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Old 01-13-2013, 10:00 AM    (permalink
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Kevin Reddick from UNC is some one Im liking for the gmen in the 2or 3rd rds.
Don't think reese will draft a de in the first. Don't see tuck going anywhere. So Im more hoping a Warmack makes it to 19. Beatty and Warmack would solve the left side for a good while.
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I'd love to get Warmack or Warford. Both are just so good at pulling despite their massive frames and great natural power. That said I'd still rather snag an Ansah or Jordan in the first and hope Warford lasts til the second.
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agreed. and before people say no chance Warmack falls, let's remember how Decastro fell last year and he was one of the best guard prospects we've ever really seen
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The OT class getting weaker helps the guards move up the board, but I still think that people are slightly over-rating just how high we'll see these awesome guards go.
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agreed. and while we've all realized we've got quite a bit of holes, this draft is deep in positions we need. We can miss out on guys at a certain position and have no problem taking a guy at the other. Deep at guards, Dline and corner makes it pretty nice for us
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agreed. and while we've all realized we've got quite a bit of holes, this draft is deep in positions we need. We can miss out on guys at a certain position and have no problem taking a guy at the other. Deep at guards, Dline and corner makes it pretty nice for us
Yup, that's why I'm not so fired up for a LB. I'd much rather we take advantage of this draft's depth at OG, DE and DT, to find young studs at those spots than snag just a good young LB.
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Yeah, normally I'm not someone to hold out hope for guys to fall but because of his position it is very possible Warmack could be at our pick. After watching the 49ers offensive line just DOMINATE I really want to get a top offensive linemen in the draft. Warmack will be a stud. I hope we can get him.
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Yup, that's why I'm not so fired up for a LB. I'd much rather we take advantage of this draft's depth at OG, DE and DT, to find young studs at those spots than snag just a good young LB.
OR we trade down, grab Khaseem and take full advantage of the depth, obviously
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OR we trade down, grab Khaseem and take full advantage of the depth, obviously
*shrug* we've got Jacquain and until he's cut, Boley, I'd rather get the better choice of prospects than another tiny LB.
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Honestly, if we take a LB in the second round I want it to be Alec Ogletree if he's at our pick. Dude has huge upside and I loved watching him play at Georgia.
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Haha, no offense Scotty. It's just Ogletree has a billion times more upside than Kasheem does.
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I don't think we need another OLB. I think we need a MIKE. JWill should hold down the outside for us.
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Ogletree is an MIKE. I just fear he will go in the first round because he is so damn good.
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Height/weight/speed?
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I just hope Fewell fixes his scheme or else it won't matter who we have on this team.
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My problem with Ogletree is he's a little guy to
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Even if we did trade back after already getting a DE, DT and OG, I'd want a DB, be it another corner to challenge Webster and Hosley, or a deep safety to back up Kenny.
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He won't. Let it go. We're gonna run the same Cover 2 defense next year.

We have to draft better tacklers in the LB core, a CB and possibly S in the secondary, and a pass rusher opposite JPP for the DL for us to be competitive on defense next year. Unless some of these old guys find lightning in a bottle.
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Listed at 6'3 232 with a frame to add more weight. I'm not sure what he's timed at but every game I've seen he FLIES from sideline to sideline. Amazing speed. He takes guys on at the point of attack too.



Against Bama. I like how he sheds some of Bama's linemen during the game. Wasn't his best game necessarily but he had 11 tackles and did a pretty good job.
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He won't. Let it go. We're gonna run the same Cover 2 defense next year.

We have to draft better tacklers in the LB core, a CB and possibly S in the secondary, and a pass rusher opposite JPP for the DL for us to be competitive on defense next year. Unless some of these old guys find lightning in a bottle.

I can't let it go! That side of the ball is wasting Eli's prime! We need a better LB coach who can teach these kids who to tackle. We do need a CB, we are fine at safety unless we plan on pushing Rolle out the door.

I talked about this on BBI, but watching these mobile QBs and some running the read option, our DL can't keep getting attention for us. We need to branch to other areas. Also, I do believe the " You never can have too much pass rushers, meaning for me front 4, might be out dated.

We can put Kiwi and Ojomo, and hope our scheme helps us. If we extend Fewell I will flip out!
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Haha, no offense Scotty. It's just Ogletree has a billion times more upside than Kasheem does.
I like Ogletree and would love the pick but I disagree with you on upside considering that's a huge part of Khaseem's upside. Dude's only been a LB for 2 years now haha. He's only gonna get better.

Ogletree fits better as a MIKE, obviously. Khaseem will be a stud WILL somewhere. Not here most likely, i know that. i just keep saying khaseem because i love him. Ogletree would be fine, but I REALLY wanna work the trenches and nab a corner early
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I just don't think Kasheem has the size to become a dominant LB. I think he'll be a good, solid player though.

I want to work on the trenches and corner as well. We agree there for sure. If Ogletree (somehow) ever fell to our second pick I wouldn't mind grabbing him at all.
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I really like Ogletree also so I'd be very happy with him.
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Looking at the depth in this year's draft, I think we can probably still get a good LB in the 3rd/4th rounds.

If we can't get Ansah, I would rather look at the offensive line.
A rotation of Tuck, Pierre-Paul, Kiwanuka and Tracy/Ojomo/Trattou is solid.

The guy I like is Barrett Jones, he can play any of our oline positions. We could plug him in at LG for a couple of years and groom him as Baas's successor.

I do think with the uncertainty around Corey Webster and Terrel Thomas, we need to look at corner and there should be very good options in the 2nd and third rounds.
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