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Old 02-16-2013, 03:51 PM    (permalink
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If anyone wants to request scouting report(s) for specific players, I'll write up an analysis for you if you throw a name out, provided I can find footage.
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i am always interested in hearin what people think of guys i really like.

i will post links to some simple youtube cut up for you. i need 10 posts first tho. so check below this post for links.
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TE Jack Doyle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJalXNARso4

RB Christine Michael http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBQnOz6nhxE

QB Jeff Tuel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udvB2vGs5uw

S Jamar Taylor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOfxLoHd86Q

DE William Gholston vs. OT Eric Fisher http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w8buzKTYss


My take- Doyle is underrated. Soft Hands. Good Blocker. Understands routes. Understands football. Quick. Plays fast.


Christine Michael- Not overly fast. Good size. Quick feet. Can make you miss. You dont want to tackle this guy. Runs with purpose. Can catch the ball and block.

QB Jeff Tuel- Strong arm. Good pocket presence. Good size. Can run. I cant figure out why his stats are the way they are.

Jamar Taylor-Plays all over the field. Believe he is a corner

William Gholston- Great size and measureables.Uses hands well. Very strong. Plays with good leverage. Not a great pass rusher because he needs to get quicker and develop. Plays against the run very well. I think he will be a very good DE in the nfl.

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Doyle is underrated. Soft Hands. Good Blocker. Understands routes. Understands football. Quick. Plays fast.
When I was watching WKU for Andrew Jackson I was quite impressed by him. He's not a guy that you expect to be a top 10 TE but he looks like a solid 2 or 3 TE.
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I really enjoy hearing or reading people's thoughts on Denard Robinson.
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Robinson will be hard to study because of the transition to WR. He is clearly an explosive athlete, but can he catch/run routes/block? There is very little tape of him doing any of those things.
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Alright. I'll go with a list of the aforementioned prospects and post them when I do them.
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i think he will make the most impact as a pr and kr. maybe as a 3rd down rb in running in the flats and catching screens. it will take a longg time for him to get used to playin slot. if ever. he will be overdrafted though.
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opinion on dion jordan is interesting. purely a poor mans michael johnson. the freakish height in combination with anorexic hips is essentially scorched earth for their team in question. the highest he should go is in the 3rd. could go top 10 due to propaganda machines. questions on moore, werner and hunt will arise yet will all be more sufficient at the position.

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opinion on dion jordan is interesting. purely a poor mans michael johnson. the freakish height in combination with anorexic hips is essentially scorched earth for their team in question. the highest he should go is in the 3rd. could go top 10 due to propaganda machines. questions on moore, werner and hunt will arise yet will all be more sufficient at the position.

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Hunt is an underrated prole, ye?
selfless with unbelieveable genetics and a work ethic challenged by no one. to answer your question indeed. more than sufficient production as a 3-4 end. the eye in the sky does not pop but he understands how to play the cowardly zone run unlike the majority of the premier league. The same zone run that allows TRUE proles that lack genetics as ****ing alfred morris to run for 1600. In any other scheme he is likely reduced to special teams or moved to fullback. With regards to hunt he is very relevant, for he has both proletarian work ethic and potential that lies in the celestial bodies. You only find this from the USSR.

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I think it's funny that your handle is after a guy who quit football to suck at baseball.
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TE Jack Doyle - Western Kentucky. 6'5" 252lbs.

I see a player who is a pretty good blocker and has decent hands, but cannot separate from defenders or create after the catch. I feel like if he's wide open you can trust him not to drop it, but I think he'll be pretty easy for NFL defenders to cover. On the other hand, I do like his effort and consistency as a blocker. Enough to wonder if he could continue to get stronger and find ways to contribute to a professional offense. But basically, I see a kid who's probably not going to be drafted, but would land in a training camp somewhere, a coach would like his work ethic and decide to keep him around, and he ends up cashing some NFL paychecks. Definitely has value, but I don't see teams really competing for him.


RB Christine Michael - Texas A&M

I really like Christine Michael. His production dropoff this year definitely could make you balk at first, but Texas A&M had a special season with Johnny Manziel breaking out, and that totally changed their offense. Ben Malena is going to be a pro player, so it's not like Michael lost his starting spot to an average Joe, and he still got the goal line and short yardage carries, showing that his team still had a lot of confidence in him. He's the perfect triangle-numbers running back, with great size and power as well as speed and some good moves in the open field. One thing I've read about him is that with his changing role on the offense, he's put a lot more work and energy into his pass-blocking. That's always good to hear. He's also got relatively low mileage for a senior, although there have been some injury concerns. I honestly think he is a lot like Jonathan Stewart. Which means, realistically, that I don't think he should be drafted in the same slot Stewart was. He looks like he can be somebody's starting running back if he can stay healthy, and at the least he's going to be a solid player who will demand carries in the NFL.


QB Jeff Tuel

Looks to have some arm talent and athleticism, but has played for pretty bad teams and hasn't been healthy. Wish I could find more footage. Right now is someone I think might be worth a flier despite a less-than-impressive statistical resume. He makes me think of the kind of player the NFL would send to NFL Europe for a couple of years to see how he played in a professional situation. As of now, I don't see him being drafted, but sort of like Jack Doyle I think there are teams who will invite him to camp, and when I watch him I have some optimism that he could carve out a bit of an NFL career. I never try to cap somebody's potential in scouting reports, but I don't see him as a starter. I see him as someone who would interest a coach, but wouldn't necessarily be coveted, per se.


DE William Gholston - Michigan State

I remember noticing Gholston while watching MSU a couple years ago. He really jumped off the screen at me. He was just mauling some offensive line. While watching him more, I haven't consistently seen that kind of dominance, but at his best, he's almost a defensive-end-version of Ndamukong Suh. Take the good and the bad with that. He gets flagged way more than he should, and is overall a somewhat undisciplined player. He'll fall for reverses and misdirection because he's so eager to put a hit on anybody that he'll just follow the flow of plays seeking collisions. He doesn't always do this, but I've seen it happen more than once. He's tall and long and can disrupt throwing lanes. That's another thing I like about him. Another complaint might be that he finds himself trying to bat down passes instead of sacking the quarterback because he has trouble getting off of good blocks. Doesn't display many moves. But he's definitely got the Gholston genes, and he's got some fire, too. There are coaches who will like him a lot and want to bring the best out in him.


OT Eric Fisher - Central Michigan

strong and holds his ground.

super athletic and can readjust on the fly.

Is good at using defenders' momentum to ride them out of plays. Good technique.

Handled Gholston easily.

Good hand placement, balance and maintenance of leverage.

Elite prospect.


WR Keenan Allen - Cal. 6' 3" 210lbs.

I'm a big fan of Keenan Allen. He's more explosive than some people give him credit for. I love the way he runs after the catch. He's big and has a good catching radius, and will go up after inaccurate passes. You've got to understand that Keenan Allen has been chasing stray rockets his entire college career. He's been the only receiver on an offense with a bad quarterback. He is the epitome of a player is is playing above the level of his teammates. You get him on an NFL team with other real threats, and a QB whose throws he doesn't have to do circus tricks to catch, and he's going to be a really valauable addition for some offense. He's really smooth and athletic, and I see him becoming a very good route runner. He's not the fastest recevier you'll ever see, but he's got the wheels to rip off a big one. He profiles to me as a no. 1 option in some team's passing attack, and he'd be a terrific compliment to a true burner.


ATH Denard Robinson - Michigan. 5'10" 196lbs.

I also love Denard Robinson. It would have been great to see him smoothly transition to wide receiver at the Senior Bowl, but I'm not going to hold it against him. He's going to have time to practice, and he's a hard worker. You never hear anything bad about him, and he was a good sport about mostly-ceding the starting QB job he'd held his entire career at the end of his senior season. Had a couple of 100-yard rushing games getting snaps as a running back. I definitely see him as a gadget player, but in today's NFL that means I see him as a player who could get a lot of yards a lot of different ways. I think he's going to run very fast at the combine. Those players get taken early. He might be a little bigger than Chris Johnson, and Chris Johnson even had some injury issues in college. But some team might see that kind of potential in him. I have a feeling Denard will end up a player quite a few people think was "overdrafted," at least initially, but there'll be a team that falls in love with his speed and playmaking ability. I don't feel like I can guarantee him being a sure thing, and in a weird way actually kind of consider him a boom-or-bust, but that connotation typically implies character concerns and I definitely don't see that here. He's the kind of player I'd be willing to gamble on. His ceiling looks high enough that I just wouldn't feel bad for trying, even if some people see it as the reckless use of a high draft pick.


QB Landry Jones - Oklahoma

Classic case of a player who has the tools but I question the constitution. It's really about as simple as that. He can make every throw. He doesn't always do it. Pressure rattles him, and you've got to be able to deal with pressure if you're an NFL quarterback. I haven't watched much of him this year, but I watched a lot of his junior year tape last year and that was my impression of him. Saw a big-armed backup. If he can put it together, he's got a lot of physical talent, but he hasn't impressed me as the type who can thrive despite team breakdowns on the field. I feel like he had a lot of support at Oklahoma. I mean, if you got him on a team with a great offensive line and he hardly ever got pressured, he could probably drop a lot of beautiful passes into the arms of a talented receiving corps. But if he's just on a typical team, which is about as good as any other team, I don't know if I believe in his ability to elevate the play of his teammates or carry a team.

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