SWDC Mafia Game Thread (Town Wins!)

[Wootylicous]

Logically if any of them was a protector/watcher or had an important role I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have 5-6 posts in this thread.

[Shane P. Hallam]

With 30 members remaining, 16 votes are needed for a majority:

TitanHope (13) - Brothgar, jrdrylie, Forenci, CJSchneider, TBW, OSUGiants, Rufus, vidae, Todd Bertuzzi, scotty, fenikz, McGee, Snicho

Brodeur (9) – GOW, Bulldogs, Dr. Gonzo, Caddy, Rob S, Woot, BeerBaron, Deep, vikes,

OSUGiants (2) - Cashmoneydrew, ATLDirtyBirds,

Bulldogs (2) - Jensen, Brodeur


If no majority is reached by 6:30 AM EST, the top two votegetters will be lynched.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

I love TH but any way you cut it he really isn't an asset to the town based on his role.

[SuperMcGee]

The voting groups are definitely interesting, right now. All of the more brash guys seem to be voting for Brodeur, most of them having done so for a while, now. It seems like more of a reserved group of posters on the TH train, yet there are more of them. I have no idea what to make of this without knowing who is good, but it is interesting. All I know is that if TH is killed and is good, we will certainly be hearing about it.

[BeerBaron]

Originally Posted by TitanHope

If it didn't matter though, then I'd be voting BeerBaron.

Why? Find fault with my logic here, please. Don't just throw my name out in your dying throes without giving a reason.

[jrdrylie]

Here's an interesting experiment. It seems like none of us are too convinced that either TH or Brody are actually evil. So who DO we think is evil? Personally, I'm looking at CJ. How about everyone else?

[Forenci]

Originally Posted by Cutey Wooty

I rather take a chance on a inactive than kill TH who is for me a great asset in day 2 of this sorry.

A really lame argument. Don't claim to use odds and then quickly switch over to the intuition argument.

This game is mostly about odds, ESPECIALLY early in the game. Everyone has become too smart to give themselves away this early unless completely necessary (or dumb).

The way I see it, TH is basically an SK. Whether he actually is (or is more likely this vigilante role) makes no difference. Inactives are just as likely, if not more so, to be good. So not only does it give the mafia a better majority but it wastes TH's ability anyways.

[vidae]

Originally Posted by Cutey Wooty

Logically if any of them was a protector/watcher or had an important role I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have 5-6 posts in this thread.

Why? Why can't someone with an important role be laying low so they're not picked off?

You haven't made any sense at all in the last like three pages. :P

[vidae]

Originally Posted by jrdrylie

Here's an interesting experiment. It seems like none of us are too convinced that either TH or Brody are actually evil. So who DO we think is evil? Personally, I'm looking at CJ. How about everyone else?

If I had to pick? Wooty. He's going out of his way to get more people killed for some reason.

[BeerBaron]

Originally Posted by jrdrylie

Here's an interesting experiment. It seems like none of us are too convinced that either TH or Brody are actually evil. So who DO we think is evil? Personally, I'm looking at CJ. How about everyone else?

Those who jumped out early on TH should be looked at. Either he is what he claims he is or he's the SK. Either way, not mafia affiliated.

So if Brody is the mafia Roleblocker, then those guys can be looked at as trying to deflect away from him.

[Forenci]

Indeed. I don't understand Woot's "logic" at all. It makes just as much sense for a mafia player to lay low to avoid being killed as it does for a protector or investigator to lay low (to avoid be killed by the SK/mafia).

[Wootylicous]

Originally Posted by vidae

If I had to pick? Wooty. He's going out of his way to get more people killed for some reason.

What is this I don't even....

[BeerBaron]

Also, if someone has a particularly rough character requirement during the day, they could be quieter than normal while still paying attention and sending in their night actions. Would hate to lose an investigator or protector that way.

[SuperMcGee]

There are some people I lean towards being good, but none that I have enough of a point to think are evil. I listed a couple people yesterday whose posts struck me as a little odd when I first read them. One of them was TH, so... I don't know.

[jrdrylie]

Originally Posted by vidae

If I had to pick? Wooty. He's going out of his way to get more people killed for some reason.

Woot is the one who caught TH. I was under the assumption he is good and has a good role. Hmmm

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

Those who jumped out early on TH should be looked at. Either he is what he claims he is or he's the SK. Either way, not mafia affiliated.

So if Brody is the mafia Roleblocker, then those guys can be looked at as trying to deflect away from him.

Eek! That includes me...

[Wootylicous]

Originally Posted by jrdrylie

Woot is the one who caught TH. I was under the assumption he is good and has a good role. Hmmm



Eek! That includes me...

That's because I am good and have a good role

[TitanHope]

Originally Posted by vikes_28

ugh, this puts us in the same spot.

I can't help being a noble bastard.

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

Why? Find fault with my logic here, please. Don't just throw my name out in your dying throes without giving a reason.

I think you normally would have pointed out how my role is essentially being a town aligned SK, and thus a liability. Instead, you repeatedly pointed out how my role has never been in games before, questioned others for being biased towards me, and said I could be lying about being a vigilante to cover up being a SK.

The fact you did the latter instead of the easier former makes it seem like you're going out of your way too much.

[Todd Bertuzzi]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

Also, if someone has a particularly rough character requirement during the day, they could be quieter than normal while still paying attention and sending in their night actions. Would hate to lose an investigator or protector that way.

I think a lot of the obvious clues are for posters who we would expect to have lesser roles like r4l with Damix for example. I don't know if JBond would include clear giveaways to high profile guys who would be expected to have roles like cop, watcher, protector, etc...

[Wootylicous]

If I had to put a list of guys who I think are evil I would put R4L and ATL on the top.

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

Those who jumped out early on TH should be looked at. Either he is what he claims he is or he's the SK. Either way, not mafia affiliated.

So if Brody is the mafia Roleblocker, then those guys can be looked at as trying to deflect away from him.

Does that mean when you're wrong, you can be looked at?

[Brothgar]

Wasn't wooty the one who went after TH to begin with? I'm almost in favor of letting time run out and letting them both die.

[Wootylicous]

I don't think letting both of them die is a good idea.

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by jrdrylie

Here's an interesting experiment. It seems like none of us are too convinced that either TH or Brody are actually evil. So who DO we think is evil? Personally, I'm looking at CJ. How about everyone else?

Still think Bulldogs comes off as evil, and Jensen pointed out his way of playing for this game. Of course everyone seems to be ignoring this.

[TitanHope]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

Does that mean when you're wrong, you can be looked at?

The bad thing about killing me is it allows a built in excuse of, "Well, even if he was good, he was too dangerous to be left alive." Just like with you it, "Well, he could have been a role blocker, and been lying." Those are easy and innocent enough ideas to float out there.

[jrdrylie]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

Still think Bulldogs comes off as evil, and Jensen pointed out his way of playing for this game. Of course everyone seems to be ignoring this.

I must have missed this part.