NFL Week 11 Discussion Thread.

[yo123]

That was some of the worst pocket presence I've ever seen by Weeden. The pocket started closing around him but he had lanes to get out of it. Decided taking a sack and fumbling was a better move.

[BuckeyeDan17]

Weeden isn't aware of the concept of stepping into the pocket. He is a pig farmer, not a quarterback.

[Ness]

Jerry Jones not even celebrating after that fumble recovery. He knows that his team can still screw up.

[Smooth Criminal]

Chad Henne needed to finish this game. Damn it.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by kalbears13

I miss Joe Haden so ******* much.

Do the Browns have a rule that they won't ever break the 20 pt mark.

[49erNation85]

Originally Posted by soybean

Put in tebow, we're up 14 with 2 minutes...

It won't happen sadly. Rex is in love with Sanchize too much.

[Cigaro]

Impressive drive by Newton and the Panthers. That's the guy we want to see.

[Pat Sims 90]

Dallas just wants to lose this game.

[Gribble]

Ugh... that was bound to happen.

[Smooth Criminal]

Originally Posted by Ness

Jerry Jones not even celebrating after that fumble recovery. He knows that his team can still screw up.

Nice call. Of course the Cowboys can't just win.

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by Ness

Ratliff made fun of Weeden's mama.

Which was in extremely poor taste, as she had died of old age years ago.

[Ness]

LOL Dallas. Jerry Jones knew this was coming too. That's the best part.

[BeerBaron]

Originally Posted by vidae

People say that every year. You can count on hearing two things every draft year:

1) This isn't a very good draft year for QBs
2) <x> should just trade back into the first for a QB!

Every year without fail except 2011. Every year. This group of QBs isn't THAT bad. They're not close to the group that came out last year, but people always say this about the current group of QBs. They did it to Stafford, they did it to Ryan, they will do it this year and continue to do it next year. People keep saying it but it doesn't make it true.

Geno looked pretty good against OU yesterday. Not lights out, but he played very well against a good team.

And lastly, it's November, not April. Someone (or multiple someones) always separate themselves from the pack and are worthy of the top spot. This year will be no different.

You are putting these words into my mouth. I said none of those things about any of these people. I was the one trying to convince Falcons and Lions fans to shut the **** up and accept the fact they are getting Ryan over Dorsey (lol) and Stafford over Curry (double lol.)

MY point was, that earlier in the season, when all of these guys were lighting it up, there was a lot of talk about how this could be another great class. Geno, for instance, was averaging like 80% completion percentage and hadn't thrown a pick. I've gotten to see him extensively in recent weeks against Texas Tech, K State, TCU and now Oklahoma. If all you do is look at the stat line against Big 12 defenses, any QB is still going to come away looking statistically impressive. But he made inexplicably terrible decisions that led to picks and killed drives. Just things that a senior QB in this 3rd year starting with high draft pick aspirations should not be doing.

I have personally pointed out several times that we were spoiled in the past 2 years with QB classes. Last year's was clearly the best in a long time, and even 2010 saw a lot of guys with big potential going at the top.

Now we are rebounding to average. This is much more "typical" QB class, but I think it's trending downward even further than that. I can't look at any of these guys and say with confidence that I feel they have franchise QB potential.

[Notredameleo]

terrible no call in the Lions game...

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Rosebud

But sometimes when people say it they're talking about Vince Young/Matt Leinart or JaWalrus and Quinn.

Or Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, Joey Harrington, David Carr, Blane Gabbert. Not all QBs are created equal.

[kalbears13]

The Receivers coach for the Browns needs a raise for whatever he did to Greg Little to get him to catch balls.

[BuckeyeDan17]

Originally Posted by Babylon

Do the Browns have a rule that they won't ever break the 20 pt mark.

What's 20 points? How does that happen?

[Ness]

Turner slide up in dere.

[yo123]

Originally Posted by Notredameleo

terrible no call in the Lions game...

That was pretty ridiculous. He was all over him.

[Smooth Criminal]

Wow does Dallas suck. What a horrific way to try to blow this game.

[Ness]

Matt Schaub. Hell yeah.

[Rosebud]

Shurmur's gunna kick a field goal here...isn't he. That would be a very clever way to lose this game.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by yo123

That was some of the worst pocket presence I've ever seen by Weeden. The pocket started closing around him but he had lanes to get out of it. Decided taking a sack and fumbling was a better move.

I never liked the pick from the start.

[SolidGold]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

You are putting these words into my mouth. I said none of those things about any of these people. I was the one trying to convince Falcons and Lions fans to shut the **** up and accept the fact they are getting Ryan over Dorsey (lol) and Stafford over Curry (double lol.)

MY point was, that earlier in the season, when all of these guys were lighting it up, there was a lot of talk about how this could be another great class. Geno, for instance, was averaging like 80% completion percentage and hadn't thrown a pick. I've gotten to see him extensively in recent weeks against Texas Tech, K State, TCU and now Oklahoma. If all you do is look at the stat line against Big 12 defenses, any QB is still going to come away looking statistically impressive. But he made inexplicably terrible decisions that led to picks and killed drives. Just things that a senior QB in this 3rd year starting with high draft pick aspirations should not be doing.

I have personally pointed out several times that we were spoiled in the past 2 years with QB classes. Last year's was clearly the best in a long time, and even 2010 saw a lot of guys with big potential going at the top.

Now we are rebounding to average. This is much more "typical" QB class, but I think it's trending downward even further than that. I can't look at any of these guys and say with confidence that I feel they have franchise QB potential.

I totally agree. I do think Landry Jones is rising up draft boards along with Glennon. Smith and Barkley are falling and Wilson is a wildcard in terms of first rounders. I know I will get **** for saying this but Jones is really impressing me as of late. Glennon is good - streaky and lacks the weapons of Smith or Barkley but still manages to put up numbers.

[BuckeyeDan17]

Originally Posted by Rosebud

Shurmur's gunna kick a field goal here...isn't he.

Are you stupid? We are trying to run out the clock.

Take a knee.