Week 15 Discussion Thread

[Trogdor]

Originally Posted by fenikz

Kolb to the IR, Lindley named starter

4-0 to 0-12, truly an amazing feat

Fantasy goldmine. IF you own the Lions this week or the Bears next week it could be paydirt. xD

[BeerBaron]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-could-expand/

Oh Goodell....this is on the heels of the ludicrous kickoff replacement.

One thing I hate about other sports but like about the NFL is that the playoffs are more exclusive. In the NBA or NHL where 16 teams make it in, you end up with bottom seeds that are just terrible.

[BuckeyeDan17]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-could-expand/

Oh Goodell....this is on the heels of the ludicrous kickoff replacement.

One thing I hate about other sports but like about the NFL is that the playoffs are more exclusive. In the NBA or NHL where 16 teams make it in, you end up with bottom seeds that are just terrible.

No me gusta

[dan77733]

I love Patriots fans. They think that their team is the best yet dont realize that NE and SF are basically the same - they both LOSE to the Giants. But at least the 49ers didnt lose to them in the Super Bowl....TWICE!!! Hahahaha.

Those games were awesome. Overrated Patriots getting shutdown by the 9-7 Giants twice. Granted, Giants beat the 49ers too but at least it wasnt in the Super Bowl...TWICE!!!

As for Gronkowski, he's overrated. One good season and everyone thinks he's great. Subtract Brady and he becomes just another average TE.

[WCH]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-could-expand/

Oh Goodell....this is on the heels of the ludicrous kickoff replacement.

One thing I hate about other sports but like about the NFL is that the playoffs are more exclusive. In the NBA or NHL where 16 teams make it in, you end up with bottom seeds that are just terrible.

I thought I disliked Tagliabue, and then Goodell took over.

[cmarq83]

Originally Posted by Ness

Where did I say that? What were the exact words? Do you have a quote? Find where you believe I implied Davis was the better of the two tight ends. I don't remember pushing that notion. I remember you mentioned that you thought Davis was a great tight end, but it wasn't a close between the two players and that Gronkowski does everything better. I disagreed with that opinion. Weeks later we're still here.

On the first page of the of the thread that started this all

Razor said:

Originally Posted by Razor

Tony Gonzales!? Not to come off as a massive homer, but Gronkowski has to be the ultimate TE ever. I can't think of a better TE tbh. Perfect build and athleticism to go with his brute strength and football IQ. Add the work ethic and that's the prototype.

To which you responded:

Originally Posted by Ness

Vernon Davis baby.

Then I laughed at you, you made up the term "night and day" and the whole thing devolved from there.

Originally Posted by phlysac

Well I've outgrown it. It's not a "persecution complex" as it is I'm repeatedly lumped into a childish "woah it's the internetz" joke that I wasn't even a part of. It'd get old it you were in my position, too.

If people have a problem with Ness... get at Ness. If you have a problem with abadonn... get at him. If you have an issue with something I've posted, address it.

This constant lumping of "49ers fans" this and "49ers fans" that is not only wrought of hyperbole, it's darn near an outright fallacy.

I've never once, in my thousands of posts personally mocked an individual let alone an entire fanbase in one general swoop.

Fair enough, I generally lump a generic term 49ers fan when talking about Ness/Abbadon/Vaf-ya since it's easier than saying all those names individually. I don't mean to disparage posters like Borat, Brent, or you. I understand that the jokes wear on you, it's the same way that Abaddon/Ness's homerism wears on everyone here. I would like nothing more than to have a some good 9ers discussion because I genuinely like a lot of guys on that team, but when certain fans can't go 2 seconds without over pimping their own guys, some of us are going to make jokes to deal with it.

And yes it's 100% our fault for starting it this week. We're playing you guys, so why not?

[cmarq83]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-could-expand/

Oh Goodell....this is on the heels of the ludicrous kickoff replacement.

One thing I hate about other sports but like about the NFL is that the playoffs are more exclusive. In the NBA or NHL where 16 teams make it in, you end up with bottom seeds that are just terrible.

I feel like Goodell is becoming like a cartoon villain at this point. Can the guy do anything that doesn't immediately piss off virtually everyone?

[cunningham06]

Originally Posted by cmarq83

I feel like Goodell is becoming like a cartoon villain at this point. Can the guy do anything that doesn't immediately piss off virtually everyone?

There needs to be some sort of petition demanding his resignation.

[farfromforgotten]

Originally Posted by Trogdor

Fantasy goldmine. IF you own the Lions this week or the Bears next week it could be paydirt. xD

Just picked up the Lions D this morning. Great news!

[Ness]

Originally Posted by cmarq83

On the first page of the of the thread that started this all

Razor said:


To which you responded:


Then I laughed at you, you made up the term "night and day" and the whole thing devolved from there.

And that still doesn't constitute me implying that Davis was the better player than Gronkowski. The three worded answer that I responded to Razor with was pretty facetious in it's nature to begin with, which is why it was so short. When the conversation got real, which was essentially in my first reply to you, I said he was a good alternative. Then you proceeded to say your rhetoric about Davis not being in the league and doing everything worse than Gronkowski, which I disagreed with. Sorry for the confusion.

[AntoinCD]

Originally Posted by dan77733

I love Patriots fans. They think that their team is the best yet dont realize that NE and SF are basically the same - they both LOSE to the Giants. But at least the 49ers didnt lose to them in the Super Bowl....TWICE!!! Hahahaha.

Those games were awesome. Overrated Patriots getting shutdown by the 9-7 Giants twice. Granted, Giants beat the 49ers too but at least it wasnt in the Super Bowl...TWICE!!!

As for Gronkowski, he's overrated. One good season and everyone thinks he's great. Subtract Brady and he becomes just another average TE.

Ha ha, ha ha, ha ha.

As far as I'm concerned, this whole thing had gotten to a joke stage, and I know I was posting pretty much in jest, in fact the first post in this thread said I was trolling.

But Its not just Pats fans who think this debate is ridiculous. I would be willing to bet if you polled 100 people at least 90 of them would take Gronk as their #1 TE, and those who don't woulddnt pick Davis. And it has nothing to Brady. Gronk benefits from playing with Brady, but Gronk would be successful anywhere

[abaddon41_80]

I don't even know what comments I have made that make me such a homer. I mean, the thing I guess I am well-known for is the Shaun Hill comments but Hill hasn't been on the 49ers in years.

[Smooth Criminal]

People on this board are lunatics. Hard to tell who is trolling, who is under 12, or who is just that far below average intelligence.

[brat316]

Originally Posted by Smooth Criminal

People on this board are lunatics. Hard to tell who is trolling, who is under 12, or who is just that far below average intelligence.

Clearly SP, is both.

[yo123]

I wouldn't really have a problem with the playoffs expanding. If these low seeded teams are so bad then just beat them. Problem solved. Losing the bye week doesn't really matter to me, it's not as big of an advantage as a lot of people think.

[Smooth Criminal]

Playoffs expanding is terrible. Makes getting into the playoffs not an accomplishment. As of now, only NFL and MLB teams can claim any pride in making the playoffs. And in baseball it's almost too rare. Maybe that's just my team though.

But half the league making the playoffs is a joke. I know Goodell wants real football to be like fantasy football but this is dumb.

[Bengalsrocket]

Originally Posted by Smooth Criminal

Playoffs expanding is terrible. Makes getting into the playoffs not an accomplishment. As of now, only NFL and MLB teams can claim any pride in making the playoffs. And in baseball it's almost too rare. Maybe that's just my team though.

But half the league making the playoffs is a joke. I know Goodell wants real football to be like fantasy football but this is dumb.

I'd prefer more teams make it to the playoffs. I couldn't care less if "getting into the playoffs" was an accomplishment. I love the playoff format -- the feeling of "win or go home". If I get to watch more teams go through that emotion, I'll be happier.

The only way more playoff games can hurt is if it makes the regular season less valuable. I don't think adding 2 or 4 more teams would change that though.

[Ness]

Almost 1/3 of the teams make the playoffs. I think that's enough and the feeling of the tournament being mutually exclusive is more appealing I think.

[Ness]

Looks like that Wes Welker thread vanished. Usually the threads just get locked, but they really wanted to sweep that one under the rug. Weird.

[Jvig43]

Originally Posted by Smooth Criminal

Playoffs expanding is terrible. Makes getting into the playoffs not an accomplishment. As of now, only NFL and MLB teams can claim any pride in making the playoffs. And in baseball it's almost too rare. Maybe that's just my team though.

But half the league making the playoffs is a joke. I know Goodell wants real football to be like fantasy football but this is dumb.

Pretty much what this guy said.

[Giantsfan1080]

Not to mention ginger wants to make the game safer yet at every chance he tries to add more games.

[Rosebud]

Originally Posted by Bengalsrocket

I'd prefer more teams make it to the playoffs. I couldn't care less if "getting into the playoffs" was an accomplishment. I love the playoff format -- the feeling of "win or go home". If I get to watch more teams go through that emotion, I'll be happier.

The only way more playoff games can hurt is if it makes the regular season less valuable. I don't think adding 2 or 4 more teams would change that though.

It would make the playoff games less valuable. The giants already barely have to go over .500 to make it in, with two or four more teams gettting in I don't think we'd ever see the giants go over .500 again. Which will eventually lead us to have our first 11-9 superbowl champion

[brat316]

I can't wait till this season is over....well mostly on DC.

This season will go down with the Packers Injurrizzzz,

But what do we call it?

Alex Smith is Eli...but he got benched?
Shaun Hill top 20?
49ers Player A vs B

[brat316]

Originally Posted by Ness

Looks like that Wes Welker thread vanished. Usually the threads just get locked, but they really wanted to sweep that one under the rug. Weird.

It did have some note worthy stuff....though I don't know how it took off after.

[descendency]

Originally Posted by Bengalsrocket

I'd prefer more teams make it to the playoffs. I couldn't care less if "getting into the playoffs" was an accomplishment. I love the playoff format -- the feeling of "win or go home". If I get to watch more teams go through that emotion, I'll be happier.

The only way more playoff games can hurt is if it makes the regular season less valuable. I don't think adding 2 or 4 more teams would change that though.

If you want the NBA, you can have the NBA. But it basically turns the regular season into a bunch of meaningless games.