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what a joke of an official nfl statement. the two officials on the spot gave contradicting rulings, so how are they gonna say they needed undisputable evidence to overturn. and that evidence was undisputable anyways. and its stupid they cant review it and say that it was PI and then throw the flag. If goodell had an ounce of integrity, he would go back and reverse it and give the Packers the W, it hapenned on the last play of the game so its not like he would have to make the teams take the field and finish the game or anything. but he doesnt

Im honestly convinced this is a vegas scam. something like 85% of the money in vegas and sportsbooks was on the packers, and the replacement refs do everything in their power to win the game for the seahawks..

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At least the Packers aren't crying about getting hit on the last play of the game. But but but it's the victory formation!!!!!
Schiano and the Bucs did that to us three straight plays. Not a peep was heard anywhere, because our coach isn't a little *****.
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You hate to see it end on such an obviously bad single call, but it went both ways the entire game. Green Bay only scored a touchdown in the first place because of a bogus pass interference call on a Green Bay 3rd down.
This has always been a pet peeve of mine. People always seem to harp on the last bad call in a game and not the ones that potentially got them there in the first place. That PI call on 3rd and 2 on GB's touchdown drive was absolutely horrendous and just as bad of a call as the final touchdown ruling; but no one talks about that because it wasn't the last call. People just overlook it and start saying "Green Bay/(insert whatever team got the short end of a bad call at l'end of the game) got robbed" when in actuality a case could easily be made that we wouldn't even be having this discussion had better calls been made earlier in the contest.

tl;dr version: A bad call in the first quarter is the exact same as a bad call in the final seconds of the game. People just only put the microscope on the latter.
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So on the way to work today, the sports radio station reported that there was a $250M swing in gambling bets world wide that changed with that play.

Monday Night Football is such a huge game because a lot of people are trying to play catch up from the weekend's losses. Everyone and their dog had GB -3. Vegas made a killing this week!
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This has always been a pet peeve of mine. People always seem to harp on the last bad call in a game and not the ones that potentially got them there in the first place. That PI call on 3rd and 2 on GB's touchdown drive was absolutely horrendous and just as bad of a call as the final touchdown ruling; but no one talks about that because it wasn't the last call. People just overlook it and start saying "Green Bay/(insert whatever team got the short end of a bad call at l'end of the game) got robbed" when in actuality a case could easily be made that we wouldn't even be having this discussion had better calls been made earlier in the contest.

tl;dr version: A bad call in the first quarter is the exact same as a bad call in the final seconds of the game. People just only put the microscope on the latter.
I think you're forgetting the Sam Shields PI call. Those two equal each other. Giving a team an imaginary touchdown on the last play of the game is much worse. We also had a leigt interception taken away from us.

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what a joke of an official nfl statement. the two officials on the spot gave contradicting rulings, so how are they gonna say they needed undisputable evidence to overturn. and that evidence was undisputable anyways. and its stupid they cant review it and say that it was PI and then throw the flag. If goodell had an ounce of integrity, he would go back and reverse it and give the Packers the W, it hapenned on the last play of the game so its not like he would have to make the teams take the field and finish the game or anything. but he doesnt

Im honestly convinced this is a vegas scam. something like 85% of the money in vegas and sportsbooks was on the packers, and the replacement refs do everything in their power to win the game for the seahawks..
Yeah, it wasn't. It wouldn't have come down to a hail mary in that case.
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I think you're forgetting the Sam Shields PI call. Those two equal each other. Giving a team an imaginary touchdown on the last play of the game is much worse.
Except that's my exact point: They don't equal each other. The Sam Shields PI happened after the egregious PI on 3rd and 2. Who's to say that the Shields PI even has an opportunity to happen if Green Bay had to kick a FG (or punt, I forget where they were on the field) on their TD drive instead of scoring that eventual TD? Situations should not determine the severity of a call or how a game's called for that matter. For example, I heard Gruden last night on the telecast mention how on last second heaves usually push-offs are ignored, but that sounds ludicrous to me. What Golden Tate did on that last TD was offensive PI, and if it was the second quarter, it would've been called as such. Thus, it should be called as such at the end of the game.
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This has always been a pet peeve of mine. People always seem to harp on the last bad call in a game and not the ones that potentially got them there in the first place. That PI call on 3rd and 2 on GB's touchdown drive was absolutely horrendous and just as bad of a call as the final touchdown ruling; but no one talks about that because it wasn't the last call. People just overlook it and start saying "Green Bay/(insert whatever team got the short end of a bad call at l'end of the game) got robbed" when in actuality a case could easily be made that we wouldn't even be having this discussion had better calls been made earlier in the contest.

tl;dr version: A bad call in the first quarter is the exact same as a bad call in the final seconds of the game. People just only put the microscope on the latter.
first off, no a bad call in the first quarter is not the same as a bad call on the last play of the game. If they make a bad call in the first quarter, the team that got the wrong end of it still has a chance to shake it off and overcome it. the final outcome of the game isnt being completely dictated by a ref. there are plenty of close games, its the nature of the sport, and we play it to the end to see who makes the big plays in the final seconds to win the game. And in this case, the Packers made the big plays, but the refs decided to take a win away from them.


And if youre speking about the third down where he threw to finley and they called a lame PI on Chancellor, it was a bad call, but not THAT bad. that was the kind of bad call Im used to seeing the old refs make. A little contact, shoulda let em play, but nothing to go crazy about.

However, the PI on 1st and 30 they called on Sam Shields was inexplicably horrible. Not only did he play PERFECT defense, but Rice interfered with him. Obviously there are gonna be questionable calls that go both teams way throughout the game no matter who is reffing the game. obviously there has been a greater extent of that with the replacements than the regulars, but when it is the final minutes or seconds of the game and you see calls that are just so obviously wrong (as Tony Gonzalez tweeted, a pop warner ref coulda made that call), it just ruins the game entirely and leaves a horrible taste in your mouth
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Yeah, it wasn't. It wouldn't have come down to a hail mary in that case.
well they certainly tried to help the Hawks cover with that PI on Shields on the drive before, the refs can only make so many bad calls in a game.
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what a joke of an official nfl statement. the two officials on the spot gave contradicting rulings, so how are they gonna say they needed undisputable evidence to overturn. and that evidence was undisputable anyways. and its stupid they cant review it and say that it was PI and then throw the flag. If goodell had an ounce of integrity, he would go back and reverse it and give the Packers the W, it hapenned on the last play of the game so its not like he would have to make the teams take the field and finish the game or anything. but he doesnt

Im honestly convinced this is a vegas scam. something like 85% of the money in vegas and sportsbooks was on the packers, and the replacement refs do everything in their power to win the game for the seahawks..
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i seriously am considering not watching the NFL this week
Haha yes!! Now we're getting the conspiracy theories haha

Knock yourself out, pretty sure the NFL won't care.

How anyone wants to not watch the cirque de NFLeil...is surprising.
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Except that's my exact point: They don't equal each other. The Sam Shields PI happened after the egregious PI on 3rd and 2. Who's to say that the Shields PI even has an opportunity to happen if Green Bay had to kick a FG (or punt, I forget where they were on the field) on their TD drive instead of scoring that eventual TD? Situations should not determine the severity of a call or how a game's called for that matter. For example, I heard Gruden last night on the telecast mention how on last second heaves usually push-offs are ignored, but that sounds ludicrous to me. What Golden Tate did on that last TD was offensive PI, and if it was the second quarter, it would've been called as such. Thus, it should be called as such at the end of the game.
The past is the past. Fact is that both the Packers and Seahawks both wrongly got given first downs during the game. Just because the Packers went on to score on that drive doesn't make it any worse of a call.

I don't know if it's just homerism, but trying to justify the call at the end of the game by saying "but the Packers got a call their way earlier in the game" makes no sense when a worse call favored the Seahawks the next drive.
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So on the way to work today, the sports radio station reported that there was a $250M swing in gambling bets world wide that changed with that play.

Monday Night Football is such a huge game because a lot of people are trying to play catch up from the weekend's losses. Everyone and their dog had GB -3. Vegas made a killing this week!
I heard they said later that the total could have been a billion worldwide. When someone on ESPN this morning suggested the league should award the game to the Packers i immediatlely thought of Steve Wynn and boys in Vegas and said no ####ing way they would have the balls.
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I heard they said later that the total could have been a billion worldwide. When someone on ESPN this morning suggested the league should award the game to the Packers i immediatlely thought of Steve Wynn and boys in Vegas and said no ####ing way they would have the balls.
yeah be real. people can be naive and think that kind of corruption doesnt exist. for all i know some guy from vegas is delivering goodell a nice fat briefcase full of 100s right now. would make plenty of sense to me.
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first off, no a bad call in the first quarter is not the same as a bad call on the last play of the game.
See, this right here is why we're gonna just have to agree to disagree. Bad calls shouldn't be this "accepted through 59+ minutes of play but not at the very end" type deal. A bad call is a bad call. A team shouldn't ever have to "overcome" the refs. And they shouldn't get credit for it either. Their job is to overcome the opposing team. That's it. So whether an official gets wrongly involved in the first or the last play of the game, there is no difference: they've affected the outcome of the game. The only reason the last call gets the spotlight is because its opposite results are more immediately tangible than the others. Still doesn't mean it was any worse than any of the other terrible calls in the game.
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where can i listen
http://www.espnwisconsin.com/

click to listen is on the right. They are about to move on though from the subject I think

they will be talking about the kicker ball that they were given on the 2PT conversion
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The past is the past. Fact is that both the Packers and Seahawks both wrongly got given first downs during the game. Just because the Packers went on to score on that drive doesn't make it any worse of a call.

I don't know if it's just homerism, but trying to justify the call at the end of the game by saying "but the Packers got a call their way earlier in the game" makes no sense when a worse call favored the Seahawks the next drive.
At no point have I tried to justify the call at the end of the game, nor have I intimated that the Packers' TD drive's PI call was worse than the last call of the game (actually, I'm pretty sure I've said that neither is worse than the other).
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See, this right here is why we're gonna just have to agree to disagree. Bad calls shouldn't be this "accepted through 59+ minutes of play but not at the very end" type deal. A bad call is a bad call. A team shouldn't ever have to "overcome" the refs. And they shouldn't get credit for it either. Their job is to overcome the opposing team. That's it. So whether an official gets wrongly involved in the first or the last play of the game, there is no difference: they've affected the outcome of the game. The only reason the last call gets the spotlight is because its opposite results are more immediately tangible than the others. Still doesn't mean it was any worse than any of the other terrible calls in the game.
Obviously I agree, it shouldnt happen. But its not a perfect world. And to expect refs to call a perfect game for 60 minutes would be ridiculous. But as a competitor there is a big difference between a bad call in the first quarter and a bad call in the final minute. When you get jobbed in the first quarter, youre able to shrug it off and keep playing , because you know that you can only control yourself and just gotta keep playing and overcome a bad call and still win....When its at the end of the game, theres nothing more you can do, the outcome of the game has been taken out of your hands, you cant try to still win it with your play, you can only argue with the refs.

In the case of last night, as HORRIBLE as the PI on Sam Shields was, the Pack at least had the chance to keep playing D and came up with a big stop and even if the Hawks woulda scored, the Pack still woulda had a chance to answer with their offense. In the case of the last play, they had no rebuttal, that was it, hey you guys lost cuz we said so. thats it. no protest, nothing, its over, go to your locker room and sulk.
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At no point have I tried to justify the call at the end of the game, nor have I intimated that the Packers' TD drive's PI call was worse than the last call of the game (actually, I'm pretty sure I've said that neither is worse than the other).
So why bring that PI up in the first place? It has nothing to do with the final play of the game. If you just moan saying "people aren't talking about the Chancellor PI!!", you're just as bad ignoring the Sam Shields PI and the Erik Walden roughing the passer.
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See, this right here is why we're gonna just have to agree to disagree. Bad calls shouldn't be this "accepted through 59+ minutes of play but not at the very end" type deal. A bad call is a bad call. A team shouldn't ever have to "overcome" the refs. And they shouldn't get credit for it either. Their job is to overcome the opposing team. That's it. So whether an official gets wrongly involved in the first or the last play of the game, there is no difference: they've affected the outcome of the game. The only reason the last call gets the spotlight is because its opposite results are more immediately tangible than the others. Still doesn't mean it was any worse than any of the other terrible calls in the game.
That cannot be further from the truth... The game was handed to the Seahawks. It wasn't a play in the 3rd quarter that kept the drive alive. It was a play that determined the outcome of the game and the refs screwed the pooch. They determined the outcome of the game by a no call on the PI and a miss call on the TD. That is why it is so egregious.
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I love the selective memory you guys have. One side brings up penalties of the other side and conveniently leaves out penalties from their side and vice versa.
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