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Old 09-22-2012, 10:00 PM    (permalink) 
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It's still hard to tell how good a passer Manuel is, he rarely challenges a defense and it seems a large percentage of his throws are to stationary targets.


On crossing routes, seam throws or deep outs, from what I've seen Manuel just isn't willing to take those chances.
Just looks like a guy IMO who's playing not to lose, which may have more to do with the talent on FSU and the opponent they were facing tonight.
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Idk, I still dont like Manuel as a passer. His release is VERY robotic.
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I dont like either at all.
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I'd have to say last night was the most impressed i've been with Manuel. I thought he hung in there and didn't lose any composure when the team was struggling a little.
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I really like everything about EJ Manuel except for his ability to pass the ball.
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I'd have to say last night was the most impressed i've been with Manuel. I thought he hung in there and didn't lose any composure when the team was struggling a little.
I'm reserving my judgement here. He played a Clemson team that really isn't good. He didn't do what mr Geno Smith did to them and that was absolutely TORCH THEM constantly through the air.
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When will everyone admit Landry Jones sucks?
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When will everyone admit Landry Jones sucks?
Pretty sure this is the time. Still has the physical tools to end up in the top 100, but sinking fast. Hopefully he doesn't end up getting the Jerrod Johnson treatment.
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I have no idea if either will be good in the NFL, but I find it funny that people are so quick to write them off. Just like people did with so many other talented QBs in recent years who are doing well in recent years.
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I'm reserving my judgement here. He played a Clemson team that really isn't good. He didn't do what mr Geno Smith did to them and that was absolutely TORCH THEM constantly through the air.
How many of Geno's passing yards were on the shuffle pass (really a jet sweep)?
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How many of Geno's passing yards were on the shuffle pass (really a jet sweep)?
we run it like 3-4x a game

hes avg like 30 completions a game
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we run it like 3-4x a game

hes avg like 30 completions a game
Against Clemson? I honestly don't remember, but I vaguely recall a bunch of it coming on the jet sweep passes.
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Against Clemson? I honestly don't remember, but I vaguely recall a bunch of it coming on the jet sweep passes.
clemson i think 5x; they just had no idea how to stop it

we run it on avg 3-4x a game
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Maybe the real conversation here should be how terrible the Clemson defense is.
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EJ Manuel is not good - very inconsistent. Jones at least shows some consistency. Manuel looks like he floats the ball too.
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Jones may have finally got into a groove. He has looked a lot better and consistent since the Kansas St loss.
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Yeah, I noticed that Jones has been putting up pretty box scores this year. I'd be interested to hear from Scott about how he's playing. Could he potentially re-enter the #1 overall pick discussion?
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I don't think Jones is going to warrant an early first round pick - he is a later 1st/2nd round guy. Early in the season after the KSU game people went into full bash mode on him though when he really isn't that terrible of a prospect.
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Someone who commented on Manuel throwing to stationary targets is spot on, he just doesn't have the rhythm passing ability or accuracy to really hit a guy in stride. He just floats everything forcing guys to stop their route.

In the Miami game he left numerous WRs out to dry, and narrowly missed a wide open Chris Thompson on a short pass (where he eventually got hurt on). He had one throw in the game where he fired it in the middle, and I said to myself "Thats the first time he's thrown a ball like that."

He's got a ton of talent, but is just so frustrating sometimes. I'm beginning to think it might be more Jimbo's coaching style as he definitely micro manages the QB position.
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Someone who commented on Manuel throwing to stationary targets is spot on, he just doesn't have the rhythm passing ability or accuracy to really hit a guy in stride. He just floats everything forcing guys to stop their route.

In the Miami game he left numerous WRs out to dry, and narrowly missed a wide open Chris Thompson on a short pass (where he eventually got hurt on). He had one throw in the game where he fired it in the middle, and I said to myself "Thats the first time he's thrown a ball like that."

He's got a ton of talent, but is just so frustrating sometimes. I'm beginning to think it might be more Jimbo's coaching style as he definitely micro manages the QB position.
He puts that pass on a rope and Thompson is gone for a TD and doesn't get hurt.
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