2013 Giants Draft Thread

[Giantsfan1080]

His 40 is what's going to make him drop to late 2nd/3rd round. It's his weak spot but he' the real deal. Great all around CB.

[Forenci]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

QB is really the only position you should trade the farm for. This is a linebacker we're talking about.

As much as I loved Luke last year, and boy do I love Luke, look at who was available at LB in round 2 in the same draft:

-Michael Kendricks
-Bobby Wagner
-Lavonte David


All of whom would do great for us. Of the 3 Wagner would make the most sense bc he has the size we like and he's a MIKE.

But the point remains, you can find linebackers. We just do an awful job of scouting LBs as an organization but they're out there to have.

This draft is actually pretty good at LB, no need to sell the farm for 1.

I actually think we do a pretty decent job drafting LB and finding LB's in free agency considering we rarely take one above the fourth round.

Actually, looking back, the only LB we've taken above the fourth round (under Ross) is Clint Sintim, and I'm not sure we would really consider that a linebacker pick considering how we converted to DE almost immediately.

[Giantsfan1080]

Sintim was a DE who he converted to LB.

[Forenci]

Yeah, I basically don't consider him a LB as a pick, even if it might have been technically.

[bigbluedefense]

Starting my early scouting on some of these LBs.

So far:

Arthur Brown looks good, but hes a little light. Reminds me of Lavonte David a little. Long arms, but he's short and thin. Good instincts, great tackler. Ok in coverage. This is early, I haven't seen much yet.

Gerald Hodges has tremendous instincts, both in the run and pass game. He's very good in coverage, great in zone defense, he covers his zones and glides btw players with ease. He's built for zone defense, he's very good in zone defense, and he's very good in man coverage with Backs out of the backfield as well. Tremendous instincts. He dissects plays very well and is always in position to make a play. BUT, so far I'm not thrilled with his tackling. And I'm gonna try to make tackling the main focal point of my scouting for defenders this year.

Khasim: You already know. Only concern is size.

[Big_Pete]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

Starting my early scouting on some of these LBs.

So far:

Arthur Brown looks good, but hes a little light. Reminds me of Lavonte David a little. Long arms, but he's short and thin. Good instincts, great tackler. Ok in coverage. This is early, I haven't seen much yet.

Gerald Hodges has tremendous instincts, both in the run and pass game. He's very good in coverage, great in zone defense, he covers his zones and glides btw players with ease. He's built for zone defense, he's very good in zone defense, and he's very good in man coverage with Backs out of the backfield as well. Tremendous instincts. He dissects plays very well and is always in position to make a play. BUT, so far I'm not thrilled with his tackling. And I'm gonna try to make tackling the main focal point of my scouting for defenders this year.

Khasim: You already know. Only concern is size.

Thanks BBD,

Im curious on your thoughts on Chase Thomas

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Big_Pete

Thanks BBD,

Im curious on your thoughts on Chase Thomas

Don't know a thing about him yet. Just starting to look at guys but I'm far from done. I'm just gathering names and looking at what I can.

[Big_Pete]

Well it's official, our draft picks for 2013 are

19
51
83
115
147
179
211

plus any compensation picks we might get.

[bigbluedefense]

I really want a pass rusher. But to be fair, I love scouting pass rushers every year so I am a bit biased.

I'm not gonna waste my time scouting WRs or RBs, I don't see us taking any. Not gonna scout TEs either.

I'm gonna scout DEs, DTs, LBs, CBs, OTs, OGs.

I think that's what we're looking at and that's where we should draft our players.

I hate drafting DTs early nowadays bc of the high bust rate, so I'm more looking at 2nd and 3rd round value guys at DT. I believe in drafting DEs and CBs high, so I'm looking at the 1st round talent there. OT and OG I'll do the same, because if an OT or OG is by far BPA on the board in round 1 I think we should pull the trigger.

I'd prefer grabbing a LB in round 2, but I'll also scout the round 1 guys. I want a LB in the first 3 rounds. I think this is a must.

Ideally, I want to go:

1. DE
2. LB
3. OG
4 - 7 BPA regardless of position.

[Forenci]

For me it's just BPA that fits a need. We do it every year so I'm not surprised. Whatever our main needs are, pick the best player available at that position.

19 is a good pick. We can get a really good player at that spot.

[OSUGiants17]

BBD you might want to look at safety too, you never know if KP is coming back and even if he does we could use someone behind him if we don't feel comfortable in Will Hill/Sash taking over if he goes down again.

[OSUGiants17]

Also, if he is there, how would you guys feel about Jonathan Hankins as our pick?

[bigbluedefense]

If we re-sign KP, then I'm fine with the safety position. But if not, then it definitely becomes a need. I don't believe in Stevie Brown. He's a flash in the pan.

[OSUGiants17]

Brown is nothing more than opportunistic, he isn't a starting safety and you know he is going to be overpaid this offseason. Let him walk, resign KP cheap and draft a safety in the later rounds

[Giantsfan1080]

Brown is a RFA. He'll most likely be back next year.

[Damix]

Give him a 3rd round tender and hopefully someone bites.

[Tehzl]

Hey guys, I am new here to the forum, so nice to meet you all. Now question, it seems most of you really like Khaseem Greene, and that some of you guys here are Rutgers fans. I don't really watch college football, so I was wondering if you guys could go into more detail about why you like him, and maybe even compare him to a current player in the league. Lastly what position would he be playing? In the middle, or maybe taking over for Kiwanuka.

[Big_Pete]

Originally Posted by Tehzl

Hey guys, I am new here to the forum, so nice to meet you all. Now question, it seems most of you really like Khaseem Greene, and that some of you guys here are Rutgers fans. I don't really watch college football, so I was wondering if you guys could go into more detail about why you like him, and maybe even compare him to a current player in the league. Lastly what position would he be playing? In the middle, or maybe taking over for Kiwanuka.

I really like Khaseem Greene as a prospect, but he is purely a 4-3 WLB in my opinion.

We already have Jaquain Williams, Spencer Paysinger and Michael Boley who play WLB. I guess the jury is out as to whether Boley returns, but I just don't see the major need for Greene to invest a 2nd round pick.

[Giantsfan1080]

Don't forget in Fewell's system the Will is actually the Strong.

[Forenci]

Hopefully Fewell won't be here long enough for that to matter though.

Greene is alright, just way too undersized for my liking. I'd much rather invest in a corner, D-Linemen or offensive linemen in the second round.

[Giantsfan1080]

You need smaller faster LB's in today's NFL though.

[scottyboy]

and greene plays bigger than he is. lets not forget it's only his 2nd year at the position and he couldn't bulk up much this past offseason because he was rehabbing off a freak ankle injury. He can play SAM if need be I feel, but will be an animal of a WILL for whoever drafts him. Great instincts, can still cover like a safety and hits like a mofo

[Forenci]

I mean, that's fine, I just disagree. I think he's too small and not nearly strong enough to play to position. He'll be a solid player but not great, in my opinion. I wouldn't be extremely upset if we took him in the second, but I think there are better, more high upside linebackers to consider than Greene.

Although I personally wouldn't bother taking any LB in the second round this year. Too many other concerns and too much depth at other positions to not try and hit on some of those areas.

[scottyboy]

i agree with your take on the giants, not on greene, obviously. I think a guy like Greene or Arthur Brown would be AWESOME to have, but I'm more concerned up fron on the Dline. that's my biggest concern heading forward

[Rosebud]

Yup, get some big uglies and maybe a corner.