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Old 04-19-2007, 09:47 AM    (permalink
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True but he is for sure a lock if not something is wrong with how they vote.
No doubt. However, I was going with current players. I wasn't including guys like Rod Smith, Marshall Faulk, Shields, etc. If Ogden retired, I wouldn't include him on my list either.
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I'd say Ray Lewis, Strahan, Bailey, and Urlacher will make it. Ed Reed should make it too. He's been the premier player at the SS position for the last few years now.
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I'd say Ray Lewis, Strahan, Bailey, and Urlacher will make it. Ed Reed should make it too. He's been the premier player at the SS position for the last few years now.
If Urlacher makes it, Reed must make it.
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Reed only has 5 years in the league. Urlacher has 8. Reed is well on his way, but he really only had 1 amazing season (2004). Other than that, he hasn't been so utterly dominant that he is a lock at this point.
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If Ed Reed continues his high level of play for another 4-6 years then I see him as a good candidate. To say he's a lock at this point, as stated by bsaza, is a bit of a stretch, but as a Raven fan I appreciate the support of him.
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Reed only has 5 years in the league. Urlacher has 8. Reed is well on his way, but he really only had 1 amazing season (2004). Other than that, he hasn't been so utterly dominant that he is a lock at this point.
Reed actually has 6. I would say Reed has been the best safety in the league for longer than Urlacher has been the best middle linebacker.
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Fine, add Reed to my "eventually" list, even though he has another 7 years in the league...
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Reed actually has 6. I would say Reed has been the best safety in the league for longer than Urlacher has been the best middle linebacker.
No 5 is the correct amount of years he has tenured in the NFL. He was a 1st round pick in 2002.
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Younger guys like Shawne Merriman, Reggie Bush, Larry Fitzgerald, etc. don't have the experience or the numbers to make it, so I didn't include them
i can't believe you even mentioned reggie bush and merriman......WAAAAAAAYYY too early for any of that talk
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No 5 is the correct amount of years he has tenured in the NFL. He was a 1st round pick in 2002.
Oh, for some reason NFL.com lists him as having 6 years of NFL experience.
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i can't believe you even mentioned reggie bush and merriman......WAAAAAAAYYY too early for any of that talk
I mentioned younger guys who have started out well as examples of why my list was so short. Thanks for completely missing the point...
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Oh, for some reason NFL.com lists him as having 6 years of NFL experience.
I guess technically this is the 2007 season so it would be his 6th year in the league but thats just splitting hairs as it were.
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I am willing to add Reed to my list of likely future HOFers, but I'd like to see another season close to his 2004 output before I finalize that conclusion.
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I have to say that I expected more resistance from you guys about the content of my HOF list. Is it possible that I just nailed the list in most cases?
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If Edge would have stayed in Indy I think he would be getting more serious consideration.
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I have to say that I expected more resistance from you guys about the content of my HOF list. Is it possible that I just nailed the list in most cases?
Being the self proclaimed "America's Poster" allows you to make lists that become gospel to the masses.
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Well, even "America's Poster" has his detractors. I'm sure there are a bunch of other people out there who think me calling myself "America's Poster" is an insult to all the bloggers out there...
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I will say that I'm always interested in getting it right at all costs. I'd rather be called a moron and learn the right thing than be wrong and not be told.
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That is a proud and courageous statement and I for one salute you sir. Knowledge is Power, and the Power can be yours if you really want it.
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My HS class ring has a side that says, "Knowledge is Power". So ironic, Alanis Morrisette should be notified immediately.
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Should Shaun Alexander get in?
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Alexander hasn't been that consistently impressive to me. He has a history of injuries that have limited him significantly. If he can bounce back and have a 1600 yard, 20 TD season, I'd put him on the list. Right now, he's kind of a flash in the pan type. Honestly, Clinton Portis is more likely to get in the HOF right now.
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Should Shaun Alexander get in?
I gather you didn't read this thread from the beginning so allow me to show you the previous statement on Shaun Alexander:

"Note: I am putting down players with significant NFL service time who already have a legitimate HOF resume. Players like Shawn Alexander and Randy Moss need to prove more to me in terms of production before they can be considered stronger candidates for Canton. Younger guys like Shawne Merriman, Reggie Bush, Larry Fitzgerald, etc. don't have the experience or the numbers to make it, so I didn't include them." posted by bsaza


So the accepted answer is at this point in time No he should not.
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I didn't know that Alexander was unproductive. He was injured last year, but before that he was an endzone machine.
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I never said Alexander was unproductive. He has had several other injuries in his career besides the problems of 2006. His overall numbers are not incredibly consistent. If he goes and reels off 3 straight solid, pro bowl-type years, I will be convinced. He has had 2 dominant years, but he needs to show he is more than that before I will readily put him in as a likely HOF-er.
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