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Old 08-17-2012, 11:07 PM    (permalink) 
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So wait, instead of punishing the player and indirectly hurting the team & fans; we should just directly & severely punish the team and fans?
You're right it would punish teams. It should. Teams should take more responsibility for their players. I know they could easily be doing it at home in a dark room, but I really find it hard to believe that teams don't know who's using and who isn't.

The ultimate point is to make players like that completely undesirable, which is an indirect effect of it.

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So the team is punished by getting the first pick in the draft?
I didn't think of that :/
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I can't believe the Pirates won by scoring on two wild pitches.
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Ah **** I didn't know that. Thanks for making my night a little worse. Asshole.
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You're right it would punish teams. It should. Teams should take more responsibility for their players. I know they could easily be doing it at home in a dark room, but I really find it hard to believe that teams don't know who's using and who isn't.

The ultimate point is to make players like that completely undesirable, which is an indirect effect of it.
It's also insanely ******* stupid, it's taking a PED, not raping someone or murdering a bunch of puppies. Chill the **** out.
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I'm going to visit Texas to watch the Giants kick the Cowboys ass. I'd rather go to Austin though.
We should go to a Rangers game! Also, you can sleep on my couch if need be.

That said, Matt Cain > your favorite pitcher.
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We should go to a Rangers game! Also, you can sleep on my couch if need be.

That said, Matt Cain > your favorite pitcher.
I have a place to stay but maybe 1 night you could bring me out. I'm looking for airfare for 300.

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Ah **** I didn't know that. Thanks for making my night a little worse. Asshole.
Anything I can do to help, buddy.
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alright just looking at what I expect the writers will look at

Wade Miley 13-8, 2.96 ERA, 143 IP, 104 K, 26 BB, 6.55 K/9, 1.71 BB/9, 3.81 K/BB
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Todd Frazier .283/.342/.536, 15 HR, 49 RBI, 19 2b, 5 3b, 2/4 SB

I'd still pick Miley
Yes but Frazier is essentially carrying a team that's still actually relevant, so there's that.
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Yes but Frazier is essentially carrying a team that's still actually relevant, so there's that.
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Oh hey look, its Todd Frazier.
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Oh hey look, its Todd Frazier.
I always believed. Didn't think he'd get 20+ HR's in his rookie year though.
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Terrible call at first. Rizzo with a great acting job.

I didn't think he would either. The only danger to that is Votto's return and Baker playing Rolen over him.
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Terrible call at first. Rizzo with a great acting job.

I didn't think he would either. The only danger to that is Votto's return and Baker playing Rolen over him.
That would just be one of the dumbest things Baker has ever done which is really saying something.
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So when Votto returns, does Frazier take over for Rolen at 3B or what?
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So when Votto returns, does Frazier take over for Rolen at 3B or what?
should he? yes
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Shortstop bats 1st or 2nd. Duh.
I'm sure Dusty Baker has some logic there...
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I'm sure Dusty Baker has some logic there...
Its just how it is.

Oh and Miguel Cairo has largely been useless. Decides today is the day to play baseball.
Hits a HR in the first game and a triple to plate Jay Bruce to help the rally. 8-7 bottom of 8.
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Its just how it is.

Oh and Miguel Cairo has largely been useless. Decides today is the day to play baseball.
Hits a HR in the first game and a triple to plate Jay Bruce to help the rally. 8-7 bottom of 8.
Sounds like you've admitted defeat. And Cairo has one good game a year, enjoy it.
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Sounds like you've admitted defeat. And Cairo has one good game a year, enjoy it.
ha, its a double header! so two!
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