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Old 11-26-2012, 04:48 PM    (permalink
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Great job on this mock as a whole. Big Logan Ryan fan too for the Skins.
oops. scratched that in the last update. Figured Vaccaro would be rated higher on the board then Ryan. ..and thanks.
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I dont know if we would pass on Ogletree there. We tend to not pass on UGA players when also presented good value.
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To say I wasn't very impressed by EJ Manuel this past weekend would be an understatement. I realize Florida's D is legit but he struggled so much it was hard to see him get anything worthwhile accomplished through the air.

Their D imo was the reason they were afloat in that game.
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To say I wasn't very impressed by EJ Manuel this past weekend would be an understatement. I realize Florida's D is legit but he struggled so much it was hard to see him get anything worthwhile accomplished through the air.

Their D imo was the reason they were afloat in that game.
Manuel's kind of an enigma. His skill set is great. Arm with accuracy, size, athletic ability, smarts. But then he just looks overwhelmed at times and everything breaks down. In that game he made some great plays-eluding the rush and firing downfield. It's not the worst he's looked this season but pretty far from his best. But there's so much to work with there-someone will like him a lot. If the new coach is looking for a run/pass type, he's their project.
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Good 1st round pick for AZ but we have to end up with a potential franchise QB by the end of the 2nd round. TE really isn't that big of a need honestly, Housler is an amazing receiver and he is improving as a inline blocker.
Where? There probably won't be a slam dunk type prospect to clearly unseat any of the QBs. Maby they can trade for Alex Smith, Tyrod Taylor, Matt Flynn, Colt McCoy. :/
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28. Atlanta Falcons - Corey Lemonier* /DE/ Auburn:
Lemonier has been one of the most consistent rushers in the country for awhile. NFL Comp. Shawn Merriman
*previous Ezekiel Ansah, Eric Fisher
great pick. could see NT/DT John Jenkins as well but still a great pick.
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why two DE's? If we get Jenkins in the first, this is great.
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why two DE's? If we get Jenkins in the first, this is great.
Oversight-I forgot to come back to ATL's 2nd.

EDIT 28. Atlanta Falcons - Alec Ogletree* /LB/ Georgia:

Inside/outside LB & former safety used as a pass rusher quite a bit but pretty raw. Idk if there's character concerns or not after serving an early season suspension. Yay or nay?
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NO! NO! **** NO! Any QB but Glennon.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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Edited: 19. Indianapolis Colts – Jarvis Jones* /OLB-DE/ Georgia:

Dropped Jones. Took a quick look at Jones' medical issue and it's scary. He's likely already off, or will be, a lot of teams boards.
Wow, Jones would definitely be an awesome pick, but I don't know anything about his injury. I need to check that out if he falls this far.
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19. Dallas Cowboys - Jesse Williams /DT/ Alabama:
Not yet getting enough recognition. Williams should become a beast of an interior lineman in the NFL-able to play in any scheme. NFL Comp. Antonio Garay
*previous John Hankins

19. Dallas Cowboys - Barrett Jones /OC-OG/ Alabama:
Will become more valuable because of his versatility.
*previous Jordan Reed
Jesse Williams to the 'Boys in the first is very 'meh' pick. Defensive line is one of the deepest positions on the team. Even if the idea is to move Ratliff permanently, which Ryan has stated he does not want, Josh Brent has been stellar filling in on the "heavy" packages as well as on 4-man lines on down and short. At defensive end we are pretty loaded with old vets Coleman/Spears along with the youth movement of Hatcher, Lissemore, Crawford, and Bass. A later pick could be used to add another development prospect but using a first ignores our massive needs on the offensive line and the back end of our secondary.

Looking at your board Eric Fisher, Johnathan Cooper (granted I am extremely high on him), or Jarvis Jones provided our penchant for seeing value in talented players with major injury shadows continues i.e. Sean Lee and Bruce Carter most recently.

Second round pick is perfect. Versatility is a major bonus when considering our recent offensive line drafting history.

Swapping the first pick and it's a nice mock for Dallas :)
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I like the Buc's picks. Although I don't think the Buc's take a Offensive lineman that early, Dominick's philisophy on Oline is to get proven guys.
The way your board fell it would be tempting to take Banks instead of Fluker, Milliner/Banks would go a long way in fixing our secondary and the Buc's have been known to go back to back with the same positions in the past.
(Gerald McCoy/Brian Price in 2010 and Adrian Clayborn/D. Bowers in 2011)

If not Banks I think a DT, DE or TE would be taken before Oline.
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EDIT 28. Atlanta Falcons - Alec Ogletree* /LB/ Georgia:

Inside/outside LB & former safety used as a pass rusher quite a bit but pretty raw. Idk if there's character concerns or not after serving an early season suspension. Yay or nay?
Falcons don't take anyone wiht suspensions at all.
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If you're doing trades, I suspect the Raiders will be desperate to trade back. They need more picks to address this roster overhaul.
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I like the Buc's picks. Although I don't think the Buc's take a Offensive lineman that early, Dominick's philisophy on Oline is to get proven guys.
The way your board fell it would be tempting to take Banks instead of Fluker, Milliner/Banks would go a long way in fixing our secondary and the Buc's have been known to go back to back with the same positions in the past.
(Gerald McCoy/Brian Price in 2010 and Adrian Clayborn/D. Bowers in 2011)

If not Banks I think a DT, DE or TE would be taken before Oline.
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Little is not a liability.... With Gordon, Little, and Cameron the Browns have three athletic and strong pass catchers. Gordon has the ability and the traits of a number one receiver, give him a year. One thing I like about Gordon is he is consistently getting better. In the first half of the season he only caught 41% of his targets, but since he's converting on 71%.

Little's problems were moreso the fact that if he did record a catch he would just dance around and do something ridiculous. The drops looked like confidence issues that appear to be gone.

Browns honestly shouldn't even use a pick on a receiver this year. DE, LB, and CB are top needs. I'd be into the idea of resigning Sheldon Brown and trying him out at FS, he seems like the type of corner who would make the transition.

With how your mock went, the Browns should have selected Damontre Moore, who would be great in the 7 slot.
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Little is not a liability.... With Gordon, Little, and Cameron the Browns have three athletic and strong pass catchers. Gordon has the ability and the traits of a number one receiver, give him a year. One thing I like about Gordon is he is consistently getting better. In the first half of the season he only caught 41% of his targets, but since he's converting on 71%.

Little's problems were moreso the fact that if he did record a catch he would just dance around and do something ridiculous. The drops looked like confidence issues that appear to be gone.

Browns honestly shouldn't even use a pick on a receiver this year. DE, LB, and CB are top needs. I'd be into the idea of resigning Sheldon Brown and trying him out at FS, he seems like the type of corner who would make the transition.

With how your mock went, the Browns should have selected Damontre Moore, who would be great in the 7 slot.
Hey MDM. I really like Moore. He's a great fit. But I'm also extremely high on Allen. I think he'll be an elite WR wherever he ends up. I think most Browns fans are overrating our receivers. I'm not sure Little will ever be what he was projected to be. Since he stopped dropping the ball he's averaged 3rec for 32yds with 1TD over the last 8 gms. They've reduced his targets, imo the only reason he hasn't dropped any in that time. Gordon has been a pleasant surprise but after him I'm not really high on anyone else.
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