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oh. is that why it's taboo now to point out how incredibly wrong abaddon was for saying Alex smith was gonna be the next Eli?
oh. oopsies.
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Didn't you say Brian Leonard was going to be good?
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01-13-2013, 12:52 PM
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Didn't you say Brian Leonard was going to be good?
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You can't call out Scotty for saying any Rutgers players are going to be good.
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oh please. as if canadians even know what beer is.
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01-13-2013, 02:58 PM
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oh. is that why it's taboo now to point out how incredibly wrong abaddon was for saying Alex smith was gonna be the next Eli?
oh. oopsies.
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I also don't recall saying that
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01-13-2013, 03:25 PM
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Didn't you say Brian Leonard was going to be good?
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And Ray Rice was a slow midget. It happens. It's know I hype all Rutgers players but you'll know the ones I'm actually serious about (ala McCourty's, Britt, Greene and not the Alex Silvestro's etc).
Leonard I missed on but I give myself a break there because he was the savior of the program, hype was deserved.
But if I went around and ragged on everyone who was saying Kenny Britt sucked or the McCourty's...or that Raymell Rice thread from years back, that'd be douchey.
Plus, forenci pulls the Brian Leonard card enough, so that's not really applicable. Stop defending your foolish niners compadres. Do what we did with #10 and leave him to rot and fend for himself when he embarrassed the rest of us
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BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.
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01-13-2013, 03:36 PM
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It's kind of an unwritten rule here not to bump old threads on the draft board. We all have been wrong on prospects. There's no point to it other than to embarrass other posters. Even the brightest football minds are often wrong when it comes to the draft.
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Says who? It's annoying when it happens all the time but I actually enjoy the old threads getting bumped to see what I thought about a prospect and what other people did two. I could care less about the pissing match that goes on in between all of that about who was right and who was wrong. Everyone here should be smart enough to know even if you were absolutely right about one thing you were completely wrong about another, not a big deal at all and it happens all the time.
I enjoy reading back through these threads from before the draft, but somebody always gets their feelings hurt when it gets bumped and they were wrong. Who gives a ****. If you got every single draft prediction right you wouldn't be doing it from your computer at the house. It's fun to reflect back on some of these threads after you have some real games to validate some points. If people get too butt hurt about being wrong then just read the boards and don't post, or just do like njx does and don't have an opinion just critique other people for reading comprehension.
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01-13-2013, 03:56 PM
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It's kind of an unwritten rule here not to bump old threads on the draft board. We all have been wrong on prospects. There's no point to it other than to embarrass other posters. Even the brightest football minds are often wrong when it comes to the draft.
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actually, it *is* written. though, to be fair, i said "from 2007", so it may have been misleading.
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just do like njx does and don't have an opinion just critique other people for reading comprehension.
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i've almost always had an opinion. please review the '**** you were wrong about' thread from the last 6 years.
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01-13-2013, 04:24 PM
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njx. get the **** out.
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njx, do you even opine?
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BTW, if it's 3rd and 97... I'm throwing a screen pass to Brian Leonard and he will convert.
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01-13-2013, 06:01 PM
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This is why I love some on this board. A player has one good game and some think he's the next Peyton Manning. Lol
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01-13-2013, 06:11 PM
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This is why I love some on this board. A player has one good game and some think he's the next Peyton Manning. Lol
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you guys seem to do well against the mobile QBs in the division. Seems it helps to have good ends that can get up the field.
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01-13-2013, 06:16 PM
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This thread is HOF worthy imo.
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01-13-2013, 06:32 PM
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It's not that bad to go back and bump an old thread to read some old opinions and see how they turned out. Some playful jabbing is okay and some people will eat crow. Its a dick move however to go back and critique every post and gloat how great you are. Congrats, Kaepernick had a good game and ran all over a confused subpar defense. Calm down.
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01-13-2013, 07:00 PM
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oh. is that why it's taboo now to point out how incredibly wrong abaddon was for saying Alex smith was gonna be the next Eli?
oh. oopsies.
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Why oopsies? Why taboo? If a person isn't comfortable enough in their own skin to accept criticism when wrong, they shouldn't be as willing to put their words on record.
But this also isn't about hyperbole or about misrepresentation. It's about utilizing direct quotes to provide substance.
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01-13-2013, 08:54 PM
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Why oopsies? Why taboo? If a person isn't comfortable enough in their own skin to accept criticism when wrong, they shouldn't be as willing to put their words on record.
But this also isn't about hyperbole or about misrepresentation. It's about utilizing direct quotes to provide substance.
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Its juvenile and doesn't endear anyone to his immature plight of "being called out". I had posters call me clueless when I said CK was just as good, if not better than Cam. I remember one poster said CK would fail because of the "lack of arch" on his throws and I just laughed at his post. Am I here, grave-digging old threads though? No. You take solace in the fact that you knew you were right and keep it moving. You don't wait for one great game, then get all clairvoyant and think now is the time show the world I'm a savant. Who goes all emo over a discussion about prospects on a draft forum?
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01-13-2013, 09:18 PM
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I'm confused of why at this point people are ready to put CK over Cam. Don't get me wrong I like CK but winning a playoff game doesn't make one QB better than another nor does having a winning season or at least not on its own. Specially since he's only started 9 games. Have we already forgotten what Cam was doing through 9 games?
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oh please. as if canadians even know what beer is.
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I don't think CK is better than Cam, but I do believe they are very similar talents. Game-changing type players.
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I'm confused of why at this point people are ready to put CK over Cam. Don't get me wrong I like CK but winning a playoff game doesn't make one QB better than another nor does having a winning season or at least not on its own. Specially since he's only started 9 games. Have we already forgotten what Cam was doing through 9 games?
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Ugh, but that was so 3 weeks ago.
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Kaep just tore up GB, but I'd still probably take Cam over him currently. I know he isn't the new thing anymore but Cam is still pretty damn good.
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What happens if Ck27 (kaepernick ) wins the super bowl? Will you take him over Cam?I believe in longer future Colin is better.
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I would agree, but as a teacher, it is in my nature to give out grades.
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Nature? I, uh, don't think that's how that works.
Besides, that'd be like getting stabbed, and the guy going, "It's ok. I'm a surgeon. It's in my nature to cut people open."
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Lets see on the big stage. Kaepernick showed poise and just shredded Green Bay.
I've liked Kaepernick coming out. Cam is a pre-Madonna and hangs his head when things go wrong. Kaepernick first drive throws a pick 6. Came back pretty well.
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What I wanna know is... Who has better pocket presents?
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Kaep just tore up GB, but I'd still probably take Cam over him currently. I know he isn't the new thing anymore but Cam is still pretty damn good.
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I always thought CK was the better QB. Even before the Niners selected him. I didn't think enough ppl really grasped what he did in college, even if it was against WAC competition. And I still feel he's better but Cam really opened my eyes alot his rookie year. I have no problem with ppl siding with Cam because he does have less talent around him to work with. Its not a open and shut case, either way. And both are still a work in progress.
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Kaep just tore up GB, but I'd still probably take Cam over him currently. I know he isn't the new thing anymore but Cam is still pretty damn good.
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I know it was early last season, and last season is last years bird ****, but Cam Newton looked like the second coming of Johnny Unitas against GB.
Lets just pump the brakes a bit when we're talking about these young QBs.
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01-13-2013, 11:23 PM
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Instead of pointing fingers or gloating let's examine why Kaepernick may have been underrated coming out of college. Of course we have to cite the obligatory "It's Only One Game" factor...
Personally, I was concerned about the adjustment from the Pistol Offense to a pro style system. I don't think anyone could deny the incredible physical tools, but the reason I had Kaepernick graded as a third rounder is because I felt he was a project. Also, to take a quarterback as early as Kaepernick went there is usually pressure to play them even if they aren't ready. Kaepernick obviously went into a good situation with a strong team and outstanding quarterback coach and it sure seems to be working out, but what if he had been selected by the Oakland Raiders?
I have a question for everyone: Do you think if Kaepernick was in the 2013 NFL Draft he would be a more highly-regarded pro prospect because there are more mobile quarterbacks having success in the league now than there were a couple of years ago? I absolutely do.
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