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Old 09-29-2012, 02:55 PM    (permalink
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8 TDs, 6 incompletions today.
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Side note: I love how you only have 6 posts in 4 years.
Don't nearly have enough time being impressed with "Prospects" like Geno Smith like you do. In 08 there's Matt Ryan, hence I registered. This year there's Luck. These are what you called legitimate top qb picks.
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He went to Dartmouth, they take a while to gather their thoughts. (just kidding, sort of)
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I'm actually more shocked when he throws an incompletion. Bring on the Longhorns!
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WVU!!!!!!!!
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Will say this: Geno Smith is compared to Aaron Rodgers. Agree to disagree?
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I'm actually more shocked when he throws an incompletion. Bring on the Longhorns!
Yup, if Geno plays like this next week against a tough defense, he will be in the #1 overall pick conversation.
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Yup, if Geno plays like this next week against a tough defense, he will be in the #1 overall pick conversation.
Not to nitpick but what constitutes a tough defense.
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Yup, if Geno plays like this next week against a tough defense, he will be in the #1 overall pick conversation.
Thing is, he already had a great performance against LSU last year, when they were considered 1-2 with Alabama.

I think he deserves to be in the conversation right now, and if he continues this, which I think he does, there is no conversation.

Sadly as a Bucs fan, I don't think we get that #1 pick. :(
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My question is, is Geno really this good, or is it due to horrible defenses he has faced coupled with a tremendous offensive gameplan/playcalling?
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My question is, is Geno really this good, or is it due to horrible defenses he has faced coupled with a tremendous offensive gameplan/playcalling?
Look at his precision, it takes talent to do what he's doing regardless of the defenses he's seen. We'll learn more going forward, but don't downplay the ridiculous production to date.
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Look at his precision, it takes talent to do what he's doing regardless of the defenses he's seen. We'll learn more going forward, but don't downplay the ridiculous production to date.
The fade on the TD to Bailey was on the money. Another long pass to Bailey was dropped right over the shoulder and he had CBs blanketing him on those two throws. So beautiful. I need to re-watch this game. Like, right now.
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Look at his precision, it takes talent to do what he's doing regardless of the defenses he's seen. We'll learn more going forward, but don't downplay the ridiculous production to date.
In the NFL, if you make a wrong throw based on a wrong decision, then it's gonna be disastrous regardless of of the precision you throw it with. Heck you can throw it with more precision than Verlander and Ed Reed or Woodson's still gonna bring it 50 yards the other way.

Nfl's not gonna provide you with corners who trail your WRs by three yards all the way every time you throw go routes; nor is it gonna give you 50 square feet of space to throw into just because you WR comes off a wheel route; the least and last Nfl would give you is 10 seconds to "go through" your progressions
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Beautiful performance.

Here's to hoping he lands in a nice situation. Chiefs, Raiders or Bucs would be good for him.
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In the NFL, if you make a wrong throw based on a wrong decision, then it's gonna be disastrous regardless of of the precision you throw it with.
From today's game, how many times would you say that Geno made the "wrong throw based on a wrong decision"?
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Not to nitpick but what constitutes a tough defense.
Texas with 3-5 NFL prospects on their defense.
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Not to nitpick but what constitutes a tough defense.
Baylor has allowed 29.7 points per game, not including today's game.

Kansas State: 15.5
TCU: 4.3
Oklahoma: 14.7
Texas: 16.0

Those 4 teams above will be true tests for Geno Smith.
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Yes, Baylor's defense was horrible, but that was an absurdly good performance by Smith. Even the difficult throws by him were perfectly accurate. He had four fade routes to Bailey in the game that were absolute pictures of perfection. Yes, he couldn't throw for 600+ yards and eight touchdowns with only 6 incompletions and no sacks against a good defense, but there isn't a college QB who ever could put those numbers up against a good defense. You can't blame Smith for taking advantage of the opposing defense. That was the best game I have seen played by a college QB in recent years.
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Baylor's defense is terrible, but as terrible as they are I don't see any other QB in this draft putting up those numbers against them.

But scouts aren't going to put much stock in this game tape.
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I still not sold on him. He can make the throws, but I am afraid in the NFL defenses will be too fast for him and struggle mightily to read defenses.
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From today's game, how many times would you say that Geno made the "wrong throw based on a wrong decision"?
My point is not that he made wrong decisions today, but that the entire Baylor defense was nowhere, absolutely nowhere near the caliber to put him into any distress where he would make wrong decisions. That's why in spite of all the firework he put in the air and the jaw-dropping numbers printed in stat-sheets, his performance today needs to be taken with more than a grain of salt. Much more.
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I'm sorry boys, but I called Geno to KC months ago. You guys are trying to jump on a bandwagon that has already left without you.
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Baylor has allowed 29.7 points per game, not including today's game.

Kansas State: 15.5
TCU: 4.3
Oklahoma: 14.7
Texas: 16.0

Those 4 teams above will be true tests for Geno Smith.
I know that Oklahoma and Kansas State played each other, but have any of those defenses played an offense as explosive as West Virginia's yet? Or anything really close to it for that matter? I don't necessarily disagree with you, I'm interested to see how he shreds (performs against) those defenses as well... lol. People are just quick to point out that WVU hasn't played anyone yet but at the same time, a lot of those teams above haven't either. Can't wait to see Geno and this offense take on the giants of the Big 12.
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Yes, Baylor's defense was horrible, but that was an absurdly good performance by Smith. Even the difficult throws by him were perfectly accurate. He had four fade routes to Bailey in the game that were absolute pictures of perfection. Yes, he couldn't throw for 600+ yards and eight touchdowns with only 6 incompletions and no sacks against a good defense, but there isn't a college QB who ever could put those numbers up against a good defense. You can't blame Smith for taking advantage of the opposing defense. That was the best game I have seen played by a college QB in recent years.
Well said.
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I am afraid in the NFL defenses will be too fast for him and struggle mightily to read defenses.
How many QBs in this draft, or any other, can't you say this about? NFL defenses are faster than the fastest college defenses and disguise their stuff better. Every QB has to learn to adapt to the speed of the game and learn how to diagnose NFL defenses. Guys like Cam Newton and Robert Griffin weren't exactly world class when it came to reading defenses, but it neither held them back in the draft nor prevented them from doing pretty well so far in the NFL.

Generally the question is "Can I teach this guy to read a defense" not "can this guy read a defense right now". The throws that Smith is capable of making aren't throws that everybody can make, so that's why you look long and hard at him. The things he doesn't do right are things you can teach, and the fact that his footwork has improved dramatically from last year is what really makes you excited about this kid.
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