Fantasy Football Discussion Thread - Page 107

tjsunstein · 08-27-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

10 team, non ppr

QB RB RB WR WR TE W/R D/ST K

QB Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck
RB Maurice Jones-Drew, Jamaal Charles, Michael Turner, Cedric Benson, Donald Brown, Ryan Williams, Rashad Jennings
WR Brandon Lloyd, Demaryius Thomas, Torrey Smith, Titus Young, Justin Blackmon
TE Antonio Gates
D/ST 49ers
K

This team is going to ball. Useful bench players, studs at 2 positions (maybe 3 if you consider Gates) , upside at WR. Yeah, nice.

Justone2 · 08-27-2012, 09:22 AM

10 team no PPR

QB,HB,HB,WR,WR,WR,TE,D/ST,K

QB: Philip Rivers, Josh Freeman
HB: Adrian Peterson, Frank Gore, DeAngelo Williams, CJ Spiller
WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Greg Jennings, Miles Austin, Robert Meachem, Randy Moss
TE: Jimmy Graham, Kyle Rudolph

D/ST: Texans
K: John Kasay

ATLDirtyBirds · 08-27-2012, 09:35 AM

Think I'll probably do one more 12 man league tonight. Thoughts on PPR vs Non? Anyone want to try and get one started with some DC guys?

thetedginnshow · 08-27-2012, 09:49 AM

Depending on what time you're drafting, I'd be down! I'd be fine with PPR or regular.

FlyingElvis · 08-27-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Goosemahn

Alright, had my draft today, have another one soon, want some thoughts on how my team wound up. It was an 8 man league, PPR, and I was drafting third.

QB Aaron Rodgers, GB
WR Julio Jones, ATL
WR Jordy Nelson, GB
WR Dez Bryant, DAL
RB Fred Jackson, BUF
RB Marshawn Lynch, SEA
TE Jermichael Finley, GB
FLEX Darren Sproles, NO

BN QB Andrew Luck, IND
BN WR Reggie Wayne, IND
BN WR Kenny Britt, TEN
BN WR Titus Young, DET
BN RB Kevin Smith, DET
BN TE Kyle Rudolph, MIN

K David Akers, SF

DEF San Francisco

D D'Qwell Jackson, CLE
DL Jared Allen, MIN
DB George Wilson, BUF

Strategy:
I wanted Rodgers for sure, so I'm glad I got him. I decided to go with WRs early on, but my PC disconnected and got Marshawn Lynch instead of Victor Cruz. Sproles was a PPR machine last year, so I was happy to get him.

Should I keep Lynch, or swap him? I've already got a trade offer (Wayne + Lynch for DeMarco Murray).

DO NOT DO THIS TRADE!

Reggie Wayne will be a solid weekly start. His value is astoundingly low right now and you're giving him away in a RB swap that is even if not for the suspension cloud over Lynch.

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Originally Posted by bearfan

Bump on this:

Just did a 10 person draft today, plz give some feed back as I may have another 10 person draft next weekend. Picked 4th:

QB: A. Rodgers (1)
RB: M. Lynch (2), A. Peterson (3), B. Green-Ellis (7), K. Smith, Ryan Williams
WR: Nicks (4), Colston (5), S. Johnson (6), R. Wayne (8), R. Meachem, B. Quick (last)
TE: J. Cook
K: Gould
D/ST: Giants

Let me know!

Solid. Not selecting Gerhart is a mistake, though. I'd drop Quick for him.

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Originally Posted by TheBoyWonder22

So I was going to move Peyton Manning and Miles Austin for a RB. What tier of guy should I expect in return?

I agree w/Mufasa and would recommend you wait. You're selling low on both guys with their respective injury concerns.

ATLDirtyBirds · 08-27-2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thetedginnshow

Depending on what time you're drafting, I'd be down! I'd be fine with PPR or regular.

I'm looking in the 7-830 EST range. Even if we don't create a league, I'll post a link to the one I'm going to join.

FlyingElvis · 08-27-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

Rank these running backs...

DeMarco Murray, Steven Jackson, Marshawn Lynch, Trent Richardson

Everyone has Lynch pretty much as a top 15 selection, but I'm having a tough time seperating him from Steven Jackson, why is he going so much higher than Steven? Jackson is as constistent as they come and looks as good as ever this preseason.

Not sure if it's my Rams love or Seahawks hate getting in the way or a little of both, just trying to understand why there's been so much support for Lynch.

Murray
Lynch
Jackson
Trent

I will say that I am notoriously hard on rookie RBs as top 30 players. They have too much to learn in pass-pro and typically lose touches there and there's always the "rookie wall" to worry about. Add Richardson's injury to that and I think people are making a huge mistake taking him prior to round 3/4.

I like Jackson as a 're-featured feature back on a Fisher team, but it's tough to take him over the younger guy behind a better oline (Lynch) or the younger guy with higher upside (Murray.) I will say that I'd lump Lynch/Jackson/Richardson very close together and call it a pick your poison type of selection, though. Lynch got paid and is an idiot who currently only has speculation on his side in regards to suspension. Trent - mentioned already. Jackson . . . I love him, tbh, and have man-crush colored glasses on most of the time. lol

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Originally Posted by saintsfan912

Picked 7th. No ppr. 12 teams

QB - Matt Ryan - 4th
HB - Reggie Bush - 5th
HB - Issac Redman - 7th
WR - Calvin Johnson - 1st
WR - Jordy Nelson - 3rd
Flex - Titus Young - 6th
TE - Rob Gronkowski - 2nd
K - Matt Prater - 15th
DEF - Seahawks - 13th

Joe Flacco - 10th
Mark Ingram - 8th
Rashad Jennings - 9th
Anquan Boldin - 11th
Coby Fleener - 12th
Brandon Lafell - 14th

Should I worry about my HB situation or just go with it?

Worry. And/or hope MJD follows the typical trajectory of a long holdout RB. I doubt you haev a ton to choose from on the wire, though. What RBs are available? Carrying Lafell and Fleener is completely unnecessary right now, and possibly Flacco, though I like him.

scottyboy · 08-27-2012, 10:15 AM

hey TJ and Flying Elvis (since you guys talked most about my situation before), thoughts on what I came away with? Ended up with Graham round 1, couldn't pass him up and RB's there were kinda weak.

QB: Cam
WR Eric Decker
WR: Brandon Lloyd
WR: Sidney Rice
RB: Fred Jackson
RB: Jonathan Stewart
TE: Jimmy Graham
Flex: Ben Tate
Super Flex: Russel Wilson

bench:
Ronnie Hillman
Ronnie Brown
Earl Bennett
John Skelton
Laurent Robinson
Sanu
Isiah Pead
Heath Miller
Taiwan Jones

along with a bunch of IDP's. Did 3 fantasy drafts today. 5 straight hours. ******* exhausted. But yeah, here it is. I'm pretty meh on it

mdmgrand · 08-27-2012, 10:25 AM

After all my trades to stock up on third rounders my team ended up like this

10 Team PPR League

QB - Cam Newton
RB - Darren McFadden
RB - Steven Jackson
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Percy Harvin
TE - Greg Olsen
Flex - Trent Richardson
D/ST - Steelers
K - Rob Bironas

Bench
QB - Jay Cutler
QB - Carson Palmer
RB - DeAngelo Williams
RB - Rashad Jennings
WR - Robert Meachem
WR - Greg Little
TE - Jermaine Gresham
IR - Kenny Britt (will drop Gresham or one of the QB's when he returns)

tjsunstein · 08-27-2012, 10:27 AM

Scotty, if I'm not mistaken, this is a 14 team league correct?

I'm assuming AD, DMC, and Calvin were off the board at the time and I really don't hate your choice with Graham. It's a PPR league which makes Graham a more sensible option. Good pick. Everything else looks good Scotty, but I get to Jonathan Stewart and I really, really worry. He's the weakest link in your lineup. He's injured, Cam's taking a lot of goal line carries, Olsen is supposedly in an expanded role, I just have a hard time seeing the upside with him. Someone is going to have to breakthrough on your bench or on the waiver wire. Rice is going to be replaced in your lineup in due time and I think you know that. Cam and Graham is a very very good 1-2 in a 14 teamer though.

I'm meh on it as well, but I don't typically know what to expect from 14 teamers. This looks pretty solid.

tjsunstein · 08-27-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mdmgrand

After all my trades to stock up on third rounders my team ended up like this

10 Team PPR League

QB - Cam Newton
RB - Darren McFadden
RB - Steven Jackson
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Percy Harvin
TE - Greg Olsen
Flex - Trent Richardson
D/ST - Steelers
K - Rob Bironas

Bench
QB - Jay Cutler
QB - Carson Palmer
RB - DeAngelo Williams
RB - Rashad Jennings
WR - Robert Meachem
WR - Greg Little
TE - Jermaine Gresham
IR - Kenny Britt (will drop Gresham or one of the QB's when he returns)

Your starting lineup is very, very good. I'm tempering my expectations for Richardson but a lot of people love him. I would have went a different route. Harvin/Jones is a strong WR corp. Olsen is a nice TE to have this year. DeAngelo looks like a better pick with Stewart's injury.

Newton and Cutler are sufficient enough for a 10 teamer, Carson is a waste of a roster spot, imo.

You'll contend but keep an eye on that waiver wire.

scottyboy · 08-27-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tjsunstein

Scotty, if I'm not mistaken, this is a 14 team league correct?

I'm assuming AD, DMC, and Calvin were off the board at the time and I really don't hate your choice with Graham. It's a PPR league which makes Graham a more sensible option. Good pick. Everything else looks good Scotty, but I get to Jonathan Stewart and I really, really worry. He's the weakest link in your lineup. He's injured, Cam's taking a lot of goal line carries, Olsen is supposedly in an expanded role, I just have a hard time seeing the upside with him. Someone is going to have to breakthrough on your bench or on the waiver wire. Rice is going to be replaced in your lineup in due time and I think you know that. Cam and Graham is a very very good 1-2 in a 14 teamer though.

I'm meh on it as well, but I don't typically know what to expect from 14 teamers. This looks pretty solid.

yeah, 14 teamers are tough. J-Stew was a fairly late-ish pick so I took a flyer on him...then he gets hurt. Rice was a late flyer too. Hoping Russ-Cam-Graham-Decker-Lloyd can carry me for the most part. fred Jackson hopefully can hold off Spiller this year and hopefully repeat last year. We'll just have to see how it goes.

Absolutely dominated the other 10 man leagues I was in. One of them I ended up with Stafford-DMC-Forte-Nicks-Harvin

thetedginnshow · 08-27-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ATLDirtyBirds

I'm looking in the 7-830 EST range. Even if we don't create a league, I'll post a link to the one I'm going to join.

That would be perfect time-wise for me. It would be cool if we could get all DC guys though. I will ask around.

EDIT: Figured this would be easier. http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/...11#post3100111

FlyingElvis · 08-27-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by scottyboy

hey TJ and Flying Elvis (since you guys talked most about my situation before), thoughts on what I came away with? Ended up with Graham round 1, couldn't pass him up and RB's there were kinda weak.

QB: Cam
WR Eric Decker
WR: Brandon Lloyd
WR: Sidney Rice
RB: Fred Jackson
RB: Jonathan Stewart
TE: Jimmy Graham
Flex: Ben Tate
Super Flex: Russel Wilson

bench:
Ronnie Hillman
Ronnie Brown
Earl Bennett
John Skelton
Laurent Robinson
Sanu
Isiah Pead
Heath Miller
Taiwan Jones

along with a bunch of IDP's. Did 3 fantasy drafts today. 5 straight hours. ******* exhausted. But yeah, here it is. I'm pretty meh on it

I can understand being pretty meh on it. I'd say it's very clear that the Graham selection really hurt you're RB core, and I'm curious what the weak RB options were. I really like Fred, and nothing from Bills camp has suggested Spiller is a threat. I have actually come back around to RB/RB, tbh, because getting non-RBBC options is much tougher than filling out a roster at TE/WR nowadays. I'm also curious what you passed up at QB in many of these rounds since you can start two.

I think both Stewart and DWill are undervalued. Stewart in PPR should be solid for you so I actually like him alot for your cost. Depth is always a concern (especially in 14 team w/lots of starting spots) but you look really thin. You've got upside on the bench, but nobody I'd want to start and Rice/Tate are both pretty rough in the starting lineup as it is. IDK . . . maybe I'll do a 14 team mock just to test the waters, but this team seems really thin to me.

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Originally Posted by mdmgrand

After all my trades to stock up on third rounders my team ended up like this

10 Team PPR League

QB - Cam Newton
RB - Darren McFadden
RB - Steven Jackson
WR - Julio Jones
WR - Percy Harvin
TE - Greg Olsen
Flex - Trent Richardson
D/ST - Steelers
K - Rob Bironas

Bench
QB - Jay Cutler
QB - Carson Palmer
RB - DeAngelo Williams
RB - Rashad Jennings
WR - Robert Meachem
WR - Greg Little
TE - Jermaine Gresham
IR - Kenny Britt (will drop Gresham or one of the QB's when he returns)

A solid group. Evidence that applying the Bill Belichick Drafting Handbook to the Fantasy Football realm makes sense. I also recommend cutting Palmer for . . . well, just about anything.

thule · 08-27-2012, 11:26 AM

14 team - ppr - all TD's 6pts

QB - Romo
RB - McFadden
WR - Welker
WR - Dez
WR - Torrey Smith
TE - Tamme
K - Gould
Def- 49ers

Bench
CJ Spiller
Jon Baldwin
Dustin Keller
Cobb
McCluster
Locker

What do you think?

killxswitch · 08-27-2012, 11:33 AM

I'm having some position ranking issues this year. Especially at RB. Anyone want to recommend a site (or even email me their Excel files!)?

Docta · 08-27-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by thule

14 team - ppr - all TD's 6pts

QB - Romo
RB - McFadden
WR - Welker
WR - Dez
WR - Torrey Smith
TE - Tamme
K - Gould
Def- 49ers

Bench
CJ Spiller
Jon Baldwin
Dustin Keller
Cobb
McCluster
Locker

What do you think?

Don't know about Tamme as your starting TE. I think Dreesen has been targeted more by Peyton. Your bench is mediocre. I believe Spiller and Cobb will have breakout years, but you're taking a lot of risk.

And @killswitch: http://fantasypros.com

princefielder28 · 08-27-2012, 11:59 AM

12 team league

QB :: Peyton Manning
RB :: LeSean McCoy
RB :: Doug Martin
WR :: Jordy Nelson
WR :: Brandon Marshall
WR :: Titus Young
TE :: Aaron Hernandez
K :: Alex Henery
DEF :: Seattle Seahawks

Bench

Robert Griffin III
Cedric Benson
Ben Tate
Jahvid Best
Kendall Wright
Owen Daniels

Thoughts???

tjsunstein · 08-27-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by killxswitch

I'm having some position ranking issues this year. Especially at RB. Anyone want to recommend a site (or even email me their Excel files!)?

How many do you want ranked? I could post mine here, it'd make for better discussion. Standard or PPR?

killxswitch · 08-27-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tjsunstein

How many do you want ranked? I could post mine here, it'd make for better discussion. Standard or PPR?

PPR. 12 man and 16 (ugh) man leagues.

Rob S · 08-27-2012, 01:14 PM

What is the ideal pick in a ten teamer for you guys? I just landed the number one pick in my work league and pretty much everyone is open to swapping drafts with me. I'm thinking of maybe swapping with 3 or 4, but idk.....Arian foster is just a cut above when healthy.

tjsunstein · 08-27-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob S

What is the ideal pick in a ten teamer for you guys? I just landed the number one pick in my work league and pretty much everyone is open to swapping drafts with me. I'm thinking of maybe swapping with 3 or 4, but idk.....Arian foster is just a cut above when healthy.

4. You get Rice, McCoy, Foster, Rodgers/Brady and have a higher pick on the way back around than you would at 1 without dropoff in talent in the first round.

I also dont like b2b picks and the 18 picks in between, too much happens.

Giantsfan1080 · 08-27-2012, 01:22 PM

10 team 1 keeper (Rice) .5 PPR 1 flex Rb/Wr/Te:

QB Cam Newton
QB Matt Schaub
RB Ray Rice
RB Doug Martin
RB Shonn Greene
RB Ryan Williams
WR Wes Welker
WR Jordy Nelson
WR Percy Harvin
WR Reggie Wayne
WR Titus Young
WR Desean Jackson
TE Jermaine Gresham
TE Kyle Rudolph
DEF Seattle Seahwaks
K Dan Bailey

FlyingElvis · 08-27-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

12 team league

QB :: Peyton Manning
RB :: LeSean McCoy
RB :: Doug Martin
WR :: Jordy Nelson
WR :: Brandon Marshall
WR :: Titus Young
TE :: Aaron Hernandez
K :: Alex Henery
DEF :: Seattle Seahawks

Bench

Robert Griffin III
Cedric Benson
Ben Tate
Jahvid Best
Kendall Wright
Owen Daniels

Thoughts???

Solid team overall. That WR3 spot could be trouble, as Young is all hype until proven otherwise and Wright is not even hype yet. I'd drop Best - there's just no reason at all to carry him. Add best WR available or maybe a handcuff - especially if Blount is on the wire.

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Originally Posted by thule

14 team - ppr - all TD's 6pts

QB - Romo
RB - McFadden
WR - Welker
WR - Dez
WR - Torrey Smith
TE - Tamme
K - Gould
Def- 49ers

Bench
CJ Spiller
Jon Baldwin
Dustin Keller
Cobb
McCluster
Locker

What do you think?

Very good. Obvious concern is TE. Peyton/Tamme are hyped too much for my tastes, though that doesn't preclude it from actually happening the way people want to believe. I see a fairly split production for Tamme/Dreessen and would not be surprised if Dreessen saw more action over the course of the season.

Keller . . . I don't see it. The Jets are just a mess. I suppose there's a chance he is the defacto #1 pass catcher and has garbage points late in games that make him a playable ppr option. For me, that's not a scenario I'm all that comfortable with, especially when it means carrying a second TE.

FlyingElvis · 08-27-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob S

What is the ideal pick in a ten teamer for you guys? I just landed the number one pick in my work league and pretty much everyone is open to swapping drafts with me. I'm thinking of maybe swapping with 3 or 4, but idk.....Arian foster is just a cut above when healthy.

Unless you can gauge what someone wants and be sure they're not sniping your guy OR you get something silly in a trade offer, I wouldn't trade it.

Draft Foster.