebody who does something courageous in combat or during a catastrophic event like 9/11.
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Really? This is what you believe? Then Batman, Green Arrow, and Iron Man aren't superheroes.

And personally I just don't believe that. I think it's not as black as white. I'd say if you wear a costume and are able to do something or have an extra ordinary ability or set of abilities that are extremely unique (either cosmic or just based on contrived circumstances like Batman) to that point where no one else can pretty much emulate what you do, you're a superhero.
So is Liam Neeson a superhero?
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That's a bad example and you know it.

Liam neeson is obviously a ******* superhero.
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That's a bad example and you know it.

Liam neeson is obviously a ******* superhero.
Yeah, but Ness said you need to wear a costume to be a superhero.
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Yeah, but Ness said you need to wear a costume to be a superhero.
Then good point. Any theory that involves Liam Neeson not being a superhero is clearly ******* wrong.
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I can't believe we're using wikipedia as a legitimate source.
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Yeah, but Ness said you need to wear a costume to be a superhero.
Ness says a lot of things.

And that movie is awesome. Liam Neeson just goes alpha on the entire god damn operation.
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Ness says a lot of things.

And that movie is awesome. Liam Neeson just goes alpha on the entire god damn operation.
I know he does. That's why I feel it's up to us to let him know when his opinions are wrong. This way he can learn and fix them.

Taken is one of my favorite action movies of all time. Like Shoot Em Up it's just perfectly over the top awesome.
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I know he does. That's why I feel it's up to us to let him know when his opinions are wrong. This way he can learn and fix them.
If you're talking about his character in that film then no. And it isn't just because he isn't wearing a costume. You should re-read my opinion on what I said. Those characters are completely different.

I'm not sure if you're just being an asshole as per usual or if you're actually this stupid. Again, there is no law that says X, Y, and Z have to be in place in order to qualify as a superhero. It's a fictional circumstance left up to personal interpretation.
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