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Old 11-24-2012, 04:25 PM    (permalink
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I'm telling you guys this dude is going to be a Bear. System and player fit too well for it not to happen.
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Or the Seahawks. Not going to take on many blockers with Red Bryant or Brandon Mebane.
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It's probably just me, but I don't see the fixation with this guy.
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I don't think Ogletree has very good instincts. Seems late diagnosing and attacking plays.
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Who quits on more plays then this kid?
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1st Round or top half of 2nd Round.
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his stock is soaring, haters.
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He got to the end zone pretty quick there.
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He got to the end zone pretty quick there.
sub 4.55 guy I'd bet.
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He's been molested in the 2nd half on some of these runs. Of course, his 2 stud NTs are making sure he's not alone in that.
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I thought it was a good game for Ogletree as a prospect. He was out there vs the best team in college football and really stood out at times. I selfishly hope he returns to UGA next year and has a monster senior season.
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From how everyone praises his play on this board he seems a bit overrated. Missed a lot of tackles And watched him get trucked by lacy. Only good thing I saw was him picking up that blocked punt.
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From how everyone praises his play on this board he seems a bit overrated. Missed a lot of tackles And watched him get trucked by lacy. Only good thing I saw was him picking up that blocked punt.
He did struggle when they ran right at him, but they were able to consistently get an OG, OC or in some cases a DT (Williams) out on him because they were dominating the guys up front. But he had 11 tackles and was really strong sideline to sideline (the strength of his game). He made a few splash plays including a couple big tackles on the last drive to give his offense a chance to win it. He had a fine game. Nobody is overrating him. The main topic in this thread has been his athleticism. He can really run (as you saw on the TD). He has really long arms. Can blitz and play in open space in coverage.
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Ogletree reminds me of a young LaVar Arrington to a tee. He is so long and explosive that he absolutely pops out on tape. Has the ability to get after the QB and close in on the ball in a hurry with great "football speed". I think he will test out in the mid 4.5 to 4.6 range but he is one of the guys who is faster in pads.

The problem is that he is still inconsistent and will flash some plays and drag his feet the next. Needs to do a better job of recognition in zone coverage and audibles at the line. Best suited for OLB where he can let his athleticism take over.
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To me what makes him such a special prospect in comparison to many many other ILB is that he has the combination of size to defend the run and athletisism to be able to cover at the next level. Often you will find either or with a LB prospect. Just look at Manti Teo, great leader and everything and he is doing well in college against the pass but I think nobody would say that you can just line him up on RBs or TEs at the next level and expect him to be successful. With Ogletree this is a different story. His combination of power, athletisism and size is just extremely hard to find in a LB and as the NFL gets more and more pass happy with tons of teams loving to spread out their opponents, he is the prototypical LB for the future who can play all three downs and be effective against any type of scheme that is thrown at him.
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He did struggle when they ran right at him, but they were able to consistently get an OG, OC or in some cases a DT (Williams) out on him because they were dominating the guys up front. But he had 11 tackles and was really strong sideline to sideline (the strength of his game). He made a few splash plays including a couple big tackles on the last drive to give his offense a chance to win it. He had a fine game. Nobody is overrating him. The main topic in this thread has been his athleticism. He can really run (as you saw on the TD). He has really long arms. Can blitz and play in open space in coverage.
...which is exactly why he has no business playing inside in either a 4-3 or a 3-4. His success is going to be very dependent on the role he's put in. In the right role he can be an awesome player. In a role he's not suited for, he's really going to struggle. Makes him hard for me to project pre-draft.
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Ogletree struggled at times yesterday because the other team had good players too. He wasn't playing in a vacuum.
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He will make a few splash plays but more times then not he's a non factor. He looked like he wanted nothing to do with that big bad Alabama team. You can't run away from blocks like he consistently does. His inexperience at the position consistently shows. If he wasn't tall he wouldn't be so overrated.
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He will make a few splash plays but more times then not he's a non factor. He looked like he wanted nothing to do with that big bad Alabama team. You can't run away from blocks like he consistently does. His inexperience at the position consistently shows. If he wasn't tall he wouldn't be so overrated.
He led UGA in tackles and solo tackles by a large margin. How do you do that if you want nothing to do with a team and are running away...
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And he lead team in tackles missing 4 games
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And he lead team in tackles missing 4 games
I think he certainly has a place in the NFL in the right scheme and I acknowledge his physical talents, but he is god awful in his run fits and hangs his teammates out to dry a lot. Such a freelancer. I just don't know how this can be argued, and it goes far beyond the Alabama game.

He's not a 3-4 ILB tho, and that's part of the problem.
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You can do both as he did.
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Ogletree has weaknesses, but what 21 year old linebacker doesn't? NFL teams will know he's got a lot of work to do. That doesn't mean he's not a very good prospect.
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Ogletree has weaknesses, but what 21 year old linebacker doesn't? NFL teams will know he's got a lot of work to do. That doesn't mean he's not a very good prospect.
No one is saying he doesn't have talent. But it's very difficult to teach toughness.
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No one is saying he doesn't have talent. But it's very difficult to teach toughness.
I've not seen anyone outside a message board questioning his toughness.
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