03-06-2013, 06:34 AM
Join Date: Jan 2012
Originally Posted by brasho
So you let our only decent CB go in Biggers...you let Blount walk who clearly has value.
Biggers was on my list to keep but i liked the other corners more so decided to see if he would slip if i didn't get the ones i wanted. I don't really see the value in Blount that you can't get out of any other HB in de draft but he still is unsigned so maybe i will bring him back.
Then you signed two CBs that are usually injured and have never been a regular starter in the league. Delanie Walker is decent, good athlete, bad hands, not exactly a free agent treasure. Then you signed a DE that will turn 33 during the season (clearly the Bucs like to invest draft picks in the front 4 but not free agent money). Then you signed a LB that has spent the last portion of his career in a 3-4 and clearly doesn't have the movement necessary for the Bucs 4-3. And then there's Okoye... which I won't even bother with...okay, can't resist, signed him last season, didn't work, didn't endear himself to team, got cut, he bad mouthed the team, then the Bears cut him and his bad knee... he's done with the league... and most definitely the Bucs are done with him.
Derek Cox is one of the best young corners in the league and while he had some injury problems i really think he is much better than Biggers. Brice McCain is a nickle back and i signed him as that. Delanie Walker whil he shows bad hands at times he is a really good blocker and there aren't really any real good TE's this year. I tried to sign Martellus Bennett first wave for market value but he stayed with the Giants for an slightly lesser deal. Larry Grant en Israel Idonije are both depth players and i see Idonije more for a DT spot to get pressure on QB's but he will be a back-up mostly. Grant in my eyes can play the mike and is like i said more a back-up than a starter. Okoye i already admitted the mistake and i agree with the fact he never will be a Buc again.
Then the draft... not nearly as bad as free agency, but still not much thought went in there.
Mingo i could see as a possibility... He could play Sam on run downs and DE on passing downs. He would be our version of Von Miller. It's possible though I would prefer several options over him for that position alone.
I really wanted Xavier Rhodes who i think can very well be the guy that gets picked but he was just taken before me. All 3 top DT prospects where gone and i felt it was too early for Austin or Trufant so i wanted to trade back. Didn't get any offers so i decided to go with Mingo
Robert Alford did okay at the Senior Bowl and showed he can hang. I'm not sure he's 2nd round material, but I don't dislike him as a prospect.
In my mind there is a group of corners very close for that 2nd/3rd round grade. Again wanted to trade down because the guys i really wanted was gone before me(Zach Ertz, Eric Reid). Again no offers came in so decided to go with the guy i would have preferred more to the end of the 2nd.
DJ Swearinger... still trying to figure out where he gets a 3rd round grade. I feel he projects better in the box than at FS where we would need him. He doesn't run all that well and he isn't very tall. I would think even the people that love him would agree that early round 3 is too soon.
I really like him and he could be an awesome duo with Barron in my mind. Besides that i believe Barber played pretty close to the line this year at FS but that can be my mistake.
Same with Ricky Wagner, most probably see him as a 5th round pick at his absolute best. Still with the Bucs OLine coach's connection to UW, it might make sense.
I see him as a 4th rounder as a RT to back-up Dotson for the first year and maybe take over when Dotson's contract expires
As for Montori Hughes, I doubt he is even on the Bucs draft board considering his character issues. Even if he was, he wouldn't be very high up as they favor the more athletic types.
Montori Hughes is pretty athletic and will fill the spot of Miller as a NT type in the 4-3. I know of his character concerns but i feel he has a pretty good value at the end of the 4th.
Your draft isn't terrible, but for the most part you have a bunch of reaches and career special teamers. Not exactly something that will help this team in the near future.
I think the fact that you are fairly unfamiliar with the Bucs, perhaps you should have asked questions BEFORE you ran the offseason because if free agency (and the $40 million they have to spend) and the draft goes as you chose, you would be run out of town.
Yeah i think i should have asked before but i read this thread and decided to go with my own instincts. A good lesson for next time to ask some things before the free agency and such to get a better idea of the team.
My answers are in Bold.
By now i decided to add Levine Toilolo to the mix on offense.