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View Poll Results: Who gets your vote for Rookie of the Year right now?
Robert Griffin 55 37.93%
Andrew Luck 56 38.62%
Russell Wilson 34 23.45%
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:06 AM    (permalink
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It's going to be very hard to deny Russel Wilson once it's all said and done. I may have been the biggest Russel Wilson homer in existence (thought he should be a top 5 pick) but even I didn't expect him to do what he's done this year.

Andrew Luck has not played at an elite level as consistently as the other two guys have but any other year he'd have my vote but this year Wilson and Griff have been lights out fantastic. I haven't seen RG3 have a 'rookie game' yet and his stats speak for themselves. Seattle has a ton of young talent and are going to be good for a long time. I think the fact that he has so much talent around him may affect voters. Luck keeps getting the benefit of the doubt because the Colts (or Indianapolis Lucks as we should start calling them) keep winning despite sporatic play from their rookie signal caller. Some of it has to do with Luck but I think this team is overachieving, fuelled by their coaches illness. It's a feel good story, but it would be a travesty if he got it over the other two. Breaking the Passing record is great and all but if RG3 were asked to throw as much as Luck he would be in Drew Brees yardage territory if all things stayed true, however if RG3 turned the ball over as much as Luck the skins would be bottom dwellers again and it's not even close. He's had to be almost perfect because of how bad the D is (though they have been very good at forcing turnovers.).
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Jesus christ, RG3 has 7 turnovers ffs!



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I think Luck's play has been vastly overrated this year. As a team, they've beaten two teams with a winning record. He's a turnover machine. To put it into perspective, Luck throws 1 interception for every 31.3 attempts. Wilson throws 1 interception every 39.2 attempts. Griffin throws 1 for every 87.8 (!!!) attempts. Griffin fumbles more, but can probably be attributed to his running. Luck has fumbled 10 times to Griffin's 11. Wilson has fumbled 5 times.

Total Turnovers:
Luck - 28
Wilson - 14
Griffin - 15

Luck is very good and will be good for many MANY years to come. However, right now I'm giving it to Wilson, with Griffin a close 2nd.
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Because he single handedly took the colts from the 1st pick to the playoffs!!!!!
You're discrediting "THE PAGANO EFFECT".

Also, Jerry Hughes.
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this is a tough one. i think Griffin deserves it the most when it comes to stats. but Luck has the record to go along with it, Wilson as well.

its really a toss up tbh, and i have no idea who takes home the trophy.

i want Griffin or Wilson to win it though.
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This sounds cute, but the greatest difficulty facing Luck is the amount of times he's asked to throw, not the difficulty level of the throws he's being asked to execute.

Many of Luck's passing errors have been the fault of his own poor decision making, not the fault of the offense he's being asked to run. The fact he's been able to overcome his mistakes and still lead the Colts to wins is a testament to his great ability.

Rookie QBs who have the turnover rate that Luck has rarely win football games, or make the playoffs.

BTW I've heard two sports radio hosts declare Luck their OROTY because he set the passing yardage record, which is about as deep as most casual football fans are going to get in their decision making process. His low completion percentage or high number of turnovers are going to be secondary IMO to making the playoffs and his 4K+ passing.
Then by that token those same fans will misrepresent his turnovers I forget what game it was but he heaved one into the end zone at the half and it was picked off. Also thr interception against the titans that should have never been called.
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3-Way tie has to be
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Agreed. You can make STRONG arguments for every single candidate. If this wasn't such a strong QB year you could have the same argument over the best rookie RB this year.

Alfred Morris: 1413 yards (4.7 ypc) 10 TD
Doug Martin: 1312 yards (4.5 ypc) 10 TD --- 45 catches 454 yards
Trent Richardson: 950 yards (3.6 ypc) 11 TD --- 51 catches 367 yards

Alfred Morris and Doug Martin would be very legitimate picks for OROY most years.
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Agreed. You can make STRONG arguments for every single candidate. If this wasn't such a strong QB year you could have the same argument over the best rookie RB this year.

Alfred Morris: 1413 yards (4.7 ypc) 10 TD
Doug Martin: 1312 yards (4.5 ypc) 10 TD --- 45 catches 454 yards
Trent Richardson: 950 yards (3.6 ypc) 11 TD --- 51 catches 367 yards

Alfred Morris and Doug Martin would be very legitimate picks for OROY most years.
And holy crap I didn't realize Morris did that well.
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And holy crap I didn't realize Morris did that well.
Yeah he is actually 103 yards away from tying the Redskins single season rushing record with Clinton Portis.
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Then by that token those same fans will misrepresent his turnovers I forget what game it was but he heaved one into the end zone at the half and it was picked off. Also thr interception against the titans that should have never been called.
Okay if we're playing that game we'll just add the 9 ints he's had dropped then too (could be more)
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Okay if we're playing that game we'll just add the 9 ints he's had dropped then too (could be more)
Like Luck is the only QB who has had potential interceptions dropped right?

Is the redskins in the playoff?!!
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Like Luck is the only QB who has had potential interceptions dropped right?

Is the redskins in the playoff?!!
Luck leads the league in dropped catchable interceptions.

The Redskins will be in the playoffs after beating the Cowboys.
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Luck leads the league in dropped catchable interceptions.

The Redskins will be in the playoffs after beating the Cowboys.
I'd love to see your research. :) Post up your credible link on "Dropped Catchable Interceptions" whenever you get the chance.
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Luck leads the league in dropped catchable interceptions.

The Redskins will be in the playoffs after beating the Cowboys.
And the New York Knicks will be the NBA champion this year.
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It is getting really hard to deny Russel Wilson. Andrew luck may finish 2nd again for an award...
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Because he is the second coming of Jesus? Regardless of his stats or play.
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Because he single handedly took the colts from the 1st pick to the playoffs!!!!!
Basing an individual award off of team performance = fail
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I know I am in the minority but I firmly believe Wilson should be the ROTY or the three should split, it's honest to god near impossible to pick one of those 3 to be the favorite.

Wilson is close to breaking Manning's record for most TD passes, he has been extremely efficient with the ball, not turning it over very much, and has a very young squad around him that didn't do hardly anything on offense last year.

Arguments can be made for all three quarterbacks obviously, I am just most shocked/impressed with what Wilson has done.
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And the New York Knicks will be the NBA champion this year.
The SKins beating the Cowboys for a 2nd time this season at home in FedEx is the equivalent of the Knicks winning the NBA championship??
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Basing an individual award off of team performance = fail
It's not any different than simply looking at a stat sheet without any context of what actually happened.
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I can't wait to see the tears in May when everyone is forced to face the fact that the Knicks are extremely over-rated.
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It's not any different than simply looking at a stat sheet without any context of what actually happened.
You cant base an individual award on a teams W/L record. Individual stats play a majority of the role in determination. If a team wins 21-14 and the defense had a pick 6 and special teams returned a kick for a TD how can you base that QBs play of the W? He wasn't responsible for that win.
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