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End Season Mock pt II *Bowls* 3 Rounds
sup. updated 1/14
returning: - Jake Matthews - Taylor Lewan - C.J. Mosley - Anthony Barr - Jason Verett - Logan Thomas - Jordan Matthews - J.Jeffcoat - Antone Exum - Rico Allen - Justin Gilbert - Gabe Jackson - Jonathan Brown - Aaron Murray
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1. Kansas City Chiefs James "Tyler" Wilson /QB/ Arkansas:
Never seen a guy take as many lights out shots but keep getting up and producing. If the past 2 seasons for the Razorbacks hasn't ruined him he'll be a more then solid pro. Plays with a chip that he'll bring to any team. Great arm talent/adequate mobility. And doing it with only one real weapon-having almost an identical season as last year's when he was supposedly surrounded with top WR talent. I'd take him over any other QB in this class. NFL comp. Tony Romo
2. Jacksonville Jaguars - Bjoern Werner* /DE-OLB/ Florida State:
I haven't been really high on Werner but he's showed a knack for playing big in big games. Have him now as the first DE taken because he gets off the ball better then anyone in this class. NFL comp. Chris Long
3. Oakland Raiders Star Lotulelei /DT/ Utah:
Dennis Allen's already on the hot seat. Safe bet they take the highest rated defender available here. NFL comp. Ndamukong Suh
*previous DaMontre Moore
4. Philadelphia Eagles Luke Joeckel* /OT/ Texas A&M:
Yes, its hoped Peters stays upright and makes it back but hell be entering the downside of his career coming off a serious injury. Joeckel is possibly the surest offense side player available and if the new Eagles regime wants to play it safe, hes their guy. NFL comp. Joe Thomas
5. Detroit Lions - Ezekiel Ansah /DE/ BYU:
A one year wonder and raw but much further along then he should be with his experience. Incredible athlete at 270lbs that will shine at the combine. Already an outstanding run defender, if he responds quickly to pro coaching in the upcoming workouts/practices and shows he can come off the ball better, he'll be a top ten pick. In a bizarre twist, Suh might make a great mentor him. NFL Comp. Mario Williams
*previous Manti Te'o
6. Cleveland Browns DaMontre Moore* /DE/ Texas A&M:
I thought Moore would have a strong season but he looks better then I envisioned. Huge fan now. They moved him to DE after playing as a stand up OLB last year and he's dominating. He's everything you hope Mingo can be. He can play up or down and moves around in the Aggies defense. Jarvis Jones should be the pick but I think Lombardi will pass. NFL comp. Willie McGinest
*previous Dion Jordan
7. Arizona Cardinals - Matt Barkley /QB/ USC:
Barkley's extremely hard to project. He's getting knocked for this season's performance and the lack of measurables but i'm not willing to bet against him. He's got elite timing and accuracy and very sneaky athleticism in the pocket. NFL comp. Drew Brees
8. TRADE Indianapolis Colts (BUF) Jarvis Jones* /OLB-DE/ Georgia:
Jones' medical condition is downright scary. How far he drops because of it is the question. He's been playing at a high level with the condition for awhile but even if there isn't a catastrophe in his future, his longevity is seriously in question. For now he's a first rounder but he will be taken off a lot of teams boards. Theres a good chance if/when he falls a team that really covets him and is confident in his health trades up for him. (Grigson) NFL comp. Chad Brown
9. New York Jets - Dion Jordan /DE-OLB/ Oregon:
Recent news of surgery to repair torn labrum should prevent Jordan from showing out in pre draft workouts and halting a likely draft board rise. Especially raw, but the mobility of a DB and the size of a DE. NFL comp. Mathias Kiwanuka
*previous Tyler Bray
10. Tennessee Titans - Sheldon Richardson* /DT/ Missouri:
Actually considered Elam this high but a dominating interior pass rusher could get the Titans D over the hump. That said, Martin and Cassey are pretty solid DTs but neither are great pass rushers. Richardson is ridiculously athletic for a bigger guy. NFL Comp. Darnell Docket
*previous Ezekiel Ansah
11. San Diego Chargers Oday Aboushi /OT/ Virginia:
I like Joeckel & Matthews, but Oday is right up there with them imo and more athletic then either. If he dominates like I think he will senior week, with Matthews and Lewan returning, he'll go higher then most expect. NFL comp.
*previous Taylor Lewan, Jake Matthews
12. Miami Dolphins Tyler Eifert /TE/ Notre Dame:
Eifert is underrated and I think his stock will soar as the draft gets closer. NFL Comp. Jimmy Graham
13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Dee Milliner*/CB/ Alabama:
With so few top CBs in this class, Milliner would probably be wise to declare. I def don't see a top ten guy but, who knows, Gilmore went there last year. Right now I think he's just top 20. NFL Comp. Terrell Thomas
14. Carolina Panthers Cordarrelle Patterson*/WR/Tennessee:
Incredible open field runner for a taller guy. Extremely raw but his upside is off the charts. Smitty could be a strong mentor to help him perfect his craft. NFL Comp. Josh Cribbs -but with elite lateral quickness.
*previous Star Lotulelei
15. TRADE Chicago Bears (NO) - Chance Warmack /OG/ Alabama:
Bears should be serious about the offensive line this draft and make sure they get an upgrade. They give up a 14' 3rd and this year's 4th to grab Warmack here. I'm not sure, though, if it makes more sense to stay put and look at Aboushi. What say you Bear backers? NFL Comp. Jahri Evans
*previous Taylor Lewan
16. St. Louis Rams - Eric Fisher /OT/Central Michigan:
Fisher needs more work but he's a fiery bulked up TE with a lot of upside. NFL comp Joe Staley
*previous Oday Aboushi, Chance Warmack
17. Pittsburgh Steelers - Keenan Allen* /WR/ California:
Te'o's very tempting but Allens worth a top ten pick. His stock might take a hit if he recovers slowly from his late season knee injury and Patterson/Austin blaze. NFL Comp. Javon Walker
*previous Cordarrelle Patterson
18. Dallas Cowboys - Jesse Williams /NT/ Alabama:
Not yet getting enough recognition. Williams should become a beast of an interior lineman in the NFL-able to play in any scheme. With the emergence of the Redskins and a likely shift on offense by the Eagles next season with a fresh QB and 2 big time RBs, the Cowboys better be prepared to defend the run. NFL Comp. Antonio Garay
19. New York Giants - Barkevious Mingo*/DE-OLB/ LSU:
Mingo is expected to blow everyone away at the combine but he's doing almost nothing as a part time player this season. Still, he could be something like a better Michael Johnson. NFL comp. Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
*previous Oday Aboushi
20. TRADE New Orleans Saints (CHI) - Matt Elam*/S /Florida:
As little as he is, if he declares he could rise in this class. Harper has been a liability against the pass for too long. NFL Comp. Dante Whitner
*previous Sheldon Richardson
21. Cincinnati Bengals - Arthur Brown /LB/ Kansas St:
Checked back on ND games for Te'o after that horrid bowl game and compared him with Brown and Minter (vs Miami, Oregon, & A&M). Got to say now that Brown is possibly the best ILB prospect of the three. Undersized but doesn't play like it. He can thump inside while also looking great in space. If the Bengals are looking for a more dynamic upgrade from Mauluga, he's their guy. If he times and tests strong, look for him to rise. Comp. Jon Beason
*previous Matt Elam, Eric Reid
22. St. Louis Rams (WAS) - Tavon Austin /WR-RB/ West Virginia:
Rams could go in other directions but Austin is a top 20 prospect and fits in especially well imo. NFL comp. Darren Sproles
23. Minnesota Vikings - Terrance Williams /WR/ Baylor:
Wiiliams has size and speed but it's his quick feet that I think will make him Baylor's 3rd straight first round pick. Sort of a first round sleeper that should generate momentum after senior week practices. NFL comp. Jeremy Maclin
*previous Keenan Allen
24 TRADE Buffalo Bills (IND) - Ryan Nassib /QB/ Syracuse:
OK-there's no denying now that the Bills would be best served going the same route the Dolphins took last season and draft the QB their recently signed OC & HC coached at SU. Nassib's skill set doesn't set the world on fire but he does everything well and makes good decisions. He's a hard nosed competitor and leader that some GM/HC will fall in love with. Bills could pick up an extra 1st (14') from Indy to drop down and go after their QB. NFL Comp. Christian Ponder
*previous Tyler Bray
25. TRADE. Philadelphia Eagles (SEA) - Geno Smith /QB/ West Virginia
Napoleon's done surprisingly well but it's hard to see a new regime completely confident with him for their future. Once a possible #1 overall pick, Smith's confidence has taken a major hit during WVU's losing skid. He looks rattled and it's affected his accuracy and decision making. Still, his physical skills and arm talent are solid, and he generally shows great poise and always top notch work ethic. NFL comp. Aaron Brooks
26. TRADE New York Jets (GB) - Tyler Bray* /QB/ Tennessee:
As the pre-draft workouts edge closer I think it'll become clear that Bray has the most arm talent of any QB in this class. The question will be where his head's at. He's got a Cutler/Stafford caliber arm but seemingly the intangibles of Matt Leinart. If coached well he'll be the 2nd best QB out of this group. Rex has stated he wants a more aggressive, attacking offense. With Bray's arm that's entirely possible. Rex is also the type of master motivator that Bray could really respond to. NFL Comp. Ryan Mallett
*previous Ryan Nassib, Brian Winters
27. Houston Texans Eric Reid* /S/LSU:
Reid started off the season slow but has really picked it up of late. NFL comp. William Moore
*previous Matt Elam
28. Denver Broncos - Eddie Lacy*/RB/ Alabama:
Superbly talented but also playing behind a phenomenal line. Still his feet, agility and speed at 225+ is special. NFL Comp. Steven Jackson
*previous LeVeon Bell
29. Baltimore Ravens - Manti Te'o /LB/ Notre Dame:
Perhaps I'm jumping the gun, but Te'o's performance against the first NFL caliber front he's faced was pretty awful. Some games count more then others and based off that championship game, it's hard to still justify him as a top 10 pick. His play reminds me of Mauluga but his intangibles are Ray Lewis. NFL comp. Rey Mauluga
*previous Barkevius Mingo
30. Atlanta Falcons - Margus Hunt /DE/ SMU:
Overaged but ought to be a first rounder and really a bargain as a late first rounder.
*previous Corey Lemonier
31. New England Patriots - Jonathan Hankins* /DT/ Ohio State:
Top 15 talent but questionable motor and poor game tape late has his stock dropping. But BB likes his DTs.
32. San Francisco 49ers - Corey Lemonier* /DE/ Auburn:
Lemonier has been one of the most consistent rushers in the country for awhile. NFL Comp. Shawn Merriman
*previous Margus Hunt
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33. Jacksonville Jaguars - Mike Glennon /QB/ NC State:
I think Henne is playing well enough to be the starter moving forward but the next HC will want a guy to groom as well. I was initially impressed how Glennon's came along this season...then I took a look at him vs Virginia and it all fell apart-ditto his bowl game. Might pick up big numbers in the right offense but will probably never shake the tendency to make unforced mistakes. Buyer beware. NFL Comp. Derek Anderson
*previous Tyler Bray, Ryan Nassib, E.J. Manuel
34. Kansas City Chiefs Cobi Hamilton /WR/ Arkansas:
Huge fan of Hamilton. He's been unstoppable for the Razorbacks this season and has no weaknesses to his game. NFL Comp. - Denarius Moore
35. TRADE Seattle Seahawks (PHI) Alec Ogletree* /LB/ Georgia:
Fills the stat sheet on a talented Georgia D but is still pretty raw. NFL Comp. Kevin Burnett
36. Detroit Lions - Johnthan Banks /CB/ Mississippi St:
Stock depends on how well he looks senior week. NFL Comp. DRC
*previous Xavier Rhodes
37. Cincinnati Bengals (OAK) Xavier Rhodes /CB-S/ Florida State:
Rhodes has the size and tackling ability to play safety if needed. NFL comp. Gary Baxter
*previous Johnthan Banks
38. Arizona Cardinals - D.J. Fluker* /OT/Alabama:
Good coaching and D.J.'s a pro bowler.
39. Cleveland Browns (supp) - Josh Gordon /WR/ Baylor:
Supplemental pick Flash has been the Browns best WR this season. That's good and bad. NFL comp. Vincent Jackson
40. TRADE Green Bay Packers (NYJ) - Giovanni Bernard* /RB/ North Carolina:
Not as fast as the big runs would indicate and has some durability concerns, but can make something out of nothing with impressive natural running skills. NFL Comp. Ahmad Bradshaw
41. Tennessee Titans Jonathan Cooper /OG/ North Carolina:
Smart, athletic guard some view as better then Warmack. NFL Comp. Davin Joseph
42. Buffalo Bills Kevin Minter* /LB/ LSU:
Not flashy but Minter looks lke a solid pro ILB.
*previous Alex Okafor, Sam Montgomery
43. Miami Dolphins Will Davis /CB/ Utah State:
Out of nowhere man press guy who can help his stock with a good showing senior week.
*previous D.J. Fluker
44. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Logan Ryan* /CB/ Rutgers:
Under the radar guy having a strong season on a great defense. Size, ball skills-needs to show well in the post season to rise. NFL Comp. Leon Hall
45. Carolina Panthers - Sylvester Williams /DT/ UNC:
Looks a little like Geno Atkins.
*previous Justin Hunter
46. New Orleans Saints forfeited:
47. San Diego Chargers E.J. Manuel /QB/ Florida State:
Took a long look at E.J. and even though his skill set is ideal, he struggles to make the easy plays. Boom/bust prospect that will sink or swim depending on the coaching and situation. NFL comp. Dante Culpepper
*previous Logan Thomas
48. St Louis Rams Kenny Vaccaro /S/ Texas:
The tatted one has not had a stellar season but is still a solid prospect and one of the few high rated in this draft.
*previous Dallas Thomas
49. Dallas Cowboys - Barrett Jones /OC-OG/ Alabama:
Will become more valuable because of his versatility.
50. Pittsburgh Steelers - Le'Veon Bell* /RB/ Michigan State:
Possibly the most slept on prospect right now. Mired on a terrible college offense, Bell will end up a steal in the NFL. Eddie George
*previous Eddie Lacy
51. New York Giants Lane Johnson /OT/ Oklahoma:
Competes straight away at OT.
*previous Alex Okafor
52. Chicago Bears - Jordan Reed* /TE/ Florida:
Probably a longshot to declare. I've come down on him just a bit. He's still an underrated talent but not quite pre motorcycle K2. NFL Comp. Aaron Hernandez
53. Washington Redskins Tony Jefferson* /S/ Oklahoma:
Solid but unspectacular guy upgrades the Skins secondary.
*previous Kenny Vaccaro
54. Minnesota Vikings Alex Okafor /DE/ Texas:
Okafor is the best Texas defender imo. NFL Comp. Michael Bennett
*previous Khassem Greene
53. Cincinnati Bengals Khassem Greene /OLB/ Rutgers:
Former safety who's become a dominant defender and arguably the top OLB in the draft.
55. Miami Dolphins (IND) Justin Pugh* /OT/ Syracuse:
Well regarded OL who wouldn't have come out unless he got a fairly decent grade from the advisory. NFL Comp. Eric Steinbach
*previous Phillip Thomas
56. Green Bay Packers Sam Montgomery* /DE/ LSU:
Another guy I'm not really sold on but it's hard to tell with all the talent on LSU. Certainly took a hit to his stock after A&M. NFL comp. (taller) Brandon Graham
*previous Lane Johnson
57. Seattle Seahawks - Shariff Floyd* /DT/ Florida:
Big motored, talented DT/DE to add to the mix.
*previous Kawaan Short, Sylvester Williams
58. Houston Texans Datone Jones /DE/ UCLA:
Athletic for his size and ideally suited for 34 DE. NFL Comp. Cameron Jordan
59. Denver Broncos Gavin Escobar* /TE/ San Diego St
Big athletic TE who blocks and moves extremely well for his size. NFL Comp. Jason Witten
*previous Robert Alford, John Jenkins
60. Baltimore Ravens DeAndre Hopkins* /WR/ Clemson:
Hopkins is stepping up big this season for Clemson. The only drawback might be how fast he actually is. NFL comp. Nate Burleson
*previous Stedman Bailey, Justin Hunter
61. Atlanta Falcons - Dion Sims* /TE/ Michigan St:
Probably a longshot to declare but he's foremost a bear of a blocker but with great hands and potential in the passing game. NFL Comp. Marcedes Lewis
62. New England Patriots Stedman Bailey*/WR/ West Virginia:
High on Bailey since last year when I thought he physically abused Mo Claiborne at the los and out quicked him in the open field. He's underrated due to his big play teammate and should go higher. NFL Comp. Lance Moore
*previous Denard Robinson
63. San Francisco 49ers Justin Hunter* /WR/Tennessee:
Possible deep & red zone threat if he comes back fully from his knee injury. NFL comp. Malcolm Floyd
*previous Robert Woods
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64. Kansas City Chiefs Jordan Poyer /CB/ Oregon State:
Not the biggest fan of Poyer but he's consistent and productive. NFL Comp. Cary Williams
*previous John Jenkins, Robert Alford
65. Jacksonville Jaguars Leon McFadden /CB/ San Diego State:
Smallish but solid all around CB prospect. NFL Comp. Leonard Johnson
*previous Jordan Poyer
66. Detroit Lions Denard Robinson /WR-RB/ Michigan:
Just an explosive playmaker who plays bigger then his size wherever you line him up. NFL Comp. Percy Harvin
*previous DeAndre Hopkins, John Simon, Margus Hunt
67. Oakland Raiders John Simon /DE/ Ohio State:
He'll drop some because he's an inbetweener but he's one of those potential mid round steals.
*previous DeAndre Hopkins, Shane Skov
68. TRADE Seattle Seahawks (PHI) Robert Woods* /WR/ USC:
Woods is now the forgotten guy with Lee breaking out. What I like most is his toughness. NFL comp. Santonio Holmes
*previous: DeAndre Hopkins
69. Cleveland Browns T.J. McDonald /S/ USC:
Browns have a great big hole at S. NFL Comp.
*previous Antone Exum (returning)
70. Arizona Cardinals - Dallas Thomas /OG-OT/ Tennessee:
Versatile and athletic helps out inside and outside.
71. Tennessee Titans Shawn Williams /S/ Georgia:
Testing well will really help his status and solidify him as a mid round guy.
*previous T.J. McDonald
72. Buffalo Bills Da'Rick Rogers* /WR/ Tenn. Tech:
Should probably stay another year but circumstances might have him declaring. NFL Comp. Kenny Britt
*previous Gavin Escobar
73. TRADE Green Bay Packers (NYJ) - Kiko Alonso /LB/ Oregon :
If he can convince teams his off field antics are entirely behind him, he could go here or higher with his talent.
*previous Kyle Van Noy
74. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ace Sanders*/WR/South Carolina:
Lightening quick jumpstarter for the offense and sts. NFL Comp. Devin Hester
*previous Brennen Williams
75. San Francisco 49ers (CAR) Zach Ertz* /TE/ Stanford:
Ertz doesn't look as good a prospect to me as Fleener, who went high 2nd last year but underperformed as a rookie. Ertz could be a replacement for FA Walker and is still a bargain in the 3rd. NFL Comp. Dennis Pitta
*previous Joseph Fauria
76. New Orleans Saints - Kyle Long /OT/ Oregon:
Bushrod?
77. San Diego Chargers Joseph Randle /RB/ Oklahoma St.:
Quietly stepped up his game in the absence of Weeden and Blackmon. A complete back who should go higher then this. If he continues to get stronger as a pro, he'll be a pro bowl back. NFL comp. softer - DaMarco Murray
*previous Shane Skov, Andre Ellington
78. Miami Dolphins Gerald Hodges /LB/ Penn State:
Overlooked guy showing the ability at the Shrine to play inside and outside.
*previous Leon McFadden, Da'Rick Rogers
79. St. Louis Rams Brian Winters /OG-OT/ Kent State:
Unheralded prospect that destroys opponents in the run game creating some late season buzz.
*previous T.J. McDonald
80. Pittsburgh Steelers Andrew Jackson*/LB/Western Kentucky:
Small school destroyer looks like he could fit.
81. Dallas Cowboys - Montee Ball /RB/ Wisconsin:
Planning for Murray to get through all 16 gms is just wishful thinking.
*previous Gio Bernard, Da'Rick Rogers
82. New York Giants Bruce Taylor /LB/ Virginia Tech:
Quietly productive prospect that plays run/pass well and rushes effectively.
*previous Jon Bostic
83. Miami Dolphins (CHI) John Jenkins /DT/ Georgia:
Bust potential for sure but you can't coach up size + motor. Jenkins gets blown off the ball too often for a guy of his size but massive DTs who can move and hustle are rare commodities-I guess. NFL comp. Shaun Smith
*previous Gerald Hodges
84. Minnesota Vikings Zac Dysert /QB/ Miami (Ohio):
QB competition. And Webb can be sent packing. NFL Comp. Kyle Orton
85. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Ellington /RB/ Clemson:
Missing that explosive homerun hitter. NFL Comp. Chris Johnson
*previous John Simon
86. Washington Redskins - Nickel Roby* /CB/ Ohio State:
Small man to man tough guy.
*previous Tyrann Mathieu
87. Indianapolis Colts - Larry Warford /OG/ Kentucky:
Athletic for his size will get him drafted higher then his play warrants.
88. Seattle Seahawks Brennan Williams /OT/UNC:
Coming back from injury, if everything works out, could wind up a steal.
*previous Rick Wagner
89. Green Bay Packers - Mychal Rivera /TE/ Tennessee.:
Finley is such a disappointment.
90. Houston Texans Phillip Thomas /S/ Fresno St:
Getting buzz as the first S taken, idk about that..
*previous Joseph Fauria
91. Denver Broncos - Quinton Patton /WR/ Louisiana Tech:
Not fast but great feet and stop and start ability with solid size. NFL Comp. Donald Driver
92. Baltimore Ravens - Baccari Rambo /S/ Georgia:
Might wind up a better pro then teammate Williams.
93. Atlanta Falcons Kawaan Short /DT/ Purdue:
When his motors on, he's a top 20 guy. He could drop because of inconsistency but he'll probably generate buzz though senior week. NFL Comp. Phil Taylor
*previous Brandon Williams
94. New England Patriots Tank Carradine /DE/ Florida St:
It worked with Cannon.
95.San Francisco 49ers Bennie Logan* /DE/ LSU:
LSU underclassman sale.
*previous Brandon Jenkins, Kyle Van Oy
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I like that Chiefs draft for the most part, but Cobi Hamilton has the dropsies. I'd rather have Justin Hunter there.
I love the other two picks though, and you got all the positions right. +1
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Nice job on 3 rounds this early. Hard to project players but I like the Skins taking a Safety first. I think it could end up being either of the UGA guys instead, but whatever, position is correct
Disagree on the TE tho. Im assuming Fred Davis will be back, Logan Paulsen has filled in admirably, and the staff loves Niles Paul. Too much of a luxury pick
I think out of our first 3 picks we need OL, Secondary and WR/playmaker help so given the Vaccaro pick I would look at Da'Rick or the OT's going soon after. Or flip it and we take Robert Woods/Barret Jones in the 2nd and Rambo in the 3rd
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2010: Patrick Robinson --> Check
2011: Mark Ingram --> Check
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2013: Kenny Vaccaro --> Check
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Cobi is the epitome of a body catcher. I like Tyler Wilson a lot. Id rather Banks or Hunter
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Crabtree is basically a bust? That makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Also random question, but you don't see Giovanni Bernard going in the first 3 rounds? Or did I just miss him?
Dallas first 2 rounds you nailed, I'd also be happy with swapping and goingEric Reid in the 1st and Barrett Jones in the 2nd, or Warmack in the 1st and Vaccarro in the 2nd. Those are both huge needs also.
WR is just a no-no in the first 3 rounds. We have Dez as the 1, Austin locked in as the 2 for a few more years at minimum, Dwayne Harris has emerged as the PR guy, slot WR or outside guy and he's made plays, while Beasley does great in the slot. We just have too many needs on the o-line, Safety, and NT now.
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Crabtree is basically a bust? That makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Also random question, but you don't see Giovanni Bernard going in the first 3 rounds? Or did I just miss him?
Dallas first 2 rounds you nailed, I'd also be happy with swapping and goingEric Reid in the 1st and Barrett Jones in the 2nd, or Warmack in the 1st and Vaccarro in the 2nd. Those are both huge needs also.
WR is just a no-no in the first 3 rounds. We have Dez as the 1, Austin locked in as the 2 for a few more years at minimum, Dwayne Harris has emerged as the PR guy, slot WR or outside guy and he's made plays, while Beasley does great in the slot. We just have too many needs on the o-line, Safety, and NT now.
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Too strong. On Crabtree. I just recognized he's actually having a solid season. It's just the hype on him was so high coming out and it's taken till now for him to just become solid. I'm biased. I haven't liked him since some guys on here wanted the Browns to draft him to make an Edwards/Crabtree combo-what a disaster that would've been.
Bernard. I'm not as high on as everyone apparently and he's got legitimate injury issues.
On a WR-Is Harris really that good? I thought Da'Rick was kind of a steal in the 3rd.
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Arthur Brown in the 3rd please. WIlson, Hunter, Brown = A++
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Are you figuring a new coach will scrap the 34? Brown looks kinda small to play inside.
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Cobi is the epitome of a body catcher. I like Tyler Wilson a lot. Id rather Banks or Hunter
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You and Vidae both mentioned things I haven't seen from Hamilton. I'll look again.
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Big fan of Warford in the 3rd, and Jenkins is great, but I can't imagine trading up to get him.
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Why not? You've got a young, hungry GM and a team ready to contend. Jenkins is a top 5 pick if he's 100% and good to go. But if there's debate among teams, he''ll drop.
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Nice job on 3 rounds this early. Hard to project players but I like the Skins taking a Safety first. I think it could end up being either of the UGA guys instead, but whatever, position is correct
Disagree on the TE tho. Im assuming Fred Davis will be back, Logan Paulsen has filled in admirably, and the staff loves Niles Paul. Too much of a luxury pick
I think out of our first 3 picks we need OL, Secondary and WR/playmaker help so given the Vaccaro pick I would look at Da'Rick or the OT's going soon after. Or flip it and we take Robert Woods/Barret Jones in the 2nd and Rambo in the 3rd
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Yea, I spaced on Fred Davis being on IR. How about the honey pot badger?
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You think Denver takes a RB in round 1? I think they would consider a CB like Banks since they have Moreno/Hillman
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You had me until the Rambo pick. Mingo would be a nice addition as the primary situational pass-rusher for now (assuming Kruger signs a bigger deal elsewhere like I think he will) and to eventually take over for Suggs. Woods isn't quite the type of WR I'm hoping they target but at that point I like the value. Rambo... meh. Just not a fan of his and I'd rather they just keep developing Thompson to take over for Reed rather than draft another safety in the 3rd-4th round range. Overall I would be fairly happy with it though.
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I'm assuming since you have the Jets reaching all 3 rounds that Tannenbaum is still the GM? Awful Jets draft. Bray is a nutcase that has a strong arm with mechanical flaws, he isn't a 1st rounder at this point. In a class loaded at interior linemen, I highly doubt Winters goes that early, I can think of so many guys I'd rather have there. Jenkins should probably go around where Ronnell Lewis went last year, day 3.
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I have no problem with the Bengals draft. Good job bro!
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Yea, I spaced on Fred Davis being on IR. How about the honey pot badger?
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Fred may be on IR but that does not mean he's coming back. He was franchised this past season. Injury and drug issues aren't all that reassuring...I'm all for drafting a TE but not until the 3rd or later. I'm also not a big fan of Vaccaro in the 2nd. I think it's a stretch and would prefer someone I'm more confident can make an immediate impact.
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I like Hankins more than Richardson, but the OT to NO in the 3rd is right on.
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Do you have Amerson returning for his SR year or going after the 3rd round?
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