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Old 01-31-2013, 02:32 PM    (permalink
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Wonder if Pete Carroll wants to pair Reggie Bush with Marshawn Lynch. Bet he does.
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Wonder if Pete Carroll wants to pair Reggie Bush with Marshawn Lynch. Bet he does.
Why would he waste that money? Turbin was a great pick-up and I think Bush wants more carries then the few that are left after Lynch. Somebody like Green Bay or Detroit would utilize him a lot more. Seattle needs to hold onto that cap space to lock up some of their younger guys in house.
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Why would he waste that money?
Who knows what Reggie Bush's open-market value is? Assuming the Dolphins let him go, that's two teams that have let him walk, and at this point everyone in the league knows the kind of player he is. I think it's possible he could be pretty reasonably-priced. I think there's as much of a role for him in Seattle as there would be in Detroit or Green Bay. In either of those places he's going to be used as a scat back, outlet receiver and possibly a return man, and that's how he'd be used in Seattle, too.

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Turbin was a great pick-up and I think Bush wants more carries then the few that are left after Lynch. Somebody like Green Bay or Detroit would utilize him a lot more. Seattle needs to hold onto that cap space to lock up some of their younger guys in house.
I might be in the minority here, but while Turbin seems like a great guy and he plays hard, this is the NFL. What he showed in his rookie season is that he is not a hugely dynamic player. Reggie Bush still offers some very unique ability. He wouldn't just be taking the carries that are left over from Lynch - he'd be playing for Pete Carroll again. Golden Tate and Sidney Rice can take care of the downfield game, and Reggie Bush would be the chess piece Pete Carroll craves on offense. Marshawn would keep right on doing his thing, and Reggie could do what made him great at USC - let LenDale White (now Marshawn) pound on defenses, and then pick up chunks of yards on screens, tosses and other plays that allow a fast player to take advantage of a tired, beat-up defense. He'd give Russell Wilson a fantastic check-down option. Don't have any problem at all imagining that Bush could get a handful of carries a game and then catch 5 passes as well, and it could really give our offense an added dimension. We're not looking for another stud running back, because we've got Marshawn Lynch, but Reggie Bush is Reggie Bush. In some ways I think Seattle's a perfect place for him, but you're right - his contract demands are going to be important, and it only takes one team to offer him a premium contract to ensure that he stays a mediocre starting running back instead of the X-factor he was in college.
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Reggie Bush has been far from mediocre the last few years.
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Reggie Bush has been far from mediocre the last few years.
Yeah I think he has proved that he can be a feature back. If he came to Green Bay he'd be more than a change of pace/third down back.
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I said "mediocre starter." If you named 32 starters he'd probably be in the middle third.

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Yeah I think he has proved that he can be a feature back. If he came to Green Bay he'd be more than a change of pace/third down back.
I think he's ideally more like a Randall Cobb/Percy Harvin-type player who's more towards the running back side than the receiver side. They're all terrific players, but they excel in particular roles.

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I agree w/LL that Bush is unlikely to go to a team where he will be the change of pace guy. He went to Miami for the chance to be the every down back and I'd be surprised if he were willing to accept anything less than (at least) the chance to be the #1 guy.

If Benson is gone, Green Bay looks appealing (speaking for Reggie,) as does a place like Detroit where Mikel didn't blow the doors off in his first shot at full-time play.
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The Packers most effective back last season was a guy who was cut by the Jags and Steelers. Let that sink in for a minute.

Bush would immediately be "the man" in Green Bay, but he'd probably have to be willing to take less money than other teams are offering.
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The Packers most effective back last season was a guy who was cut by the Jags and Steelers. Let that sink in for a minute.

Bush would immediately be "the man" in Green Bay, but he'd probably have to be willing to take less money than other teams are offering.
And we loved him as well! He was the best RB we've seen in years ahaha.
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Why don't they just draft a RB? It amazes me. RBs are so damn easy to find, yet GB can't find one. It's puzzling.

Hell, you can find one late in the draft, it's not like they have to spend a high pick on one. They're all over the place.
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Why don't they just draft a RB? It amazes me. RBs are so damn easy to find, yet GB can't find one. It's puzzling.

Hell, you can find one late in the draft, it's not like they have to spend a high pick on one. They're all over the place.
I've said it before: I don't think the position is a very high priority to the Front Office. Maybe that changes now that it's the Ravens and 49ers in the Super Bowl.
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I've said it before: I don't think the position is a very high priority to the Front Office. Maybe that changes now that it's the Ravens and 49ers in the Super Bowl.
It doesn't have to be high priority though. That's the frustrating part. You can find someone in round 5. Hell, there are UDFA RBs who thrive around the league. And they can't find one? I just don't get it.

I blame their scouting department. Whoever is responsible for scouting RBs is not doing a very good job.
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I blame their scouting department. Whoever is responsible for scouting RBs is not doing a very good job.
Just like whomever responsible for Scouting Defensive players for the Saints hasn't been doing a good job for the past 6 years... outside of Cam Jordan, and Akiem Hicks.
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Just like whomever responsible for Scouting Defensive players for the Saints hasn't been doing a good job for the past 6 years... outside of Cam Jordan, and Akiem Hicks.
I had high hopes for Ellis. What did Saints do to him?
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I had high hopes for Ellis. What did Saints do to him?
He had one great year in 2010 where he was in on 30 tackles, put up 6 sacks, had 2 Forced Fumbles and was just a difference maker, other than that he's just been a disappointment. Get's stymied at the Line of scrimmage on pass downs,or pushed off the ball on run downs. This was even a contract year for him, and he pretty much disappeared.
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Marshawn would keep right on doing his thing, and Reggie could do what made him great at USC - let LenDale White (now Marshawn) pound on defenses, and then pick up chunks of yards on screens, tosses and other plays that allow a fast player to take advantage of a tired, beat-up defense. He'd give Russell Wilson a fantastic check-down option. Don't have any problem at all imagining that Bush could get a handful of carries a game and then catch 5 passes as well, and it could really give our offense an added dimension.
I can all but guarantee Reggie Bush isn't going into unrestricted free agency with his choice of destinations, and signing with a team for a 'handful of carries' a game. All for him to get a chance to play for Pete Carroll? This is his last big contract, it's not like he's 34 years old. He would get more money from GB or Detroit and be featured pretty heavily, and he would easily go back to Miami and get the ball more there.


With Seattle needing to sign Earl Thomas soon, Richard Sherman(who is way under paid), maybe Chancellor, and some other key pieces, where is the money going to come from to sign Reggie Bush for a few carries and a couple swing passes a game?


Lynch just had over 300 carries, you don't go out and get a high priced FA RB to go behind your feature back who is used like a workhorse and will make over 7 million dollars a year. You can draft somebody for what you are describing in the 7th round.
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I can all but guarantee Reggie Bush isn't going into unrestricted free agency with his choice of destinations, and signing with a team for a 'handful of carries' a game. All for him to get a chance to play for Pete Carroll?
The "handful of carries" was only one part of how I suggested they would use them. And yes, I do think there's a chance that he might take less money to again play for the coach who helped to make his name, in a situation that is very similar to what he had at USC. LenDale White was the Trojan's starting running back. He received more carries. Does this mean Reggie Bush was second fiddle? Obviously not. He contributed running the ball, catching the ball, and returning kicks and I think there's a place for that player on Seattle, where Robert Turbin doesn't blow you away as Marshawn's primary backup, where we have little dynamism in the short passing game, and where our main return man, Leon Washington, is good but not irreplaceable and will be 31 next year.

Reggie Bush got his shot to be a starting running back in Miami, and for one year he was genuinely good, and then this last year the injuries hit again, he was less effective, and ultimately the Dolphins seem prepared to let him go, even though they aren't exactly stacked with playmakers. I'm proposing that the 'Hawks could sign him not to be a running back, but a playmaker. Our offense could use that, and we could justify paying a decent amount of money to a guy we'd expect to give 80-100 carries and expect to catch another 40+ passes, and those are conservative numbers. Our offense was blowing up the second half of the season, and if Sidney Rice, Golden Tate and Marshawn Lynch just keep doing what they've been doing, there's room for another offensive mover and that could be Reggie Bush. I can pretty easily see him getting close to a thousand scrimmage yards and it being a mutually-beneficial situation where he is on a good offense and doesn't have to carry the load, and that offense has gained the big-play threat they've been seeking for several years.
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I don't think you understand NFL players. Reggie Bush isn't going to take less money AND a lesser role, just so he can play for Seattle. It doesn't matter who the coach is. Even he was going to have a featured role in the offense, the chances of him going to Seattle for less money are slim. And he isn't going to go to Seattle for a lesser role, even if they offer him the amount of money other teams would offer him. It just isn't going to happen. You're deluding yourself if you think he would.
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Bush would easily be an upgrade in New York, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Green Bay, Denver, San Diego, Atlanta, and Arizona. He may even attract interest from Detroit and Indianapolis. With that many options, no way does he take a backup role in Seattle.
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And again, I'll just ask if anyone here thinks he "backed up" LenDale White at USC. It would be a similar role to that.
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Mike Tolbert took less money and less playing time last year. His contract was way less than Bush's will probably be but the situation isn't uncommon.

Bush has already made a lot of money in the NFL and at USC (ha) so I wouldn't be completely shocked if he went to play with his old head coach. A potential Super Bowl team that is coached by the last guy who he was highly success with.

Obviously it shouldn't be top priority for Seattle though. They need to work on keeping that defense together and maybe adding a WR. I did like the way they got Zach Miller more involved later in the year.
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