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Old 08-21-2012, 12:04 AM    (permalink
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Taylor Lewan is an easy choice. I'll go with Cyrus Kouandjio as my other choice.
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1st team:
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Taylor Lewan, Michigan

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Morgan Moses, Virginia

2 OGs next, probably gonna go to 5 for G and C.
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Can we just vote all three positions on one ballot? Would expedite things.

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Jonathan Cooper

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Sure throw in center too.

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Chance ******* Warmack, Alabama
Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina

C
Mario Benavides, Louisville

Frederick is playing center I think tackle.
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