Originally Posted by Brothgar
But at that point the mere fact they have won the super bowl makes some of them elite QBs. So it is a loop he's an elite QB because he won Super Bowls and he won Super Bowls because he is elite.
I think to be in the elite conversation, outside of a couple of examples, like the Dan Marinos of the world, you need a SB to be considered elite.
But to be a SB caliber qb, I think all you have to be is a top 10 caliber qb. So I think we can evaluate a quarterback prior to him winning a SB to determine if he's good enough to win one. Does that make any sense? I'm not sure if I'm explaining my point properly.
I know Eli will come up as an example against that. Me personally, I've always held Eli to a much higher regard than most people on this forum prior to him winning a SB, but that's also because I watch him every week and know our playbook and offense pretty well.
I just think you need a top 10 qb to compete. Or a guy who looks like he can develop into a top 10 qb.