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View Poll Results: Who will win the NBA Championship in 2013?
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:26 PM    (permalink
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Yi Jianlian> Andray Blatche.
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Jordan Hill out with a herniated disc in his back. ****! Kid looked good last night too.
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Offensive skill doesn't automatically equal dominance. Pau was the most skilled center for awhile there and he was never dominant. Bynum has the flashes because he has a good combination of skill, size, strength, and athleticism. But if were talking just offensive skill as a center. I'm talking footwork, post moves, IQ, ability to score from different spots on the floor, passing, ability to finish with either hand, Hibbert is the answer. But because Bynum has the strength and athleticism that Hibbert lacks, along with a few of those skills, he looks much more 'dominant' at times. So therefore, most think its because he's highly skilled.
We have different definition of skill then....I factor in athleticism/strength/size into a skill set. Pure "skills", I think it's Big Rudy Cool Al.
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Meh, I always thought Hibbert was just alright on the offensive end. Not anywhere near Bynum thats for sure. I'll watch him more this year.
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****, really? Thats a bummer, hes been really solid since coming over to us.
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he's always been solid just happens to choke women, most organizations don't care for those types of people
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Was never 8th overall pick solid, though.
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We have different definition of skill then....I factor in athleticism/strength/size into a skill set. Pure "skills", I think it's Big Rudy Cool Al.
That's talent IMO but I suppose it's semantics.
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Meh, I always thought Hibbert was just alright on the offensive end. Not anywhere near Bynum thats for sure. I'll watch him more this year.
Of course highlights make anyone look good but show me what this guy can't do offensively...







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Can he do this?



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Yi Jianlian> Andray Blatche.
Yi is better than nobody ever ever ever.

Dammit, why'd you have to bring him up?

I hate Yi
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Tyler Zeller will put this to rest soon anyway








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I really think all that matters when it comes to evaluating a player offensively is ability to score points. I don't care how its done as long as they can put points on the board, but obviously you have to weigh offensive circumstances into this (team pace, offensive possessions, talent around them, ability to make others better...etc)
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It's not just about points. If you're getting constantly double/triple-teamed, you're not going to end up with a ton of points. If you're getting your points and also helping your teammates get theirs, you're a good offensive player.
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It's not just about points. If you're getting constantly double/triple-teamed, you're not going to end up with a ton of points. If you're getting your points and also helping your teammates get theirs, you're a good offensive player.
stop using logic. Bropez was awful offensively because he shot a bad percentage even though he was doubled and tripled because Bobby Simmons and Yi were on offense with him. There was seriously a point where the entire Nets offense was pick and roll with Bropez and Devin Harris with everyone else chilling at the 3 point line. It was embarrassing
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It's not just about points. If you're getting constantly double/triple-teamed, you're not going to end up with a ton of points. If you're getting your points and also helping your teammates get theirs, you're a good offensive player.
Which is why I said that it certainly depends on circumstances. Obviously its going to be more difficult to score if you draw more defensive attention. A team's offensive pace also has a lot to do with it (see inflated GSW stats) as do many other factors. I was speaking more in terms of a vacuum situation if these factors theoretically didn't exist. I was more trying to say that I don't really care how you score (whether it be with skill, athleticism, strength...etc), but its that simple ability that matters.
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In every which way you wanna slice it, Roy Hibbert is not the best offensive center in the league.
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I know its just pre-season, but Ron Ron looks good....I mean really good so far.
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stop using logic. Bropez was awful offensively because he shot a bad percentage even though he was doubled and tripled because Bobby Simmons and Yi were on offense with him. There was seriously a point where the entire Nets offense was pick and roll with Bropez and Devin Harris with everyone else chilling at the 3 point line. It was embarrassing
Bropez needs to learn to ******* pass out of double teams.
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I'm hoping he does that now, but in the past, he had nobody to pass to. I'd rather him take a low percentage shot than kick it out to bobby simmons or trenton hassel
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I'm hoping he does that now, but in the past, he had nobody to pass to. I'd rather him take a low percentage shot than kick it out to bobby simmons or trenton hassel
I just threw up a little.
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Bropez needs to learn to ******* pass out of double teams.
Bynum is the same way.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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Can we please move to the next page already?! These Roy Hibbert videos making my page lag every time i open this thread are pissing me the **** off.
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Trenton Hassell is awesome scotty, direct your hate elsewhere plz.
i LOVE trenton Hassel. Just not to shoot. I've blocked those years out of my head, but those Nets teams were just so devoid of talent, it was brutal
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