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Old 08-10-2012, 04:06 PM    (permalink
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so it wasnt a knee injury for BIshop, but a hamstring injury. Sounds like he tore it and the Packers fear he'll miss a significant portion/perhaps all of the season

wonderful. 1 preseason game in and they already lose one of their best defensive players for the season. More snaps for AJ Hawk now. Woo hoo!
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That is ******* ********! Why couldn't it have been AJ Hawk?!
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For reference, Clifton had only a partial hamstring tear last season and missed 10 weeks. Sounds like Bishop's hamstring injury is worse than that

haven't seen an update on House's shoulder injury, yet.
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I'm not shocked. They probably saw how average Starks looked and wanted to add another average back to give him some competition. One of Starks, Saine and Green will have to be dropped, though.
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Seems more like a move to just bring in a sure/solid option at the position. Starks continues to mightily struggle with blitz pickups, Green is returning from a torn ACL so they probably want to take it easy with his workload, and Saine is simply too green/unproven to rely heavily upon this season. With Benson in the fold, they have a sure fallback option as a starter if Starks continues to underwhelm. Simply won't see the field if you can't pick up the blitz and block. Can't have Rodgers taking hard hits because of the RB failing to pick up the blitz and getting a body on his guy
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Good pickup by the packers.

Everything Starks does, Benson does better. He's not going to add much to the passing game but neither will Starks. He'll lose a couple fumbles, so will Starks. He will do a better job pass protecting and overall is a more consistent and reliable runner than Starks.

I'd expect Starks to get dropped at this point. He's always been lazy and likely won't react well to effectively being replaced or at least pushed very hard. And really, what would be the point of keeping him around? He'll be a nuisance who brings very little to the table. Frankly, dropping him and signing Grant would be a superior option if we want to cut Saine that badly (which I doubt.)

Green will be the 3rd down back and see lots of reps, which is fantastic considering he's (hopefully) our future at the position.

Saine will likely spell both of them.

Good move.

House early news sounds decent. He looks to have huge potential, so let's keep our fingers crossed.

Bishops is probably gone. I disagree that it's a significant downgrade to D.J. Williams, however, as I think he has a lot of potential. What IS a significant downgrade is that this move really promotes Hawk, who was likely going to get a backup role, into the starting lineup again. Now THAT is a huge downgrade.
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Pro football talk reports House will be out 2-3 weeks while he trys to rehab his shoulder after that he wail be re evaluated too see if he needs surgery or if he can continue to play with a sling on his shoulder.
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I talked to Bob McGinn today and got a few thoughts from him about the team

-He said the loss of Bishop is such a hard hit because outside of being an impactful player on the field, he had really emerged as a leader and someone who was willing to make his voice heard

-rookie Terrell Manning looks slow out there and has been unimpressive in camp...Capers feels his role inside in the 3-4 is similar to the role he played at WLB for NC State so that's concerning even for a rookie

-Mike Daniels is just returning from injury but he has shown a great burst and quickness for a stout, down lineman...he went as far to say that Daniels could very well end up being better than Worthy (Worthy shows promise but he's not shown to be a discipline player)
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If House has to miss significant time, it will be another big loss for our defense.
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Man, already with the injuries.. then again, the last time we thought a season was doomed by injuries we won a Super Bowl.

Bishop hurts and the House injury might hurt just as much. Remember, Tramon struggled while playing with a shoulder injury last year.

It's also important to remember, however, that while Bishop was a very good defensive leader and a hard hitter he wasn't exactly a top-tier MLB. He struggled last year and didn't rate out very well in most advanced metrics. The biggest hit from his injury is Hawk keeping his job. THAT hurts quite a bit.

I'm nervous about our safety situation as well. No one has stood out to me. McMillian is probably the best of the pack right now and he's bound to get burned in coverage while he picks up the NFL game.

I still feel like a healthy Tramon, Woodson, Heywards, Bush is a very good CB group and if House is able to recover quickly from this injury, it's an extremely promising group.
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I've said that this was my favorite pick in the draft considering value and position. Really excited that he's impressing in camp. We really need depth at DL.
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James Starks might be out for a couple weeks with a turf toe injury

Greg Jennings is still feeling effects from his concussion

Benson signing is official
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I really like the Benson pick up. He gives us a ligitimate threat at the rb position. He's rushed over 1000 yards the last 3 years soo let's hope he can keep that up.
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I really like the Benson pick up. He gives us a ligitimate threat at the rb position. He's rushed over 1000 yards the last 3 years soo let's hope he can keep that up.
He wont get enough carries in this offense.
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The Benson signing is terrific. From the sounds of it, he took a minimum salary, got no bonus, and isn't guaranteed any money. I hope he is hungry, because he does have skill to make some impact on the Packers roster.


I wanted to also mention one of the things PrinceFielder said about Terrell Manning. He is SOOOOO Slow......watching he and Dezman Moses doing Special Teams drills, it was a battle for who could be slower. Atleast with Moses, he is strong and can move people. Manning has been very unimpressive.
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The Benson signing is terrific. From the sounds of it, he took a minimum salary, got no bonus, and isn't guaranteed any money. I hope he is hungry, because he does have skill to make some impact on the Packers roster.


I wanted to also mention one of the things PrinceFielder said about Terrell Manning. He is SOOOOO Slow......watching he and Dezman Moses doing Special Teams drills, it was a battle for who could be slower. Atleast with Moses, he is strong and can move people. Manning has been very unimpressive.
This is disappointing news on Manning. Granted...I only saw him play once, but what I saw in that game gave me some hope that he could be a contributor.
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Apparently McCarthy said this is the most banged up hes seen this team in TC before. WTF how can this happen every year it seems. We rack up a billion injuries. I hate bringing that up because its like beating a dead horse but we have very fragile players it seems. Collins hit never looked like much and his career is over. Neal hurts himself on a dummy and other guys have just ran and blown knees out.. The water up there must be no good.
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It's been a somber couple of pages here in the Packers forums so let's have a look at the bright side; aka, ten things I am looking forward to this year (in no particular order.)


1. Aaron Rodgers continuing to forge his legacy. I think Rodgers goes into this year with a better group of offensive players than last, which is definitely saying something. A couple players I really expect to raise their level of play this year and really contribute are Randall Cobb and Alex Green. I genuinely believe Cobb will near the 1,000 yard mark this year and Green will give us the backfield catching threat we lost when Jackson left.

2. Defensive rookies! This is one of the most exciting crops of rookies I've ever seen us have, right up there with the Clay and Raji draft of a few years ago. Heyward, Perry and Worthy are all slotted as starters (more or less) for the moment and Daniels will likely play a role as well, with McMillian also having a shot at a starting job.

3. Clay Matthews. I feel like he's going to have more opportunity to showcase his playmaking this year with a much improved front seven and will make a push for DPotY.

4. Offensive scheme. This kind of goes back to #1 but I think we'll have a very exciting offensive scheme this year. I think we're toying with creative ways to use Cobb and Green out of the backfield and I desperately want us to line up with Cobb, Green and Kuhn behind Rodgers. How confusing would that be to defenses?

5. Success. Last year we went 15-1 with a maligned defense. There's really little chance we have such a poor defense again as we've incredibly filled out the depth and competition at several spots. Safety and MLB are the most glaring holes right now but I expect Woodson to see lots of time at safety and if A.J. Hawk is the worst starter on our team I'm not terribly concerned.

6. The D-Line. I LOVE this group. It's deep and competitive with high energy players. Raji should get plenty of rest and round back into pro bowl form because of it. Our rookies are high energy impact players. Hargrove is really underrated and will be a fantastic guy to bring on fresh halfway through the year when people start hurting. A weakspot last year will turn into a strength.

7. Revenge. Also ties back to #1 but Rodgers doesn't let things go. It's going to be fun watching him shred the NFL this year and I feel like come playoffs there might be a magical run waiting.

8. Being underrated. For whatever reason (ie.. playoff loss) people are going to underrate the Packers this year. I fully expect the Patriots, Eagles, Giants and Saints to get most of the talk this year for varying reasons. Last year we had a ton of hype and it got annoying, should be a quieter media year for us.

9. Battle-tested. It's a rather tough first 6 games for us, I think. 49ers, Saints, Texans, Bears are all very likely playoff teams this year. The Seahawks are likely a fringe team as well. And hey, we've had letdowns against rookie QBs before. We'll have a very good feel for the team after these six games.

10. Where are the QBs?! By my count we only have 4 games against elite QBs. (Saints, Giants, Lions twice.) Six if you count Cutler (which I definitely do not.) That's a fantastic setup for a great record.
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most of the injuries are just the usual bumps and bruises that they get during the season. It's training camp right now though so no need to play through it

the only injuries that are of concern are obviously Bishop, who is probably done for the year so that's that. House will be re-evaluated in 2-3 weeks and hopefully won't need surgery at that point

everything else is sprained ankles, sore muscles, etc. I'm not too concerned about the Jennings and Finley concussions yet. They are still out but there is plenty of time before the season starts
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TJ Lang has been resigned according to profootballtalk. No word on details yet besides its a 4 yr extension.
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Things I'm looking forward see in tns game.

1. The starting offence get sum points on the board. Marshall newhouse is back solo hopefully A rod has better protection they he did In the first game.

2. How the defence looks without Bishop. Especially Smith who's taking Bishops spot, I thought he played pretty good last year when he came in.

3. Who's gonna step up in the secondary with house hurt too.

4. All r running backs r hurt too so I'm excited to see green play.

5. And finally how Harrell plays can we really count on this guy to be our back up.
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I really like the Benson pick up. He gives us a ligitimate threat at the rb position. He's rushed over 1000 yards the last 3 years soo let's hope he can keep that up.
Benson is not going to get 1,000 yards in this offense, However, Benson does have some gas left in the tank and should give our run offense some power.
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Things I'm looking forward see in tns game.

1. The starting offence get sum points on the board. Marshall newhouse is back solo hopefully A rod has better protection they he did In the first game.

2. How the defence looks without Bishop. Especially Smith who's taking Bishops spot, I thought he played pretty good last year when he came in.

3. Who's gonna step up in the secondary with house hurt too.

4. All r running backs r hurt too so I'm excited to see green play.

5. And finally how Harrell plays can we really count on this guy to be our back up.
I think I might have a brain aneurism after trying to read this post.
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Wait, we lost 35-10 to the Browns?

And i'm reading about more injuries? What's up with Jennings?
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