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Old 09-07-2012, 04:34 PM    (permalink
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Even if it is, it's still illegal by the same rules.
Rush for 1000 yards get an extra 20k = pay for performance

I get what you're saying just there's a grey area.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:37 PM    (permalink
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Keep in mind the ruling just states that Goodell doesn't have the authority to suspend on this issue. It'll go to Burbank whom will just reinstate the suspensions.

They didn't even analyze the evidence. To be quite frank the NFL could just drop the floor out from under the players and release the nitty gritty and force public outcry again.

So tired of hearing about this issue. The pay-for-performance is proven and already been released. They will be getting suspended again you'll just hear it from a different mouth. The pay-for-injury is a secondary offense despite the media covering it intensely.
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Rush for 1000 yards get an extra 20k = pay for performance

I get what you're saying just there's a grey area.
I've always wondering how they justify it. But the rules say there is a difference between paying for tackling the Vikings players and paying for get 20 tackles in a season.
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Keep in mind the ruling just states that Goodell doesn't have the authority to suspend on this issue. It'll go to Burbank whom will just reinstate the suspensions.

They didn't even analyze the evidence. To be quite frank the NFL could just drop the floor out from under the players and release the nitty gritty and force public outcry again.

So tired of hearing about this issue. The pay-for-performance is proven and already been released. They will be getting suspended again you'll just hear it from a different mouth. The pay-for-injury is a secondary offense despite the media covering it intensely.
I don't think they'll get that type of reaction this time. I can't see ESPN having months of airing it (especially now that it's Tebow-time). They'd have to have footage of them exchanging money and talking about how they celebrated when they felt the bones pop/shatter as they hit the guy.
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I've always wondering how they justify it. But the rules say there is a difference between paying for tackling the Vikings players and paying for get 20 tackles in a season.
The judge said there was evidence for pay for performance but no substantial evidence of pay for injury, which is why the suspensions were handed out to begin with.
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Off-the-books pay-for-performance is still against the rules and frowned upon by the NFL. A few years ago, they almost suspended Charles Woodson and Al Harris for a lesser version of the same offense.
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Pay for performance does not equal "Bounty". While illegal, not as horrifically bad as the NFL made this out to be. If getting some extra money for playing well gets you suspended for an entire season and have your name thrown through the mud, can't wait to see what a DUI/assault with a deadly weapon/wife beating/drug possession/ect can get you.
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Pay for performance does not equal "Bounty". While illegal, not as horrifically bad as the NFL made this out to be. If getting some extra money for playing well gets you suspended for an entire season and have your name thrown through the mud, can't wait to see what a DUI/assault with a deadly weapon/wife beating/drug possession/ect can get you.
But you agree it breaking the rules right? Yeah entire season suspension is dumb, but punishment should be handed down.

Also picking extreme examples not the best thing to compare pay for performance. but if its a first time offense probably nothing. if all those thing over a course of 2-3 years probably season long ban? Jail time as well. If they just had stopped it and not lied wouldn't all this have been put to bed a long time ago?
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But you agree it breaking the rules right? Yeah entire season suspension is dumb, but punishment should be handed down.
This is all we as fans are saying! **** went down, **** was illegal, but the punishment doesn't justify the crime.
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You mean the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
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You mean the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
I mean I have dyslexia
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I mean I have dyslexia
Sorry lol the itch gets the best of me sometimes. I try not to do it.
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Sorry lol the itch gets the best of me sometimes. I try not to do it.
Well the thing about dyslexia is what I typed sounded correct in my mind.
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It's not obvious?
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Originally Posted by raiderz4life View Post
Don't mind Caddy. He's just sour grapes.
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I don't even know what is happening in this thread. I just enjoy rustling Saints fans jimmies.
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