2013 Senior Bowl Discussion Thread - Page 17

bigbluedefense · 01-26-2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperPacker

He was probably already in the top 15. Now he's just confirming that.

I was hoping his stock would fall after the practices. His tape isn't very impressive either but I think this game and the combine probably secures him in the top 15 now.

If no Ansah for me, I'll settle for Warmack, Johnson, Fluker, or Jones.

princefielder28 · 01-26-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bolt

All that says solid second rounder IMO. If he goes in the first, it has everything to do with need and lack of talent at the position.

needing a quarterback is a rather large need and if the top guy is available, it's not a reach

bigbluedefense · 01-26-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bolt

I like Kaseem Greene for you all. The guy is unblockable. A not so poor man's Luke Kuechly.

I like Greene a lot but we need a MIKE more than a OLB. And Greene is a 2nd round talent.

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Originally Posted by Babylon

with all the Superbowls you guys have won i would have thought you'd be a little more charitable.

Nope. We get first dibs on pass rushers. It's how we roll.

BucSquad · 01-26-2013, 05:28 PM

Ansah has looked great.

I'm liking Conner Vernon.

Black Bolt · 01-26-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BucSquad

Ansah has looked great.

I'm liking Conner Vernon.

Vernon is looking like a 2013 Fred Bileknikoff. Also, I think Kyle Long has found a nice home at LG!

Black Bolt · 01-26-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

needing a quarterback is a rather large need and if the top guy is available, it's not a reach

He's not the top guy, Smith is. Barkley will go ahead of Wilson IMO. Also, I believe that Manuel will be a better pro than Wilson. I tried to tell people about the kid who will start in the SB for the 49ers to a chorus of boos two years ago.

bigbluedefense · 01-26-2013, 05:46 PM

Lane Johnson looks like a stud.

Flaming Mo · 01-26-2013, 05:52 PM

E.J. Manuel has been pretty good, especially considering how bad the other guys looked.

Black Bolt · 01-26-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaming Mo

E.J. Manuel has been pretty good, especially considering how bad the other guys looked.

This guy is a winner who completed 68% of his passes, yet wondrous one year guys like Nassib are being talked about as first rounders.

NIN1984 · 01-26-2013, 06:06 PM

Ansah was just non-stop, he was great all day.

Flaming Mo · 01-26-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bolt

This guy is a winner who completed 68% of his passes, yet wondrous one year guys like Nassib are being talked about as first rounders.

Especially with those other guys showing nothing resembling an NFL arm... I've said it many times, Manuel has been overanalyzed and unfairly critisized due to high expectations. He does not look out of place at all with all the NFL on the field. Nassib or Dysert just do not look like they belong on the field with the big boys...

nepg · 01-26-2013, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

Tyler Wilson may not have Glennon size but he's plenty big for the position. Does Wilson have a huge arm? No he doesn't but he can make all the throws thru the intermediate level and the deep ball is a work in progress; like I stated before I think the deep ball struggles come from footwork issues that need to be ironed out over not having the arm to be able to make the throws.

I wouldn't even bother with Tyler Wilson. His injury history, particularly the concussions, is scary. Maybe in like the 4th round I'd start thinking I could take a chance on developing him behind an entrenched starter. He'd be a great fit on a team like Dallas.

Babylon · 01-26-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bolt

Vernon is looking like a 2013 Fred Bileknikoff. Also, I think Kyle Long has found a nice home at LG!

I kind of like Kyle Long at guard where he can use his strong hands to shove people around inside. As much as I like brother Chris I'd say Kyle got dad's mean streak.

Babylon · 01-26-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NIN1984

Ansah was just non-stop, he was great all day.

Ixnay on the praise there, a lot of us are hoping for a giant slide to the bottom of round 1. maybe we can make up a fake girlfriend.

WCH · 01-26-2013, 06:44 PM

I think that Manuel is going to make some people eat some crow.

Babylon · 01-26-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WCH

I think that Manuel is going to make some people eat some crow.

Let's be honest here. It doesn't hurt that a second and third round QB, who can throw the ball and escape the pocket, talking Wilson and Kaepernick, had great success this year. Personally not a huge Manuel fan but his stock in this really bad year for QBs could be moving on up to the big time.

I'm on board.

mdmgrand · 01-26-2013, 06:50 PM

Ansah to the Browns at 6.... I wish Dion Jordan could have played, I would've liked to see him up against top competition both in his coverage and his rushing.

FUNBUNCHER · 01-26-2013, 07:30 PM

If anyone drafts Manuel expecting him to develop into a franchise type QB is going to be very disappointed.

VAfy-ya · 01-26-2013, 07:33 PM

So am I the only one miffed to see Ansah struggle in pratice only to absolutely beast during the game?

Black Bolt · 01-26-2013, 07:33 PM

Agreed, although I'd probably consider him in the 3rd in most cases. I see him having a Chad Henne-ish career at best.

Babylon · 01-26-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bolt

This guy is a winner who completed 68% of his passes, yet wondrous one year guys like Nassib are being talked about as first rounders.

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Originally Posted by Black Bolt

Agreed, although I'd probably consider him in the 3rd in most cases. I see him having a Chad Henne-ish career at best.

you're reeling in your enthusiasm for Manuel already?

Black Bolt · 01-26-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

If anyone drafts Manuel expecting him to develop into a franchise type QB is going to be very disappointed.

And how exactly do you know that?

Black Bolt · 01-26-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Babylon

you're reeling in your enthusiasm for Manuel already?

That comment pertained to Wilson.

Black Bolt · 01-26-2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by trappeshot

black bolt you have no idea what you are talking about. Wilson is going in the top 15 rather you like it or not buddy.

LOL, here's what Walterfootball.com had to say about T. Wilson:

"Tyler Wilson looked like a right-handed version of Matt Leinart in the Senior Bowl. He spent most of his time checking down, and his one deep attempt died in the air and was nearly picked off. This was only one throw, but scouts already had reservations about his deep ball heading into the Senior Bowl, so this only validated their concerns. It's tough to imagine Wilson going in the first round now. He finished 8-of-11, but for only 39 yards."

Brothgar · 01-26-2013, 08:24 PM

This is a really interesting QB class. Any number of these guys really could be first rounders based entirely on the position they play. Geno Smith may have made the right decision not showing up and letting the rest shoot themselves in the foot. Mike Glennon was the best during practice but showed the same pocket problems that he shown in other tape. Nassib also showed an impressive practices on Monday and Tuesday but had problems on Wednesday and game day. While Manuel was unremarkable during practice blew up during the game and became MVP. Just a crazy year at this position.