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View Poll Results: Who's your MVP entering Sunday week 12
P Manning 28 50.00%
A Rodgers 4 7.14%
T Brady 12 21.43%
R Griffin 1 1.79%
D Brees 3 5.36%
M Ryan 2 3.57%
A Peterson 4 7.14%
A Foster 0 0%
M Lynch 1 1.79%
Other: Who? 1 1.79%
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:07 AM    (permalink
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Manning, Brady, Peterson in that order.
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1, to credit JJ Watt and completely overlook Von Miller being just as dominant, if not more dominant than Watt.
No. Just no.
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This must be the dumbest post I have ever read on here, and that is saying something.
1, to credit JJ Watt and completely overlook Von Miller being just as dominant, if not more dominant than Watt.
2, the award is most valuable. Peyton Manning has turned the Broncos around and made them a force on offense, which greatly helps the defense. Manning changed teams, new players, "new" scheme, and he still has put up amazing numbers and made the Broncos a legit Super Bowl contender after everybody had been laughing at them for playing Tebow.

Peyton isn't playing a new scheme. THat's essentially the same O he ran in Indy.

IMO JJ Watt is having a more dominant season than Von Miller. Both look beast, but for a down Dlineman to be as disruptive as JJ Watt has been off the snap is crazy.
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wait. Brady's only thrown 3 int's the whole year? woah.

How could anyone not say he's the mvp? goodness.

He's on a whole 'nother level
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Yeah Miller is a beast in his own right but for the first half of this season I was ready to say Watt should be considered seriously for mvp. He was just absolutely beasting, and even tho the stats wont show it much he still got to Brady pretty frequently the other night.

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wait. Brady's only thrown 3 int's the whole year? woah.

How could anyone not say he's the mvp? goodness.

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As of right now, I would have to say Tony Romo.
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We're talking about the MVP, not LVP. Keep up D, gosh.
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I did but clearly you didn't want to actually read what I said. I stated that Peterson makes the Vikings from being a bad team to a middle of the road team. Brady makes the Pats consistent Superbowl contenders and the only year they haven't won the division with him there since 2002 was the year he was hurt. When talking of relative value then how does that not make sense?.
I was just picking out your example. When your starting QB goes down, you pray to hell you can win 11 games. You simply say they missed the playoffs (before, now it's you not winning the division). You won 11 games. That is an anomaly. You didn't miss the playoffs because Brady went down, but because the AFC had a season with teams of ridiculous records.

Winning 11 games with your backup QB. Sounds like a lot of talent and coaching all around. It'd be amazing if the Vikings could win 11 games with their starting quarterback.

I know, that was years ago. Has no bearing with this Patriots team now. I just didn't like that example.

I think Tom should win it, but I'd like Adrian to.
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Peterson. Vikings would have like 2 wins without him.
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Another edge for Brady over Mannning: NE has scored like 90 more points than any other team in the NFL this year.
They are a juggernaut.
A steam roller.
And Mr Giselle is the captain of that ship.
Brady, as of right now (3 big games remain), is the #1 QB, edging Manning, with Arod in 3rd.

But Peterson is head & shoulders above all other RBs.... Watt slight edge over Von Miller and Alden Slim Shady Smith.

The Vikings would be 0-13 without Peterson.
Their 7 wins are all because of him.
We've seen NE win 10 games without Brady as Little Bill is God on the sidelines.
Denver made the playoffs, won a playoff game, with a QB last year who can't even get a snap for a horrible Jets offense this year.

Peterson>Brady>Manning
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The Vikings were 15-1 in 1998 without AD, so clearly they can play just fine without him.
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They had Randy Moss and Chris Carter then. Apples to grapes bro
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Myth: The Patriots didn't miss Brady the year he was injured!

Reality: They went from being almost 19-0 in 2007 to being 11-5 and missing the playoffs in 2008.

I believe 2008 was the only year the Patriots have not made the playoffs in the last decade.
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It was a fluke the Pats missed the playoffs at 11-5, and I think it was the only time in the 16 game era a team with that record has missed the playoffs.

Winning 11 games without Brady is impressive to me.
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I believe 2008 was the only year the Patriots have not made the playoffs in the last decade.
They didn't make the playoffs in 2002. Don't know if you're counting this season though.
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It was a fluke the Pats missed the playoffs at 11-5, and I think it was the only time in the 16 game era a team with that record has missed the playoffs.

Winning 11 games without Brady is impressive to me.
The 1985 Broncos also missed the playoffs with 11 wins.
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nothing the pats did that season is remotely relevant to this season. it'll be awesome when it stops being part of the conversation.
The Colts also went like 2-14 last year, hence Manning is the mvp this year. Am I doing this right?
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JJ Watt. Felt like every play that was made yesterday against us there he was.
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If Peterson breaks the rushing record and the Vikings make the playoffs, he's got to be the MVP.

If he doesn't break it but comes close and the Vikings make the playoffs I still think I give it to him.

If he breaks it and they miss, I think I go with a QB.

If he doesn't break it and they don't make the playoffs I go with a QB.
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Why does it matter if Peterson breaks a record? The MVP should go to the MVP, regardless of statistical records. Would it hurt AD's cause if he finished 1 yard shy of the record? Brees didn't get the MVP last year after throwing the most yards ever. The most important thing is that he keeps playing well and the Vikings keep winning.
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It doesn't really matter to me which is why I said I'd give it to him if he came close and they made the playoffs.

But voters would absolutely be more inclined to vote for him if he broke the record.

They wouldn't want to be part of the trivia question: what NFL running back broke the rushing record but didn't win MVP?
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It doesn't really matter to me which is why I said I'd give it to him if he came close and they made the playoffs.

But voters would absolutely be more inclined to vote for him if he broke the record.

They wouldn't want to be part of the trivia question: what NFL running back broke the rushing record but didn't win MVP?
I know this one: Eric Dickerson!
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Updated Voting:
  1. Adrian Peterson* 1,812 yards rushing, 6.3 per carry, 11 TD's, 8-6 record
  2. Peyton Manning* 103.5 passer rating, 31/10 TD/Int, 11-3 record
  3. Aaron Rodgers* 104.7 passer rating, 32/8 TD/Int, 11-3 record
  4. Tom Brady* 100.1 passer rating, 30/6 TD/Int, 10-4 record

I'm confident in this voting.
The only thing I struggle is who I would put at #5 right now.
That's a debate that interests me, but this above? That's pretty solid right there bro.
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