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Old 11-25-2012, 09:22 PM    (permalink
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Adderall is obviously the masking agent. Nothing like guys getting scripts for a highly addictive, scheduled drug that alters their brain chemistry for life, just to hide the PEDs.
Is there any merit or science behind this theory? Or are you joking?

I thought they used Adderall to help retain the playbook and study opponents.

But now that I'm thinking about it, that doesn't make much sense for DBs.

So please explain.
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The sudden upturn in NFL players with ADHD and hyperactivity is a bit suspicious.
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Is there any merit or science behind this theory? Or are you joking?

I thought they used Adderall to help retain the playbook and study opponents.

But now that I'm thinking about it, that doesn't make much sense for DBs.

So please explain.
I've spoken to four "gym rats" who are very knowledgeable on "supplements." They all expressed to me that Adderall can be a mask. Other very similar stimulants such as Modafinil have been used similalry and are now bannned as well.

Do I have medical documentation of Adderall being used for such? Absolutely not, so take it for what it's worth.
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It'd be pretty epic if neither one of them were there to cover Brandon Marshall next week.
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It's adderall. Freaking adderall.

I hope one of them has a script.

Jesus how do they get caught when so many guys have already gotten popped this year!!!!!!!
even if they have a script it is still banned.
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If you're busted for PED's, I'm pretty sure the NFL can't reveal which particular substance you tested positive for. So you can say you tested positive for Adderall when in actuality it was steroids/HGH, and there's no way for anyone to confirm whether that's the truth or not. Adderall isn't as taboo as steroids/HGH are, so the speculation is that players are all just claiming that when they're really roiding.

As for a mask, I'm pretty sure Adderall pushes things through your system quicker. It also suppresses your appetite, so it could affect a player's weight.
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Wouldn't be surprised at all if they popped 'em before film sessions.
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I heard former player Ross Tucker talking about this last week. He said guys getting busted for Adderall are morons. He said all you have to do is have a prescription and register with the league prior to starting of use. Simple process.

Which leads you to believe that guys that wouldn't follow such a simple procedure are doing so because they have something to hide.
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There's no way that all these guys have suddenly got a craving for Adderall. Why would you come out and say you were roiding when you can say you were on Adderall. Now if any player was using Adderall and had a prescription, like Mike Neal, then the suspensions will be reduced or cancelled. However you can't appeal for using Adderall if the NFL really know you failed for HGH
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Pretty sure if you register to use a prescription drug with the league, they run you through even more rigorous testing than they would anyone else. If you genuinely need the meds, hey no problem, right? If you're using them for something else, you may try to get away with it. Something's fishy, and i'm positive these guys aren't using them just for film study.
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They use it as a upper. It acts as " speed " if you do not have ADD or ADHD. If you go to college campus it's most likely the most used drug behind booze and weed. Kids take it because it keeps you up so they can study.
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They use it as a upper. It acts as " speed " if you do not have ADD or ADHD. If you go to college campus it's most likely the most used drug behind booze and weed. Kids take it because it keeps you up so they can party.
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Actually, Andre has a well documented learning disorder and this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who has followed him since high school. I'd be concerned if he wasn't taking something to help him focus.
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So disgusted with this sort of stuff i'd probably be more inclined to throw the book at the team and the organization. For a 5th round pick Sherman should have been content with just playing football and not all the other theatrics he's brought on himself. And this iidiot went to Stanford to boot.
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Eric Wright joins the adderall party!

Does it really matter if we lose him though?Our secondary sucks with him and sucks without him.

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They use it as a upper. It acts as " speed " if you do not have ADD or ADHD. If you go to college campus it's most likely the most used drug behind booze and weed. Kids take it because it keeps you up so they can study.
I can say with 100% certainty it is right behind booze and weed. A very large chunk of college kids take it for a variety of reasons, but those with heavy prescriptions can make a lot of money selling the drugs their insurance pays for.
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Wow this is really an interesting topic. I've yet to get any clarity on the suspected reason for the use of Aderall in NFL circles.

Using it as a masking agent makes sense. But so does using it as a study aide. And for me, the latter is much, much more forgivable.

I understand that regardless of the scenario, Browner/Sherman should be/will be punished.

But I wouldn't have bad feelings towards them if the substance is in fact Adderall and they were taking it for study/film reasons.

I would be very disappointed if they used it as a masking agent for physical PEDs.

And I can't tell which it is...
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Wow this is really an interesting topic. I've yet to get any clarity on the suspected reason for the use of Aderall in NFL circles.

Using it as a masking agent makes sense. But so does using it as a study aide. And for me, the latter is much, much more forgivable.

I understand that regardless of the scenario, Browner/Sherman should be/will be punished.

But I wouldn't have bad feelings towards them if the substance is in fact Adderall and they were taking it for study/film reasons.

I would be very disappointed if they used it as a masking agent for physical PEDs.

And I can't tell which it is...
Take a wild guess.
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Pretty sure if you register to use a prescription drug with the league, they run you through even more rigorous testing than they would anyone else. If you genuinely need the meds, hey no problem, right? If you're using them for something else, you may try to get away with it. Something's fishy, and i'm positive these guys aren't using them just for film study.
I understand this skepticism.

But I'm just not sure because Adderall really did change my academic life. Without it, I don't know where I'd be. Because of that profound impact, it's absolutely possible that NFL players, like college kids (which honestly most of them practically are), simply suggest it to each other a lot, it works, so now it's the new way to learn the playbook.
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It's not Aderall. Again the NFL can't say what they're really suspended for the NFLPA just comes out and says that's what it is. It's steroids or something like that.
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So the suspicion is that:

A) they were taking physical PEDs, but used Adderall as a masking agent.

or

B) they were taking physical PEDs, but the NFLPA (or whoever gets to say it) is just lying, saying Adderall.

Because I've yet to see the theory for "A" get tested other than phylsac's four gym rat buddies. Has anyone else posed this question, because it seems very legitimate. Genuinely curious.
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But it also isn't a "study aid."

It's an amphetamine. If using an upper helped you study, good for you, but it doesn't aid in studying. I guess that using cocaine back in the day helped me study too, because I could stay up for days.
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But it also isn't a "study aid."

It's an amphetamine. If using an upper helped you study, good for you, but it doesn't aid in studying. I guess that using cocaine back in the day helped me study too, because I could stay up for days.
Absolutely false.

I was a huge skeptic until I tried it and then absolutely understood what all the fuss was about. College students use it as a study aide because it has a profoundly positive affect on your focus.

"How could this make me want to schoolwork?", I thought.

And then it worked. Once you get started on something, you can go for hours upon hours.

It would make perfect sense for a young NFL player to use it to keep focus watching film or reading a playbook.

I'm not saying there aren't other affects or that it's morally OK and not cheating. I'm just saying it's absolutely a study aide and would absolutely help NFL players study and watch film.
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Just spoke with a former DIII football player that admitted to regularly using Adderall before games. He said, "I would use it right before pregame workouts. I would amp me up like you wouldn't believe but also gave me a sense of focus. It absolutely enhanced my play."


Another grain of salt.
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