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To try and get a grip of the depth of talent this year, I have done an early our round mock, let me know what you think.

It is worth noting that there is quite a bit of talent still on the board.


Round 1

Kansas City (2-14): Luke Joeckel, OT Texas A&M
Jacksonville (2-14): Bjeorn Werner, DE Florida State
Oakland (4-12): Star Lotulelei, DT Utah
Philadelphia (4-12): Geno Smith, QB West Virginia
Detroit (4-12): Damontre Moore, DE Texas A&M
Cleveland (5-11): Chance Warmack, OG Alabama
Arizona (5-11): Matt Barkley, QB Southern California
Buffalo (6-10): Jarvis Jones, OLB Georgia

New York Jets (6-10): Barkevious Mingo, OLB Louisiana State
Tennessee (6-10): Dee Milliner, CB Alabama
San Diego (7-9): Eric Fisher, OT Central Michigan
Miami (7-9): Cordarelle Patterson, WR Tennessee
Tampa Bay (7-9): Dion Jordan, DE Oregon
Carolina (7-9): Johnathan Hankins, DT Ohio State
New Orleans (7-9): Sheldon Richardson, DT Missouri
St. Louis (7-8-1): Jonathan Cooper, OG North Carolina

Pittsburgh (8-8): Manti Teo, LB Notre Dame
Dallas (8-8): Barrett Jones, OL Alabama
New York Giants (9-7): Ezekiel Ansah, DE Brigham Young
Chicago (10-6): DJ Fluker, OT Alabama
Cincinnati (10-6): Sam Montgomery, DE Louisiana State
St. Louis - from Washington (10-6): Tyler Eifert, TE Notre Dame
Minnesota (10-6): Sharrif Floyd, DT Florida
Indianapolis (11-5): Jesse Williams, DT Alabama

Seattle (11-5): Keenan Allen, WR California
Green Bay (11-5): Zach Ertz, TE Stanford
Houston (12-4): Lane Johnson, OT Oklahoma
Denver (13-3): Kevin Minter, LB Louisiana State
Baltimore (10-6): Alex Ogeltree, LB Georgia
San Francisco (11-4-1): John Jenkins, DT Georgia
New England (12-4): Johnathan Banks, CB Mississippi State
Atlanta (13-3): Alex Okafor, DE Texas


Round 2

Jacksonville (2-14): Kawann Short, DT Purdue
Kansas City (2-14): Arthur Brown, LB Kansas State
Philadelphia (4-12): Tavon Austin, WR West Virginia
Detroit (4-12): David Amerson, CB North Carolina State
Cincinnati - from Oakland (4-12): Kenny Vaccaro, S Texas
Arizona (5-11): Travis Frederick, OG Wisconsin
Cleveland (5-11): used in supplemental draft
New York Jets (6-10): Tyler Wilson QB, Arkansas

Tennessee (6-10): Sylvester Williams, DT North Carolina
Buffalo (6-10): Ryan Nassib, QB Syracuse
Miami (7-9): Justin Hunter, WR Tennessee
Tampa Bay (7-9): Logan Ryan, CB Rutgers
Carolina (7-9): DeAndre Hopkins, WR Clemson
New Orleans (7-9): forfiet due to bountygate
San Diego (7-9): Jordan Poyer, CB Oregon State
St. Louis (7-8-1): Tony Jefferson, S Oklahoma

Dallas (8-8): Eric Reid, S Louisiana State
Pittsburgh (8-8); Eddie Lacy, RB Alabama
New York Giants (9-7): Margus Hunt, DL Southern Methodist
Chicago (10-6): Xavier Rhodes, CB Florida State
Washington (10-6): Robert Alford, CB Southeastern Louisiana
Minnesota (10-6): Terrance Williams, WR Baylor
Cincinnati (10-6): Khaseem Greene, OLB Rutgers
Miami - from Indianapolis (11-5): Matt Elam, S Florida

Green Bay (11-5): Montee Ball, RB Wisconsin
Seattle (11-5): Bennie Logan, DT Louisiana State
Houston (12-4): Da’Rick Rogers, WR Tennessee Tech
Denver (13-3): TJ McDonald, S Southern California
Baltimore (10-6): Phillip Thomas, S Fresno State
San Francisco (11-4-1): Larry Warford, OG Kentucky
New England (12-4): John Simon, DE/OLB Ohio State
Atlanta (13-3): Will Davis, CB Utah State



Round 3

Kansas City (2-14): Mike Glennon, QB North Carolina State
Jacksonville (2-14): Gavin Escobar, TE San Diego State
Detroit (4-12): Justin Pugh, OT Syracuse
Oakland (4-12): Datone Jones, DE California
Philadelphia (4-12): Kyle Long, OT Oregon
Cleveland (5-11): Desmond Trufant, CB Washington
Arizona (5-11): Dallas Thomas, OT Tennessee
Tennessee (6-10): Alvin Bailey, OG Arkansas

Buffalo (6-10): Robert Woods WR, Southern California
New York Jets (6-10): Le’Veon Bell, RB Michigan State
Tampa Bay (7-9): Akeem Spence, DT Illinois
San Francisco - from Carolina (7-9): Zac Dysert, QB Miami (Oh)
New Orleans (7-9): Oday Aboushi, OT Virginia Tech
San Diego (7-9): Brandon Williams, DT Missouri Southern State
Miami (7-9): Jordan Reed, TE Florida
St. Louis (7-8-1): Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB Connecticut

Pittsburgh (8-8): Brandon Jenkins, OLB Florida State
Dallas (8-8): Michael Buchannen, DE Illinois
New York Giants (9-7): Gerald Hodges, LB Penn State
Miami - from Chicago (10-6): Cornelius Carradine DE, Florida State
Minnesota (10-6): Corey Lemonier, DE Auburn
Cincinnati (10-6): Giovanni Bernard, RB North Carolina
Washington (10-6): Stedman Bailey, WR West Virginia
Indianapolis (11-5): Brennan Williams, OT North Carolina

Seattle (11-5): Jamie Collins, LB Southern Mississippi
Green Bay (11-5): Chase Thomas, LB Stanford
Houston (12-4): Andre Ellington RB, Clemson
Denver (13-3): William Gholston, DE Michigan State
Baltimore (10-6): Andre Dobson, WR Marshall
San Francisco (11-4-1): Khaled Holmes, OC Southern California
New England (12-4): Cobi Hamilton, WR Arkansas
Atlanta (13-3): Dion Sims, TE Michigan State


Round 4

Jacksonville (2-14): Landry Jones, QB Oklahoma
Kansas City (2-14): Stefan Taylor, RB Stanford
Oakland (4-12): EJ Manuel, QB Florida State
Philadelphia (4-12): Terry Hawthorne, CB Illinois
Minnesota - from Detroit (4-12): Kevin Reddick, LB North Carolina
Arizona (5-11): Ricky Wagner, OT Wisconsin
Cleveland (5-11): Nico Johnson, LB Alabama
Buffalo (6-10): Travis Kelce, TE Cincinnati

New York Jets (6-10): Tyrann Mathieu, CB Louisiana State
Tennessee (6-10): Baccari Rambo, S Georgia
Carolina (7-9): Menelik Watson, OT Florida State
New Orleans (7-9): Quinton Patterson WR, Lousiana Tech
San Diego (7-9): Travis Bond, OG North Carolina
Miami (7-9): Chris Faulk, OT Louisiana State
Tampa Bay (7-9): Brian Winters, OT Kent State
St. Louis (7-8-1): Jawann Jamison, RB Rutgers

Dallas (8-8): Joseph Randle, RB Oklahoma State
Pittsburgh (8-8): Kwame Geathers, DT Georgia
New York Giants (9-7): Trevardo Williams, OLB Connecticut
Chicago (10-6): Sean Porter, OLB Texas A&M
Cincinnati (10-6): Brad Wing, P Louisiana State
Washington (10-6): Ace Sanders, WR South Carolina
Minnesota (10-6): Shawn Williams, S Georgia
Indianapolis (11-5): Kenny Stills, WR Oklahoma

Green Bay (11-5): Sanders Commings, CB Georgia
Seattle (11-5): Marcus Wheaton, WR Oregon State
Houston (12-4): Aron Mellette, WR Elon
Denver (13-3): Levnine Toilolo, TE Stanford
Baltimore (10-6): Hugh Thornton, OG Illinois
San Francisco (11-4-1): Leon McFadden, CB San Diego State
Tampa Bay - from New England (12-4): Zavier Gooden, OLB Missouri
Atlanta (13-3): Kiki Alonso, LB Oregon

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Solid 3 rounds for sf. I don't think we need to draft 2 line men in the early rounds. Maybe a wide out there instead.But solid draft though!
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The Bengals have no need for a Punter. A Kicker would make more sense if they go special teams in the 4th.
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The Bengals have no need for a Punter. A Kicker would make more sense if they go special teams in the 4th.
The Bengals are little hard to predict in the mid rounds. They don't have a lot of glaring needs. Their Punter is off contract and Scott has Wing as a legit 4th round talent (which is exceptional for a punter), so I went with that. Winning the field position game is very under rated particularly with a strong defence.

Other than that, I'd probably have looked at OL depth, maybe Omoregie Uzzi, G Georgia Tech
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Eh, not really a fan of the guys you have the Rams taking in the 1st and 2nd rounds, but they do fill some needs, so I can see why. Corner isn't really a need though, we have three pretty strong ones so maybe a late rounder on one, but I can't see us spending a 3rd round pick on that position.

I like other players at the RB position over Jamison, heck Randle is a guy I'm really high on and you have him going with the very next pick. Not really sure where the Rams view Running back as far as draft needs go. They're really high on Daryl Richardson and they did spend a top 50 selection last year to take Isiah Pead. I think if Markus Wheaton is on the board in the fourth round, he's a monster steal.
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Really not a great KC mock if I'm being honest. RB and OT aren't needs, and I'm not a fan of Glennon.
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you lost me at Luke Joeckel.worthless pick for KC
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The Bengals are little hard to predict in the mid rounds. They don't have a lot of glaring needs. Their Punter is off contract and Scott has Wing as a legit 4th round talent (which is exceptional for a punter), so I went with that. Winning the field position game is very under rated particularly with a strong defence.

Other than that, I'd probably have looked at OL depth, maybe Omoregie Uzzi, G Georgia Tech
Kevin Huber has played very well since drafting him. He will stay with the Bengals since he is a hometown kid.

You have not given them a Safety and that is arguably the top need for them.
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The Bengals are little hard to predict in the mid rounds.
I disagree. Since the Marvin Lewis era has started the Bengals have drafted a D-lineman in every single draft. They have drafted 2 in all but 2. 50% of the drafts had a d-lineman selected in round 3-5. There is a huge chance the Bengals will take a d-lineman probably DE in rounds 3-5. I see the Bengals have taken 2 in your draft. It is likely they would lean to something more pressing than a punter.

Huber had a solid year and it is very unlikely that teams ever break ties with a punter that has been at least average. Huber has been better than average.

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Eh, I disagree here too. Safety is a glaring need as is Corner, Center, OLB, or maybe MLB depending on the circumstance and how things unfold.

The one position I don't believe is a huge issue with the Bengals is DE. I believe Johnson will be resigned, as will Gilberry. Geathers may go, but all in all I believe he is replaceable.
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I dig that Miami draft!
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So we take Geno and Manuel? We take Austin who is just like Maclin and Desean? This is horrible for the eagles.

Geno is fine.

Eric Reid is a better pick in the second

Long is fine

And ****, anyone but Manuel...like the ****?
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So we take Geno and Manuel? We take Austin who is just like Maclin and Desean? This is horrible for the eagles.

Geno is fine.

Eric Reid is a better pick in the second

Long is fine

And ****, anyone but Manuel...like the ****?
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Philadelphia (4-12): Terry Hawthorne, CB Illinois
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I'd be happy with that draft.
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Barkley in the 1st is a ridiculous reach but Thomas in the 3rd and Wagner in the 4th are good, so i wouldn't be entirely angry
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That Chiefs mock is a disaster.
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Pretty good for Green Bay there.
Rds 3 & 4 are positions of need.
Rd 1 is the TE that could help this offense run some NE stuff with the 2 TE's (Finley will be back).

Not in love with Montee Ball at all and feel RB is a worthless position to draft high. I like DuJuan Harris, and we expect Alex Green to be fully healthy next year.
Of course, it won't last as it never does at RB for us.

We need ILB and S help, physical guys.
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The Saints mock is good. We need a DE, and Hunt is there in the second. But I do like Reid. Patton is good though I also like Markus Wheaton who I don't remember seeing.
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Buffalo (6-10): Jarvis Jones, OLB Georgia
Buffalo (6-10): Ryan Nassib, QB Syracuse

Buffalo (6-10): Datone Jones, DE California
Washington (10-6): Stedman Bailey, WR West Virginia
Green Bay (11-5): Chase Thomas, LB Stanford
Baltimore (10-6): Andre Dobson, WR Marshall
New England (12-4): Cobi Hamilton, WR Arkansas

Buffalo (6-10): Travis Kelce, TE Cincinnati
Tennessee (6-10): Baccari Rambo, S Georgia
New Orleans (7-9): Quinton Patterson WR, Lousiana Tech
Green Bay (11-5): Shawn Williams, S Georgia
I think the first two picks for Buffalo would be ideal. In the third round I dont think they go DE, unless their is an exceptional value there. I could see them taking Bailey or Hamilton as they really need a legit #2 guy opposite Johnson. In the 4th round Kelce is a nice TE, but not really an upgrade over Chandler IMO, think after QB/LB/WR and maybe LB again, the next need would be a long term replacement for George Wilson at SS, with Williams or IMO preferably Rambo at that spot. If Byrd somehow leaves, then he could take over there as well. My .02 and some food for thought.
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Solid Lions draft, but would prefer to see Phillip Thomas in round 3. Addressing DE, CB and S in the first 3 rounds is sexy.
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Give the Colts either S Kenny Vaccaro or CB Xavier Rhodes round 1. I dont think Vaccaro and Elam will last as long as you have them. This safety class is pretty good this year, and Xavier Rhodes is a 1st round talent as well with his size.
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Not good for Seattle on this one. Maybe Allen with the first (one of our needs is a WR with separation), however, we won't draft 2 WRs in the first 4 rounds
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Good catch, but still don't like it.

Still no reason for Austin, and if our current corners come back we don't need another one. If this move to the 3-4 is happening we should be looking for pass rushers or a nose.
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unfortuantely the Browns do not have a 2nd rounder :(
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Good catch, neither do the Saints.

I'll have to review it shortly

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