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2013 Underrated NFL Prospects Thread
QB Mike Glennon NC State
QB Tajh Boyd Clemson
RB Andre Ellington Clemson
RB Kenjon Barner Oregon
WR Mike Davis Texas
WR Kenny Stills Oklahoma
WR DeAndre Hopkins Clemson
CB Dee Milliner Alabama
CB Micah Hyde Iowa
CB Desmond Trufant Washington
S Bacarri Rambo Georgia
S Vaughn Telemaque Miami (FL)
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts
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08-30-2012, 07:56 PM
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Where do you think those players are being slotted currently, and where do you think they would go?
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08-30-2012, 08:04 PM
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Khaseem Greene OLB Rutgers- Former safety who flies around the field and can deliver knock out blows. Lead the Big East in tackles and was 12th in the nation last year. Perfect fit for the weak side of a Tampa Two or any other 4-3 scheme that covets speedy linebackers.
I think at this point scouts have him as a mid third round value, but I would but him at a high 2nd round / low 1st round talent.
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08-31-2012, 06:27 PM
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Where do you think those players are being slotted currently, and where do you think they would go?
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Originally Posted by shylo3716
QB Mike Glennon NC State Rank #79 pos #10
QB Tajh Boyd Clemson pos #10 class 2014
RB Andre Ellington Clemson Rank #89 pos #6
RB Kenjon Barner Oregon Rank #211 pos #18
WR Mike Davis Texas pos #17 class 2014
WR Kenny Stills Oklahoma Rank #151 pos #18
WR DeAndre Hopkins Clemson pos #13 class 2014
CB Dee Milliner Alabama Rank #47 pos #5
CB Micah Hyde Iowa Rank #93 pos #9
CB Desmond Trufant Washington Rank #168 pos #20
S Bacarri Rambo Georgia Rank #118 pos #5
S Vaughn Telemaque Miami (FL) Rank #373 pos #19
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I added the rankings from cbssports.com
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Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown
The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts
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09-01-2012, 06:08 PM
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I don't get Barner's appeal.
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09-01-2012, 08:13 PM
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EJ Gaines. Dude will be a monster.
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09-01-2012, 09:05 PM
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homer alert:
qb geno smith
wr stedman bailey----rsjr
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09-02-2012, 12:15 AM
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Yuck. Barner is nothing special at all:
Underrated prospects:
QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
RB Branden Oliver, Buffalo
RB Stepfan Taylor, Stanford
WR Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech
WR Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma
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09-02-2012, 11:32 AM
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homer alert:
qb geno smith
wr stedman bailey----rsjr
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I'd project him as a late 2nd early 3rd where he would be a bargain. Will be the best pro from this West Virginia offense.
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09-02-2012, 11:42 AM
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I added the rankings from cbssports.com
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Based on that list, I'd say that Glennon and Ellington are overrated, and Barner, Stills, Milliner underrated. Hyde and Rambo seem properly rated.
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09-02-2012, 03:35 PM
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Aaron Murray QB Georgia. Smart, instinctive QB, who has a quick release, strong arm, and great vision and pocket presence. Will never be brought up in the conversation as a first round pick because he is 6'1. Very accurate and athletic as well. He will be a steal. As I watch him, I keep thinking and seeing the similarities of Drew Brees. Throws a pretty nice deep ball as well.
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09-04-2012, 01:59 PM
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Aaron Murray QB Georgia. Smart, instinctive QB, who has a quick release, strong arm, and great vision and pocket presence. Will never be brought up in the conversation as a first round pick because he is 6'1. Very accurate and athletic as well. He will be a steal. As I watch him, I keep thinking and seeing the similarities of Drew Brees. Throws a pretty nice deep ball as well.
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I like Murray. Any QB under 6-2 nowadays get the Drew Brees tag (Russell Wilson) but Aaron should get some attention.
I cant believe i'm saying anything nice about an Oregon Duck but Kiko Alonso should get some serious notice if he can keep his nose clean.
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09-04-2012, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BrabbitMcRabbit
Yuck. Barner is nothing special at all:
Underrated prospects:
QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
RB Branden Oliver, Buffalo
RB Stepfan Taylor, Stanford
WR Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech
WR Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma
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Saunders isn't eligible to play this year.
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09-04-2012, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bucfan12
Aaron Murray QB Georgia. Smart, instinctive QB, who has a quick release, strong arm, and great vision and pocket presence. Will never be brought up in the conversation as a first round pick because he is 6'1. Very accurate and athletic as well. He will be a steal. As I watch him, I keep thinking and seeing the similarities of Drew Brees. Throws a pretty nice deep ball as well.
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Matt Barkley is only about 6'1" and he has been a consensus first rounder for several years now; so I don't see how this is an issue with Murray.
I do agree with your comments on Murray, though....
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09-05-2012, 09:33 AM
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I like Murray. Any QB under 6-2 nowadays get the Drew Brees tag (Russell Wilson) but Aaron should get some attention.
I cant believe i'm saying anything nice about an Oregon Duck but Kiko Alonso should get some serious notice if he can keep his nose clean.
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I'm not just making the Murray to Brees comparison due to size. I just watch the style of play the instincts and the deep ball accuracy. They look extremely similar ad that's probably the best comparison.
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09-05-2012, 09:20 PM
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I'm not just making the Murray to Brees comparison due to size. I just watch the style of play the instincts and the deep ball accuracy. They look extremely similar ad that's probably the best comparison.
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This is not meant to slight Murray at all, but he reminds me a lot of Rex Grossman coming out in 2003. Very similar size and body type. Similar arm strength. Knowing what I know now about Grossman (I'm a Bears fan FWIW), I'd say Murray is more accurate, but when Grossman was in his JR year in college, he was plenty accurate himself. Rex's career can be summed up by making dumb decisions, but he's actually a very intelligent guy. Murray seems to be more mobile and an all around better athlete. That and some consistent decision making ability, will make him a better pro than Grossman, but that's what I see out of Murray. I think the Brees comparisons are a little lofty. But if a team drafts a guy that meets (or exceeds with more mobility) the expectations that Bears fans reasonably had for Grossman 8 years ago, they are getting a pretty good QB.
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09-08-2012, 04:14 PM
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DeAndre Hopkins 6 rec 105 yds 3 TDs today vs Ball State
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The most important thing, however, is how strong their swagger factors are.
Newton
South of the Mason Dixon +10 swagger
Barely literate +5 swagger
Thief +15 swagger
Kicked off of a team of thugs +20 swagger
Big, average speed -3 swagger
Hasn't done jacksquat on the field +15 swagger
Total Swagger: 62
ATL College Park Zone 3* +20 swagger Bonus pts
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What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
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09-09-2012, 08:45 PM
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DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson, EJ Gaines, Mizzou
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Here are my some of the most underrated prospects by position and where I have them ranked currently:
QB Aaron Murray, Georgia* (1)
RB Eddie Lacey, Alabama* (2-3)
WR Cobi Hamilton, Arkansas (2-3)
WR Kenny Stills, Oklahoma* (3)
OL Ricky Wagner, Wisconsin (1)
DE Jackson Jeffcoat, Texas* (1)
LB Sean Porter, Texas A&M (2)
FS Tony Jefferson, Oklahoma (2-3)
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Here are my some of the most underrated prospects by position and where I have them ranked currently:
QB Aaron Murray, Georgia* (1)
RB Eddie Lacey, Alabama* (2-3)
WR Cobi Hamilton, Arkansas (2-3)
WR Kenny Stills, Oklahoma* (3)
OL Ricky Wagner, Wisconsin (1)
DE Jackson Jeffcoat, Texas* (1)
LB Sean Porter, Texas A&M (2)
FS Tony Jefferson, Oklahoma (2-3)
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Are you saying Murray is your #1 QB?
Also, I do think people are sleeping on Stills, especially if he's the freakin 18th ranked WR on cbssports.
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Are you saying Murray is your #1 QB?
Also, I do think people are sleeping on Stills, especially if he's the freakin 18th ranked WR on cbssports.
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I probably should have explained that the numbers in parenthesis are the round in which I have them graded currently.
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Conner Vernon - WR - Duke - 3 games - 21 receptions - 280 yards - 1 TD
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What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
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Stedman Bailey - WR- WVU - 2 games - 22 receptions - 277 yards - 5 TD's
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