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Old 12-13-2012, 12:01 AM    (permalink
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Probably time for everyone to pump the breaks a bit.

Remember, we don't have all of the information and it won't come until the Scouting Combine.

There may well be no issues at all.
Umm Scott, we never have all the information in regards to medicals.
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or Robert Quinn's brain tumor?
Didn't Daquan Bowers have some issue that caused him to drop?
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:11 AM    (permalink
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Didn't Gronk have a similar spinal issue that caused him to drop off some teams boards entirely?
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Old 12-13-2012, 11:18 AM    (permalink
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Didn't Gronk have a similar spinal issue that caused him to drop off some teams boards entirely?
Yes, as does Nick Collins (which has been an issue for him throughout his career). Chris Samuels did too, aided in cutting his career short.

It is also the reason Cooper Manning never played football at a significant level.

It isn't like a virus where you either have it or you don't, there are so many varying degrees to spinal stenosis.
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Yes, as does Nick Collins (which has been an issue for him throughout his career).
Are you sure about that? The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and Green Bay Press Gazette were reporting, after Nick Collins' injury last year, that he had no prior history of spinal stenosis.

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Good news for Collins, though, is that he does not have stenosis, according to Herman. Stenosis is a narrowing of the spinal column, and players who have it and sustain neck injuries often have to retire.
(N.B. Alan Herman is Nick Collins' agent)

The Packers ended up waiving him after their doctors concluded that playing after surgery would put him at significant risk of catastrophic injury if he suffered another spinal cord compression type injury (which is something safeties are at comparatively high risk for). This is more or less what stenosis means (you're fine, but if you suffer a spinal compression injury it can very bad).

Certainly there's degrees of it (it's essentially just narrowing of the spinal column, so there's a continuum of it), but the Packers parted way with Collins (as well as Terrence Murphy and Jeremy Thompson, and Tim Lewis back in the 80s) because their doctors concluded that their neck conditions put them at too high a risk of significant spinal cord injuries, not because they could no longer play.

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This issue will be discussed over and over, but it doesn't appear anyone really knows how much this will affect Jones. It may push Jones out of the top 10, but he's too good to get out of the top 20.
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If there is an issue I don't think that it should bring down his draft stock at all. Since he is a pass rusher I don't see why he can't at least be a great situational rusher if his body gets to the point where he can't be a full time player anymore.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:27 AM    (permalink
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Certainly there's degrees of it (it's essentially just narrowing of the spinal column, so there's a continuum of it), but the Packers parted way with Collins (as well as Terrence Murphy and Jeremy Thompson, and Tim Lewis back in the 80s) because their doctors concluded that their neck conditions put them at too high a risk of significant spinal cord injuries, not because they could no longer play.
Also, Sterling Sharpe in the 90s. Sharpe wasn't eager to retire, so the Packers granted him a release. Holmgren told him "You might be able to play for somebody, but you can't play for us." I think a couple of teams gave him a workout, but they agreed that the risk was too large.

Sterling had been having problems for some time before his official "injury" and he began wearing this helmet strap:

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