Dallas Cowboys Discussion

[MetSox17]

Well to be fair, you really are a tool.

[dezsucks (Bob)]

Originally Posted by MetSox17

Well to be fair, you really are a tool.

Accurate tool.

[pocketaces]

Originally Posted by MetSox17

Well to be fair, you really are a tool.

LOL Maybe #21 is in order

[dezsucks (Bob)]

I never would have imagined the Team Cheerleaders were posting on this Board.

I'd a figured they were too busy in the dressing room or practicing dance routines and not interested in the game.

[Go Cowboys]

Clearly Bob isn't the owner, so I don't know why anyone cares what he thinks.

Felix Jones: Needs to be cut and Lance Dunbar needs to be brought up from the practice squad.

We might want to start combing free agency to find bodies after today. Lot of injuries happened on defense.

You can't blame Romo (As Much as I have never been a fan of his) or the defense (Look at Time Of Possession difference) Rob Ryan is overly conservative against mobile QBs, thats the rap that he has always had. Just wait until we play RG3 twice a year. I mean Ware had 2 sacks the other day, did he even have one today?

[Witten4HOF]

Just got outworked, plain and simple. Take out the easy first half points and we still loose 14 to seven. That secondary was extemely physical and got into the heads of the WR and Witten. Nice hard clean shots all game long and tough sledding getting off the LOS. I knew Red Bryant was going to be trouble, took away the cut back all game long. I was surprised Murray didn't get more touches on swing passes after having success in the first half.

Ryan PV$$Y foots too much when facing mobile QB's, his defense is predicated on pressure and disguising where its coming from, why drop into this soft crap just because a guy can move? Press man on the outside and get after the kid, make him beat you instead of letting him nickle and dime his way down the field.

Combination of bad play calling and the inability to get off the field wore the line down and Lynch took advantage. Time of possession differential in the second half was sickening 21 min to 9.

Better watch out for Tampa Bay, as a Rutgers fan I know how Schiano works and he is as lunch pale as it gets. Expect them to come after us as hard as the Seahawks did and lets not start looking ahead to Chicago.

[MetSox17]

Originally Posted by dezsucks (Bob)

Name calling. Joy. Yet , again, no discussion on the substance. At least, Metsox did it privately today.

I usually prefer to ignore your idiotic posts, but it's hilarious that you claim that there's no substance to our discussions when you continuously spend your day bashing someone in the organization with name calling or strawmen arguments. It's pathetic, and as little of a blip your posts leave on the internet as a whole, they're still a giant waste.

[dezsucks (Bob)]

Originally Posted by MetSox17

I usually prefer to ignore your idiotic posts, but it's hilarious that you claim that there's no substance to our discussions when you continuously spend your day bashing someone in the organization with name calling or strawmen arguments. It's pathetic, and as little of a blip your posts leave on the internet as a whole, they're still a giant waste.

Please point out? I was simply stating that lackadaisical play and premature celebrations have been the hallmark of this franchise for years. And that it starts at the top.

We are one of the least successful franchises in the NFL in recent memory. Owner needs to take responsibility. Not keep telling its fans, next year ...

[Trogdor]

Guys just leave the resident troll alone. He thrives on getting a rise out of everyone. Ignore him and he'll go back to being quiet :)

Back on the game though. Did anyone else notice how bad our run defense looked as soon as we subbed Butler in for Spencer? We were already down 10 when Lynch ripped at 36 yards after Butler broke contain and got washed into the mess in the middle.

We also discovered that McCray and Silva are NOT NFL caliber players. Silva particularly looked atrocious in pass coverage and I would not be upset if I never see him on the field for us again. We need to put an emphasis on the position this offseason. Get a real FS and put Sensy at SS where he belongs.

I look forward to reading about Tate's fine this week. I only wish Sean Lee would of broken him in half when he returned to the field.

[TheFinisher]

The run defense looked bad because as a team we did a terrible job of wrapping up the ball carrier, not because Butler subbed in for Spencer.

But that's to be expected when you're offense can't stay on the field in the 2nd half.

[E-Man]

That was a really disgusting penalty on Carter that should have been on Tate. It's one of those things where they focus so much on protecting the offensive players and don't give a damn about the defensive guys. Really pathetic call by the officials.

[dsc1600]

Too many posts on the defense, the D gave up 17 points essentially, and they kept the team in it through 3 qtrs. Yes they tackled poorly in the 2nd half and the game plan seemed like it came from the Week 8 Eagle debacle from last year, but if we're ever going to be an elite team, the offense needs to be far more consistent.

We're not going to win games where we score 7 points, that's obvious, but if we have 6 games of less than 20 points like in 2011, we're going to struggle again to make the playoffs, improved defense or not.

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by dsc1600

Too many posts on the defense, the D gave up 17 points essentially, and they kept the team in it through 3 qtrs. Yes they tackled poorly in the 2nd half and the game plan seemed like it came from the Week 8 Eagle debacle from last year, but if we're ever going to be an elite team, the offense needs to be far more consistent.

We're not going to win games where we score 7 points, that's obvious, but if we have 6 games of less than 20 points like in 2011, we're going to struggle again to make the playoffs, improved defense or not.

Agreed. Garrett was defeated when it came to gameplanning and I am STILL shocked we did not do anything to negate the aggressive blitzing from Seattle. We ran about 9001 screens last season when defenses knew they were coming. Some of them BACK TO FREAKING BACK. I really miss some of the staples of old Garrett (play-action passing, draws, screens) all of which will prevent the defense from pinning their ears.

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As far as Butler being the sole problem Longhorn I never said that. I said did you notice on the specific play on that awful drive when he subbed for Spencer he IMMEDIATELY went out of position and got washed away when had he of anchored and played his responsibility Lynch goes down for no gain rather than 34 yards and a stake into the heart when we were already down 10. It was a prime example of what I have been saying since he took the field his first preseason. He CANNOT defend the run. He hasn't developed it. He has shown flashes as a pass rusher but is a liability against the run.
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[dezsucks (Bob)]

Originally Posted by dsc1600

Too many posts on the defense, the D gave up 17 points essentially, and they kept the team in it through 3 qtrs. Yes they tackled poorly in the 2nd half and the game plan seemed like it came from the Week 8 Eagle debacle from last year, but if we're ever going to be an elite team, the offense needs to be far more consistent.

We're not going to win games where we score 7 points, that's obvious, but if we have 6 games of less than 20 points like in 2011, we're going to struggle again to make the playoffs, improved defense or not.

The D folded in the second half after the initial drive stop.

Offense -- F
Special Teams -- D
Defense -- C

[gpngc]

Serious question: what was ya'lls impression of the Seahawks?

I caught the game sometime in the 3rd when it was domination. Don't really understand what happened...

[D-Unit]

My bad guys. Every time I go to Waikiki to watch the game with someone from the forums we get embarrassed. LOL

Met up with Crisco and his dad and watched the game at a pretty sweet sports restaurant. Sucks that we lost but I had a nice time.

[dezsucks (Bob)]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

My bad guys. Every time I go to Waikiki to watch the game with someone from the forums we get embarrassed. LOL

Met up with Crisco and his dad and watched the game at a pretty sweet sports restaurant. Sucks that we lost but I had a nice time.

I feel like this is the worst loss since 44-7 to close out the year versus the Eagles. Not b/c of importance but lack of any effort.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by dezsucks (Bob)

I feel like this is the worst loss since 44-7 to close out the year versus the Eagles. Not b/c of importance but lack of any effort.

And that was the game that I took Thule to. Hahaha.

[M.O.T.H.]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

And that was the game that I took Thule to. Hahaha.

You need to stop. lol.

JK.

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by gpngc

Serious question: what was ya'lls impression of the Seahawks?

I caught the game sometime in the 3rd when it was domination. Don't really understand what happened...

After Romo led a solid drive your defense made adjustments and Garrett never countered them. You brought a lot of pressure in the middle and we continued to try and take 5 step drops and not alter our gameplan.

Defensively Rob Ryan called an awful game (as he does against all mobile QBs). He played a lot of zone and conservatively and didn't call many blitzes. Pretty much played into Wilson's strengths rather than blitzing and rattling him. Your offense was still very bottled up until the two back breaking drives (88 and 90 yard drives) in which we lost both our starting safeties and your running game took over. It really highlighted our complete lack of safety depth and the strength of Lynch. He was a bully and looked very solid.

The opening of the game was brutal. Felix Jones fumbled the opening kickoff and then on Dallas's first offensive possession we went three and out and Dan Connor missed a block that led to a blocked punt returned for a TD. The crowd was relentless and Seattle heavily benefited from having replacement referees. A lot of missed holds and then that egregious error in calling Bruce Carter for a personal foul for guiding a player out of bounds while Golden Tate took a helmet-to-helmet cheap shot on Sean Lee away from the play.

Personally I think Seattle's defense handily out gameplanned Garrett's offense.

[bigbluedefense]

So in one game, I saw both sides of Martellus Bennett. I first saw the Dallas version: He let 2 touchdown passes bounce off of his face, and 1 almost got picked, along with a couple other drops. The touchdown drops literally bounced off of his face. It was so frustrating.

But then I also saw the other side of him, the potential side: When he caught that bomb pass touchdown and made some other great catches on the day.

It seems like Eli wants to trust him, and wants to go to him more often, but there's some work to be done there. Eli is always coaching him up on the sidelines, talking to him, getting him into the game and being supportive so I think with time it will get better (hopefully), but right now he's inconsistent and I don't trust him.

I'm just waiting for him to make a crippling mistake that costs us a game.

[Macarthur]

Originally Posted by gpngc

Serious question: what was ya'lls impression of the Seahawks?

I caught the game sometime in the 3rd when it was domination. Don't really understand what happened...

I think you guys have a very solid defense and a good running game.

I think over the course of 16 games, your QB limitations are going keep you from winning double digit games, but that defense is going to keep you in most games.

[E-Man]

Originally Posted by gpngc

Serious question: what was ya'lls impression of the Seahawks?

I caught the game sometime in the 3rd when it was domination. Don't really understand what happened...

Their secondary is much better than I thought. I knew they were good, but they're really trying to make a statement now. The biggest thing I noticed with the entire team is their hustle. As soon as they smelled blood early they made sure to get the crowd into things. When it looked like the Cowboys stole back the momentum they came out hard as hell after halftime and dominated.

I wonder if they can keep that up all season. Some teams play like that all the time where it's normal for them while others seem to only play hard at home where it's easy. With the Seahawks time will tell, but at the very least they have a very good secondary.

[dezsucks (Bob)]

Originally Posted by E-Man

Their secondary is much better than I thought. I knew they were good, but they're really trying to make a statement now. The biggest thing I noticed with the entire team is their hustle. As soon as they smelled blood early they made sure to get the crowd into things. When it looked like the Cowboys stole back the momentum they came out hard as hell after halftime and dominated.

I wonder if they can keep that up all season. Some teams play like that all the time where it's normal for them while others seem to only play hard at home where it's easy. With the Seahawks time will tell, but at the very least they have a very good secondary.

49ers right now.

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

So in one game, I saw both sides of Martellus Bennett. I first saw the Dallas version: He let 2 touchdown passes bounce off of his face, and 1 almost got picked, along with a couple other drops. The touchdown drops literally bounced off of his face. It was so frustrating.

But then I also saw the other side of him, the potential side: When he caught that bomb pass touchdown and made some other great catches on the day.

It seems like Eli wants to trust him, and wants to go to him more often, but there's some work to be done there. Eli is always coaching him up on the sidelines, talking to him, getting him into the game and being supportive so I think with time it will get better (hopefully), but right now he's inconsistent and I don't trust him.

I'm just waiting for him to make a crippling mistake that costs us a game.

It'll come in time. Worst part is his personality. The media is going to make him a nightmare after it happens. He'll make a crippling error and be very defensive about his performance and then the NY media will open the wound and Marty B is going to become cancerous in the locker room. It will be someone else's fault.

Definitely a good game for Bennett. I was really rooting for him when he first came in but he never matured (in both a developing into his tools sense as well as maturity).