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Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
Nick Florence, QB, Baylor
Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia
Kenarious Gates, OT, Georgia
Alec Ogeltree, OLB, Georgia
Sanders Commings, CB, Georgia
Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon
Joseph Randle, RB, Ok St.
Cooper Bassett, DL, Ok St.
Blake Jackson, WR, Ok St.

Gurley reminds me a little of Trent Richardson.
Ogletree is one of my favorites. He could be one of the league's best 4-3 SLBs or 3-4 ILBs pretty early in his career. Eventually could play the middle with a little more bulk. Could be everything that Aaron Curry was expected to be.

Joseph Randle is probably one of my favorite RBs this year. I had him targeted to the Bears, had they not been able to sign Forte this offseason. I'd pass on a bunch of guys to take Randle in the 2nd. He doesn't have the wear and tear of Ball. Doesn't have the injury red flags of Lattimore and Knile Davis. Has more speed and is a smaller target than Le'Veon Bell. More size than Ellington. More experience as a pass catcher and being "the guy" than Lacy. Looks like an every down back in the NFL to me.
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Week 5:
*Matt Elam JR SS Florida: What a game, hit like a ton of bricks all game, even hit his own teammates when they got in the mix. Played good in coverage, made great tackles, could play his way into being the #1 SS in the draft if he comes out early.


*Troy Niklas SOPH TE Notre Dame: Possibly the best blocking tight end I have seen. Might have just been a weak Miami front seven, but Niklas completely took out defensive players and literally pushed them down field opening up huge holes. He is a must watch and is a monster prospect, looks like a professional weight lifter, just a great looking prospect and a rare talent.


*Seantrel Henderson JR OT Miami FL: I have been harder on Henderson than anyone, has really had a slow start to his career. But going up against a potential 1st round pass rusher in Shembo, Henderson held his own. Seemed to get a lot lower than he used to, bend his knees more and moved laterally a lot better. Still should be better as a run blocker than he is but overall if he keeps playing this well all season, he is easily a 1st round talent, might be best for him to come back another season and if he keeps improving he could be a top 5 talent in 2014.


*Nickell Robey JR CB USC: Star corner, great athletic ability, seems effortless in coverage. Very few corners out there that one is confident in, I would be confident in leaving Robey on an island, even despite his height, kid can play.


*Aaron Donald JR DT/DE Pitt: Beast in the middle, gets constant pressure, long arms, great pass rusher as a tackle. Could be a possible 3/4 DE in the NFL and could even play DE in a 4/3, but would have to gain some weight to be put in the middle I think.


*Shadrach Thornton FR RB NC State: Another star freshman running back, what else is new. Shows great speed, toughness, hard to bring down and is a game breaker. Catches the ball well out of the backfield ontop of that.


*Avery Williamson JR ILB Kentucky: A bright spot for Kentucky, tough linebacker, stays low to the ground, has good closing speed and athletic ability. He is one of many good inside linebackers in a solid junior class.


*Allen Robinson SOPH WR Penn State: Long armed kid, makes big plays, is a great route runner, really understands the game. A huge weapon for Penn State and a real surprise talent.


*Jonathan Banks SR CB Miss State: Wow he is big, very strong corner, great athlete. Will be interesting to see how he plays in the big games Miss State has coming up. Looks like a safety but can cover, with some improvement in his ball skills in coverage he could be a very high pick, and everyone already knows.


*Deontae Skinner JR OLB Miss State: Like his development, big tough linebacker, can run well and hit hard, is coming along nicely off of a decent season last year.


*La'el Collins SOPH OG LSU: Liked how he played, tough kid, thick, gets good push and is surprisingly athletic for his size.


*Rory Anderson SOPH TE South Carolina: Tall kid, gets big catches for SC a lot. If he fills out a little more he could be a decent late round prospect as a pass catching tight end. Talented player with a lot of potential.


*Josh Francis SR OLB West Virginia: Played a good game, gets good pressure on the quarterback and hits hard. Arguably the best and most impactful defensive player on West Virginia, could possibly translate to a 3/4 linebacker with his quickness and pass rushing ability.


*George Atkinson III SOPH RB Notre Dame: Great speed in the open field, big time game breaker, needs to work on other parts of his game but he is very talented and has big play potential.


*Quintin Payton JR WR NC State: Competed hard and made tough catches against a great defense. Liked his energy on the field and aggressiveness. Decent player with obvious good size and strength.






Disappointed:
Bacarri Rambo SR SS Georgia: Missed an interception that could have totally changed that game. Not very impressive tackling either, did not make many plays. He is one of many disappointing Georgia defensive players in that South Carolina game. Many safeties are playing better than he did, and he is having a little hangover from his early season suspension, not a good start for this once promising player.





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Bill O'Brien and Penn State, wow I never thought he would do what he has at Penn State. They have two or three really good looking freshman. They have some straight up players on that team, a few good tight ends, defense has some very talented linebackers and defensive lineman. Not sure who to give the credit too, the players are providing a lot of personal team leadership and that goes a long ways as well taking accountability. Still O'Brien is doing a good job there, and if they did not lose all those players that transferred, they probably would have won the Big Ten with how well they are looking now.
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Ole Miss completely **** the bed in a heart and ball breaker yesterday, but Cody Prewitt (sophmore safety) looks to be the real deal. He is a great athlete with above average size, makes big hits, makes plays in coverage, and is a sound tackler. Is a true sophmore so he will be at Ole Miss at least one more year but he looks to be the real deal.

Bo Wallace spread the ball around, Moncrief and Vince Sanders had big games, but the turnovers and a few bad decisions by coach Freeze killed us. A lot to be excited about on the roster for the first time in a while, but we were so close to being 4-2 and finally opening our SEC schedule with a W.
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Was impressed with rs freshman QB Marcus Mariota of Oregon. Great makeup for a QB, good speed and an adequate arm that should get stronger over time.

Duck TE Colt Lyerla is also one that impresses. Just about every other reception is for a td and the kid is a physical freak. Runs about a 4.5 at 255lbs and if there is a better blocker in college ball i haven't seen him yet.
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Duck TE Colt Lyerla...and if there is a better blocker in college ball i haven't seen him yet.
Its sophomore tight end Troy Niklas from Notre Dame 6-7 260. ;o)
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Its sophomore tight end Troy Niklas from Notre Dame 6-7 260. ;o)
If he's as good i would say hats off to him. Lyerla with that 4.5 speed and supposed 45 inch vertical is just a freak athlete. I'll focus more on the ND guy.
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If he's as good i would say hats off to him. Lyerla with that 4.5 speed and supposed 45 inch vertical is just a freak athlete. I'll focus more on the ND guy.
Its mostly cuz he's ONLY a blocker. Eifert takes care of anything to do with receiving. But Colt is a manchild. I've had to cover him in basketball, i woulda been luckey to touch him as he blew right by me. But yeah, he's one of those guys who's just a pure football player. He plays FB, TE, H Back and has gotten a good amount of snaps at RB this year for us, which at 6'5" 245, is just flat out unfair with the speed he has. Its like Brandon Jacobs going back to college. He's a jumbo Offensive Weapon type, he doesn't really have one set position, but can do so many things well that you'll want to move him around to maximize his skillset.
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Ozzy - we traded posts about Glennon last week. He is a pretty impressive rhythm passer or at least he was last night. Once he was in the zone he was completing everything. He missed a sure TD late in the 4th quarter when he missed the receiver in the middle of the field. He looked a lot better than Manuel though - Glennon has a huge arm and I think last nights game helped his stock some. He is probably a 4th rounder at this point.
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Yeah, Lyerla is a legitimate freak. Speaking of talented TE's, Richard Rodgers at CAL. Maynard should continue to look better now that Rodgers is healthy and back in the line-up.

Dri Archer looks like the most dangerous man in CFB atm.
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John Simon. 5 tfls and 2 sacks against Nebraska. Awesome.

Bradley Roby had a great day too, 2 interceptions including a TD and a great PBU in the endzone.
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Jordan Poyer had 3 INTs...that's decent
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Yeah that was a crazy game, knew Manuel and that offense would blow it for the defense and they did, then again they saved the defense in that Clemson game. Glennon showed up though, is not a great leader, is not a magnetic personality but he gets the job done and has a great arm and perfect size for a quarterback. I think he will be a higher pick than a 4th rounder but at least he played good when the pressure was on.


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Bradley Roby had a great day too, 2 interceptions including a TD and a great PBU in the endzone.
It is surprising how Ohio State is not better on defense, they have tons of talent at every level. I assume it is because of the lack in experience at the linebacker position, they have talent there but get out of place at times.

And Nebraska, damn they should have been talent on that defense than they do, someone is dropping the ball recruit wise, they have very few playmakers on the defense at all.

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He is a smooth corner, not sure where to put him, athletically Jonathan Banks is better and in ball skills and coverage Rhodes is better but Poyer kind of has both, coverage skills and better athletic ability than Rhodes does. Good to see Oregon State back from an awful building season last year.



As for this Colt Lyerla kid, you get back to me when he runs a 4.38 40 and has 33 reps of 225... a la Vernon Davis. Kid is good for sure but not a Vernon Davis type freak athlete at tight end, not yet.
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we make so many mental mistakes at LB and S that it's not funny. Poor tackling in our back 7 has hurt us. Defensive line and cornerback are top of the line though.

Etienne Sabino just isn't good, Storm Klein is the worst middle linebacker we've had in years, Ryan Shazier is good but very very young and still learning. We are used to having Brian Rolle, Ross Homan, James Laurinaitis, AJ Hawk, Anthony Schlegel, Bobby Carpenter, Matt Wilhelm, etc. at linebacker. All of our talent at LB currently on the roster are either freshmen or sophomores.
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As for this Colt Lyerla kid, you get back to me when he runs a 4.38 40 and has 33 reps of 225... a la Vernon Davis. Kid is good for sure but not a Vernon Davis type freak athlete at tight end, not yet.[/quote]

So by that standard we can't call DBs freaks unless they match Deion Sanders 4.2 40 or WRs freaks till they run a 4.3 like Calvin Johnson.
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Judging by his on field speed I'd say he's definitely a solid 4.4 guy right now. Couple that with his vertical and he's bordering on the freak athlete category. I mean Oregon still uses him at RB at times so that should tell you something right there. Not really sure bench reps have much to do with anything but here's a video of him doing 20 reps coming out of high school at what looks like 185 so I'm sure come draft day he'll be able to throw up 20-30 minimum at 225.



He's still very raw but his potential is through the roof right now. Might be the best TE prospect since VD if he develops properly going forward. Here's some tape from the Arizona game where they used him at RB towards the end. He's the total package imo.

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He's Storm Klein's backup at middle linebacker. Hasn't grasped the game mentally yet. A bust so far, looking like Sabino 2.0.
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So by that standard we can't call DBs freaks unless they match Deion Sanders 4.2 40 or WRs freaks till they run a 4.3 like Calvin Johnson.
I guess yeah you are right, but it is a little interesting that at least for me, his ability at running back is more promising to me than his ability at tight end. That kind of player at running back is real interesting I think. Because he can catch the ball out of the backfield and be used as a receiver as well from that spot. But I will have to focus more of him as a blocker and see if he is that good at it, if so then yes being kept on the line as a tight end will be most likely. That is what interest me about him though at this stage, that running ability hypothetically.

But again still has a long ways to be a pass catching target like Vernon Davis was in college and is in the pros. Sure 40 time I guess is one thing and is just a stat in reality, actual production as a deep threat tight end is another.
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For USC I'd like to put in Morgan Breslin this week as well. He didn't record a sack but had a tackle for loss on White and had an almost sack that lead to the pick six by Nickell Robey. He was applying constant pressure entire game.

He's a bit small for a DE ala Osi, Bruce Irvin, Chris Clemons but he can sure rush the passer.
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For USC I'd like to put in Morgan Breslin this week as well. He didn't record a sack but had a tackle for loss on White and had an almost sack that lead to the pick six by Nickell Robey. He was applying constant pressure entire game.

He's a bit small for a DE ala Osi, Bruce Irvin, Chris Clemons but he can sure rush the passer.
I think he's a 3-4 OLB all the way at the next level. He definitely has the first step, COD, and quickness to excel at the position. That's what UCLA wanted him as anyway. Glad we snatched him from them.

Imagine Breslin and Barr coming off the edges.
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we make so many mental mistakes at LB and S that it's not funny. Poor tackling in our back 7 has hurt us. Defensive line and cornerback are top of the line though.

Etienne Sabino just isn't good, Storm Klein is the worst middle linebacker we've had in years, Ryan Shazier is good but very very young and still learning. We are used to having Brian Rolle, Ross Homan, James Laurinaitis, AJ Hawk, Anthony Schlegel, Bobby Carpenter, Matt Wilhelm, etc. at linebacker. All of our talent at LB currently on the roster are either freshmen or sophomores.
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*Troy Niklas SOPH TE Notre Dame: Possibly the best blocking tight end I have seen. Might have just been a weak Miami front seven, but Niklas completely took out defensive players and literally pushed them down field opening up huge holes. He is a must watch and is a monster prospect, looks like a professional weight lifter, just a great looking prospect and a rare talent.
he is a great blocker when in position but playing defense last year he still has a lot of strides to make to not miss assignments. When he makes his block there is hardly anyone better but there are still mental errors
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*Travis Wilson FR QB Utah: What a freak at quarterback, huge kid, nice size, big, strong, has a good arm and can run when needed. Could be a huge prospect down the road and is one to keep tabs on. If he gathers things together mentally, he could be great because he has close to it all physically one is looking for.


*Eddie Johnson FR OLB Miami FL: Good looking linebacker, fast, makes plays, can rush the passer and make plays down field. One of the few bright spots on a weak Cane defense this season, should be a good prospect down the road.


*Tony Jefferson JR S Oklahoma: Forget about the kid easily, but he could arguably one of the best safeties in the nation when he puts his mind to it. Great tackler, made some big turnovers against Texas. If he keeps this play up he could fine his way into the 1st round, he has that kind of ability at the position.


*Corey Robinson SOPH OT South Carolina: Huge kid, 6-8, just noticed him this week for South Carolina, mountain of a man, has some youth as well. Played good against a great front four on LSU. At his size he could be a big timer very quick.


*Quinton Patton SR WR La Tech: The defense was a joke, big his game was insane, what production. Great run after the catch athlete, strong kid, good hands and makes a difference. Could be a nice prospect in the upcoming draft without question.


*Alex Carter FR CB Stanford: Nice looking corner prospect, big time hitter, very good tackler and is one to watch develop. Is stout at the point of attack and a big physical kid.


*Vadal Alexander FR OT LSU: Big kid, moves well and played good against a great SC front four. Nice on his feet and he should develop into a good one I think.


*Eric Fisher SR OT Central Michigan: Very promising player, I have to watch him more because he showed good potential at tackle, good physical blocker and have to see more of him, he could rise near the top of the class quick potentially.


*DeVante Parker SOPH WR Louisville: Had a great game, made some amazingly difficult catches. Showed nice open field speed as well and has good size overall. Could be a very promising player real quick.


*Trai Turner FR OG LSU: Another freshman stud on that line for LSU, good guard, moves well and is a powerful blocker for a freshman. Will be fun to watch him develop.


*Eugene Neboh SR CB Texas Tech: I have to watch more of him, seems like a good quick corner, fights hard and moves well on the field, was part of a great overall defensive performance for the Red Raiders.


*Eric Ebron SOPH TE UNC: Big kid, nice athlete and is having a solid year. A very talented player and could move up to the top with more production. As a pass catcher he is very good and if he shows some blocking ability watch out.


*Titus Davis SOPH WR Central Michigan: Like his quickness and aggressive play. Gets good separation and shows good athletic ability. Will see how he plays the rest of the season.


*Xavier Sua-Filo SOPH RS OG UCLA: Had a hard time before, but going up against Star, at times was able to one on one handle him and hold his ground. Still think he needs to work on his upper body strength but with that solid base he could be a good one. And will be interesting to see if he stays at guard or tackle in the future.





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Very very true, in the game this weekend he was awful in pass protection at times, but key word good run blocker, clearly has a lot to work on to be a complete all around blocker. Still the potential is there. But yes at times he is lost but then again he is not an offensive tackle, he is a tight end and few tight ends can handle elite pass rushers one on one without help. Few can do it in the NFL much less college.
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*Tony Jefferson JR S Oklahoma: Forget about the kid easily, but he could arguably one of the best safeties in the nation when he puts his mind to it. Great tackler, made some big turnovers against Texas. If he keeps this play up he could fine his way into the 1st round, he has that kind of ability at the position.


*Eric Fisher SR OT Central Michigan: Very promising player, I have to watch him more because he showed good potential at tackle, good physical blocker and have to see more of him, he could rise near the top of the class quick potentially.
Both true items, but on opposite ends of the spectrum. The S position could be very strong, with maybe the top guy being a personal preference. And with McDonald's bloodlines, Lester's leadership, Reid's big game performances, Vaccaro's size and speed combo, and I love Rambo and Elam personally.....but Jefferson gets lost in the mix. But he might have the best and most consistent tape of the group. He's the best tackler of this group, maybe the most natural instincts, can run, and can cover. And he's produced. He bettered his really good freshman numbers in his 2nd year, and is on pace to increase across the board as a JR.

As for Fisher, the OT position is asking for a top guy to step up. It might just be him at this point. This was really the first I watched him closely and he was pretty strong. Very physical and violent. Looked like a good enough athlete for the left side in the NFL also. The MAC has put out some decent OL in recent years, so competition shouldn't hurt him too much. He's working his way into the top 25, maybe better.
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Both true items, but on opposite ends of the spectrum. The S position could be very strong, with maybe the top guy being a personal preference. And with McDonald's bloodlines, Lester's leadership, Reid's big game performances, Vaccaro's size and speed combo, and I love Rambo and Elam personally.....but Jefferson gets lost in the mix. But he might have the best and most consistent tape of the group. He's the best tackler of this group, maybe the most natural instincts, can run, and can cover. And he's produced. He bettered his really good freshman numbers in his 2nd year, and is on pace to increase across the board as a JR.

As for Fisher, the OT position is asking for a top guy to step up. It might just be him at this point. This was really the first I watched him closely and he was pretty strong. Very physical and violent. Looked like a good enough athlete for the left side in the NFL also. The MAC has put out some decent OL in recent years, so competition shouldn't hurt him too much. He's working his way into the top 25, maybe better.
Vaccaro is very overrated I feel, he is not always productive and does not always show up, was certainly a non factor against Oklahoma in that massacre. And Rambo is having an awful start to the year, much less the off the field trouble he has had. Will be interesting to see where Jefferson goes if he comes out. I thought he was like top 10 talent as a freshman player, was a little disappointed he moved to safety but probably for the best considering his tackling, but would have loved to have him on the corner as well. Some what down sophomore year I thought playing odd position safety and linebacker at times, but good to see he is playing well now.

As for the OT's, yeah it is waiting for a top guy, kind of reminds me when Solder came out and he was one of the few that slightly separated himself late and got drafted high.

Then again Fluker is a redshirt junior, and will most likely come out I think. He is a massive man, good athlete and could be a great power tackle, if Cordy Glenn can play tackle in the NFL Fluker can too, but could also be a beast guard. He could easily be the top guy, and Seantrel Henderson is playing very good, if he comes out things could get interesting because it would be damn hard to pass him up, had short comings early in his career but is not seemed to be headed on the right developmental path.
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