New York Giants Discussion

[Giantsfan1080]

And Sanu made some catches that made you go wow. All I'm saying is right now you can't say Randle is the better WR.

[Giantsfan1080]

Sounds like a torn ACL for Kuhn.

[scottyboy]

we've dumbed the playbook down for randle. he had one okay game. This was Sanu's second start. He's already got a throwing TD, the receiving TD (which was a really nice catch and adjustment on the ball) and was even used for a rush showing his versatility. Randle's done nothing but not catch end zone fades thrown his way.

And Sanu separated pretty nicely on some plays on Webster or Amukamara. Just saying.

It would be nice to have a spark like that from one of our rookies

[Forenci]

Doubtful it happens because rookie WRs rarely make an impact in our offense or under Coughlin.

[NY+Giants=NYG]

R.R. might be the better prospect, but in our system, it's really tough for a rookie to come out and play at a sick ROTY level.

[BaLLiN]

Sanu got stats, he didn't do anything that I wouldn't expect from any NFL WR. He got the benefit of a terrible coverage in the endzone that not only allowed him to get a free release to the inside but a crapload of space. He did not separate at all on those catches, so i don't know what you're talking about.

Edit: and it was a good catch, but he also had the benefit of Prince's body and his body keeping it from hitting the ground.

[Giantsfan1080]

Huh Prince actually played that TD really well.

[BaLLiN]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

Huh Prince actually played that TD really well.

by coverage i meant coverage play, as in the switch. I know its not always a designed switch but the play design of Cincy versus our defensive was just terrible. We gave up all that space in the switch

[BigBlueNorwegian]

Originally Posted by Rosebud

Norwegian was right there with him last I checked and the two of them were gunna get each other to jump. Hope they survive the bye.

We'll make a deal Rosebud. I promise to not jump before you say so :) But I am not seated in the middle of the roof chilling on a couch like you are, I'm carefully looking over the edge and considering the consequences if I jump.

But to my credit, I didn't panic last year, when so many panicked. I was one of the last believers in that team after the NO and GB game. I don't know, I'm just not currently feeling confident about this teams chances in the playoffs.

[bigbluedefense]

There was nothing I saw in that game that made me think Sanu is better than Randle. I saw no seperation at all.

He made nice traffic catches. He'll be a solid possession WR for his career. That's fine. I like Sanu.

But Randle will be better. He just has to learn the system. You saw what he can do when he's confident in his routes. He was killing it out there. Once he picks up the system he'll be fine.

[scottyboy]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

There was nothing I saw in that game that made me think Sanu is better than Randle. I saw no seperation at all.

He made nice traffic catches. He'll be a solid possession WR for his career. That's fine. I like Sanu.

But Randle will be better. He just has to learn the system. You saw what he can do when he's confident in his routes. He was killing it out there. Once he picks up the system he'll be fine.

**** that, I'd take a possession guy who can move the chains for us right now, something we don't have. Especially with Nicks not being healthy.

God I want nicks healthy. He's probably my new favorite player and just unreal when healthy

[bigbluedefense]

So it looks like Diehl is gonna remain the starter...

Also sounds like the Giants have no plans of playing Wilson more...


Hooray adjustments...

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by NY+Giants=NYG

R.R. might be the better prospect, but in our system, it's really tough for a rookie to come out and play at a sick ROTY level.

You guys should grab Greg Salas off the Patriots practice squad. He knows the Run 'n Shoot and I think if he gets another chance he could prove himself.

[bigbluedefense]

Na, give Randle his reps. It takes time to develop. He needs reps.

If the light can turn on come playoff time, we should be ok. But we'd like to see it come on sooner.

Realistically he'll be ready next year. Bennett apparently has tears in his knee too which is slowing him down, so that's also hurting our offense.

[D-Unit]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

Na, give Randle his reps. It takes time to develop. He needs reps.

If the light can turn on come playoff time, we should be ok. But we'd like to see it come on sooner.

Realistically he'll be ready next year. Bennett apparently has tears in his knee too which is slowing him down, so that's also hurting our offense.

You guys still pleased with Bennett? What's his percentage of receptions vs targets?

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by D-Unit

You guys still pleased with Bennett? What's his percentage of receptions vs targets?

Very pleased. He doesn't have terrible dropsies. Catches most of his passes.

Before he hurt his knee he was really looking good. Now he looks average, you can tell he can't explode anymore and looks slow. But bc he's big, he still can get open underneath. Eli just isn't targeting him much, and the system doesn't really call his #.

But I'm pleased. I'd like to extend him after this season for the right price.

[Giantsfan1080]

Bennett was very good until he hurt his knee against the Browns. His play has dropped off considerably since then so hopefully after the bye he'll start to feel better again. Still an excellent pickup. I think I've only seen him drop a few balls and only 1 possibly 2 where I was really livid about it.

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

So it looks like Diehl is gonna remain the starter...

Also sounds like the Giants have no plans of playing Wilson more...


Hooray adjustments...

I've seen the Wilson comments but nothing about Diehl. If he's the starter against the Pack I will lose it.

Brown should be playing more than Bradshaw and Wilson anyway. I didn't like the Wilson pick at the time as we know so didn't expect much from him this year anyway. The SF game did get me excited but it's been outweighed by his terrible play in most all the other games he's had carries in.

[bigbluedefense]

Wilson will be fine. He's not going to make an impact this year, he's a rookie. We all know how Coughlin rolls.

For next year, I'd love to see us go with Brown and Wilson and just part ways with Bradshaw. But I don't see that happening.

[Giantsfan1080]

I do. We need to save money on the cap and Bradshaw seems like a goner.

[scottyboy]

oline coach said Diehl's problems are fixable and he'll be fine next game.

uhm.

[Forenci]

How do you fix being terrible?

[BigBlueNorwegian]

Originally Posted by scottyboy

oline coach said Diehl's problems are fixable and he'll be fine next game.

uhm.

That's like saying your homoerotic relations to Rutgers players are fixable, and will be gone next game. Not going to happen.

[LonghornsLegend]

Originally Posted by Giantsfan1080

I've seen the Wilson comments but nothing about Diehl. If he's the starter against the Pack I will lose it.

Brown should be playing more than Bradshaw and Wilson anyway. I didn't like the Wilson pick at the time as we know so didn't expect much from him this year anyway. The SF game did get me excited but it's been outweighed by his terrible play in most all the other games he's had carries in.

He's only got 18 carries for the whole season, averaging almost 5 yards a pop. I'm really surprised some of you seem to hate Wilson so much before he's even given a chance. I honestly don't get to see him enough to call him terrible but even in limited carries, I wouldn't classify him as terrible personally.

[Forenci]

Haha, I was going to say the same thing LL. He's basically gotten no carries has pretty good average because of it.

I think he'll be a good player. Not sure why GF is so down on him.