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Old 10-30-2012, 08:51 PM    (permalink
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Not true. Holmes has taken off plays and since getting his contract(He and Sanchez were very good in 2010) he has had some costly drops and fumbles as a Jet. He's also been a locker room brat.

Holmes has been bad as a Jet but its his own doing. He's become an albatross of a contract and because of the payday, he's stop caring.
yeah, well he wasn't a headcase in Pittsburgh so much when he was winning division titles and Super Bowl MVPs. His statistical dropoff had more to do with Sanchez and that offense, not his ability...and his off character issues got out of hand when they struggled in New York.
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I could see Greg Roman as a solid fit in Cleveland. I thought the rumor was Cowher would be interested in the Carolina job cause he wants to stay close to home?
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Not true. Holmes has taken off plays and since getting his contract(He and Sanchez were very good in 2010) he has had some costly drops and fumbles as a Jet. He's also been a locker room brat.

Holmes has been bad as a Jet but its his own doing. He's become an albatross of a contract and because of the payday, he's stop caring.
Always an excuse for Sanchez.
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Always an excuse for Sanchez.
they're both subpar. Keylime is just defending Santonio because he's from Ohio State.
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I would definitely not expect San Diego to get anyone that will be expensive, so most of the big names should be out.
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I could see Greg Roman as a solid fit in Cleveland. I thought the rumor was Cowher would be interested in the Carolina job cause he wants to stay close to home?
I hope Roman doesn't go anywhere soon.
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The Packers are usually good for 3-5 drops per game over the past several seasons. Too often, it's more. Even in their Super Bowl win, the WRs almost dropped enough passes to blow it. It's not just Finley padding those numbers; it's also Nelson, Jennings, and Driver. And James Jones. He's been outstanding this year; but oh my god, ask a Packer fan about Jones and his past drops and fumbles.

Yet, Aaron Rodgers doesn't suck.

Guys, please stop using drops as an excuse for the fact that your team has a QB who sucks.

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Always an excuse for Sanchez.
Always blaming Sanchez.

Why does Holmes not acting like a professional, and having drops/fumbles now suddenly fall solely on Mark Sanchez? What does Mark now need to be Holmes mother on the team?

To bring Keylime's quote into this.....outside of this being solely on Holmes, I do give the coaching staff, specifically Rex Ryan some blame too. Holmes was given a C on his chest to be a captain and he embarrassed himself in Miami, making a fool out of himself in the locker room leading Mason and Burress to rebel against the O-Line and much of the team among other stupid ****(Doing the Eagle celebration down multiple scores last year in Philly....this after fumbling the ball in the game). There comes a point and time where the coaches need to put a halt to this and not let this continuously happen. Sanchez may be the Quarterback but if he isn't able to be great on that field, he won't command the respect of someone like Holmes unlike someone like Rex Ryan whose a "Players coach". The Steelers are a much tighter group and don't let such nonsense like this make ways, which is why Holmes got dealt for a 5th round pick to the Jets when Holmes tested positive for marijuana. Its also why the Steelers win titles and the Jets do not. The Rooneys have and will always run their ship better than Woody Johnson...that's a pure fact.

Holmes was great in 2010 but after he got his ridiculous payday and celebrated it by drinking up a bottle, he along with his super bowl ring and "moment" could care less what happens to the team as long as he gets his stats. Its why he backed Sanchez over Tebow.....Holmes knows that Sanchez may not be great like Big Ben was for him but he also knows Tebow would do far worse for Holmes in the stat book.



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I don't think anyone will argue with LT on this one.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...philip-rivers/
If they do fire them, a retread may end up coaching in San Diego. A defensive guy might suit them well.
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Cowher to Carolina and Gruden to Dallas might actually have legs...

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It has been rumored for years that Bill Cowher, who settled down in North Carolina, would be the successor to John Fox in Carolina. With Marty Hurney already in place and Cowher’s desire to oversee his own front-office regime a la Bill Belichick, Jeff Fisher and the more established coaches in the league, it never materialized. One requisite for the job for Cowher, after the Steelers won a Super Bowl upon Ben Roethlisberger’s arrival, was that a quarterback be in place, a need the Panthers did not have filled when Ron Rivera (now 7-16 as the team's head coach) was hired. Cam Newton is more physically gifted than Roethlisberger, who was able to succeed in Pittsburgh initially with a very simplified playbook and a strong running game. Although reports have emerged of the use of a consulting firm to replace Hurney, one might not be needed with Cowher already working outside the league, where many top candidates appear to be coming from.

Former Eagles and Bears personnel man Bobby DePaul, the man most responsible for bringing Rivera to Chicago, also remains available, after taking a position as a coach/personnel boss in the UFL, which coincidentally suspended operations days before Hurney was released. Former Raiders personnel man Mike Lombardi, who is expected to land back in a personnel role this offseason, and Jon Gruden, who shared a short stint in Philadelphia with DePaul and Lombardi, also remains available and is believed in personnel circles to be the front-runner for the Cowboys' head-coaching job if Jerry Jones decides to part ways with a struggling Jason Garrett. Gruden was one of the few coaches who have had success working for Al Davis, the owner most similarly hands-on and meddlesome as Jones, and Gruden has been overly effusive in his praise of Jones and the Cowboys in his coverage of the team on ESPN’s "Monday Night Football" broadcasts.

Don’t be surprised if many of the NFL’s rock-star list of out-of-league candidates find a way back into the league this offseason, with many interested in controlling personnel and as many as five GMs (Cleveland, Kansas City, Jacksonville, San Diego and the New York Jets) with sub-.500 records all facing closer scrutiny than ever in an age of increasing accountability.
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Gruden in Dallas ,no way? That is a long shot IMO.But could work,I dunno.Not sure about Cowher to Carolina either.
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Shurmur has gotta go, that's a given. Coaching alone has accounted for 4-5 losses this season.

I'd like to keep Heckert though. He has ties with Banner, although there may be water near the bridge between those 2, whether it's over the bridge or under it, only they know for sure.
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If Jerry Jones would fire his crappy GM, then Bill Cowher would be the best fit for the Cowboys and the Cowboys would be the best fit for him. But for some odd reason, I just dont see Jerry Jones ever firing his crappy GM. Oh well. LOL.

And a little note about the Jets -

It's their OL thats the worst part of their team. Aside from Mangold and Ferguson, their OL sucks. Basically, 60%. No team is winning with 60% of their OL being total and complete crap. Just ask the GM of the Cowboys. LOL.

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This would be my biggest concern with Andy Reid. Other than that I'd love the hire.
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Grantland.com absolutely piles on Gene Smith

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During Thursday's embarrassing 27-10 home loss to the Colts, the Jacksonville Jaguars acted like they were rejecting a newly transplanted organ. Virtually every notable personnel move the team made this offseason produced a notably disappointing game. Veteran free agent wideout Laurent Robinson, already benched after signing a big deal this past offseason, fumbled a reception away to end a promising drive. Former Giants cornerback Aaron Ross was lost in coverage on a 41-yard bomb that set up a Colts touchdown. Franchise kicker Josh Scobee missed his first field goal of the year. Most disturbingly, wide receiver Justin Blackmon whom the Jaguars traded up to acquire with the fifth pick in this year's draft continued to exhibit a total inability to separate from pro coverage and become a playmaker in the passing game. Jacksonville threw the ball 47 times against a team whose starting cornerbacks were both inactive, and Blackmon mustered just three catches for 25 yards. At least third-round pick punter Bryan Anger had a good game.
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I'm worried for my Chiefs..

Knew they were gonna have a rough time after seeing Stanford Routt brought in.
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Can people really be talking about Rex Ryan losing his job? The guy made it to two AFC title games in a row. He has a aging roster, his best defensive player is hurt and his best play maker is hurt as well. If I was him I would be happy with getting canned! Jets are a long way from being good again.
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Can people really be talking about Rex Ryan losing his job? The guy made it to two AFC title games in a row. He has a aging roster, his best defensive player is hurt and his best play maker is hurt as well. If I was him I would be happy with getting canned! Jets are a long way from being good again.
He is also responsible for that crap show of a circus and soap opra as well.
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Grantland destroyed Marty Hurney after their 36-7 loss and he was fired a few weeks later. Gene won't last longer than Black Monday.
I heard Blackmon just kept running square outs the entire game.
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Can people really be talking about Rex Ryan losing his job? The guy made it to two AFC title games in a row. He has a aging roster, his best defensive player is hurt and his best play maker is hurt as well. If I was him I would be happy with getting canned! Jets are a long way from being good again.
Rex will likely not be fired, however if he is he can blame his own stubborness on it. He doesn't want to start Tebow because it will open up a massive can of worms in New York, bu at this point Sanchez is probably the biggest liability on the team. Any other back up QB and Sanchez is riding pine, but not with Tebow. It really shows how idiotic a move it was to bring him into that market.
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Rex will likely not be fired, however if he is he can blame his own stubborness on it. He doesn't want to start Tebow because it will open up a massive can of worms in New York, bu at this point Sanchez is probably the biggest liability on the team. Any other back up QB and Sanchez is riding pine, but not with Tebow. It really shows how idiotic a move it was to bring him into that market.
Well to be fair, most of the team's talent is terrible so I don't think either QB makes this work but I have no problem seeing Tebow in there over Sanchez for the sake of trying something new and hoping something sticks.

It furthers the point on why our GM has to go pronto.
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x2 I mean seriously Sanchise is playing like crap . You gotta win , it is a winning league. Tebow can do that. he has more balls then Sanchise any how.
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