Russell Wilson named Seattle Week 1 starter

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

I still contend Mike Vick's draft year was a fluke. He would not have been the consensus 1/1 pick for every team in the league. Vick was drafted almost strictly on tools and potential, and over a decade later NFL fans are still waiting for him to realize that enormous physical ability.

i fail to see what B has to do with A. he was by a massive margin the most physically gifted qb prospect ever. his arm strength was/is incredible. his speed AND quickness was unmatched by nearly anyone at any position in the league, let alone at qb. every knock on him was something potentially fixable.

If you want your QB to lead his position in rushing for most of his career, Vick is your man. But he NEVER developed as a passer until he was released from the Fed and tutored under Andy Reid.

this again has absolutely nothing to do with him as a prospect.

IMO Vick would not have been taken before Carson Palmer, Eli, Philip Rivers, Leinart, Cutler, Jamarcus Russell, Stafford, Bradford, Newton, Luck or RGIII if he had been available in the same draft these former 1st rounders were taken.

he would've been taken over every single one on the basis of his potential. matt leinart? really?

I tend to believe NFL scouting is more sophisticated than it was in 2001 when it comes to evaluating the QB position.

see: jamarcus russell.

Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

I'm curious what better 'intangibles' Brees had over Wilson coming out of college.

that was my fault, i was typing too early. i didn't mean intangibles in the standard nfl draft sense, where they're almost 'tangibles' at this point. however, brees was tremendously better in the pocket. yes, wilson is more athletic. but even with, iirc, a far better offensive line, he just wasn't as good at moving within the pocket and relied more on being able to get outside the pocket. brees had better 'zip' on his passes. i don't know if their deep ball arm strength is functionally different, but brees threw a better short ball. i think brees generally did a far better job of reading through progressions, even if they started off simplified in his offense. *shrug*

i should note that none of this is to say that i think wilson is bad or a bust or anything else along those lines. but he was picked in the 4th round for a reason, and to suggest that he was on par with a qb who should've gone in the first (no hindsight, at the time i thought drew brees falling was a travesty, only to see it happen again with rodgers) as a prospect is ridiculous. brees was simply a better prospect.