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Well we have a lot of those guys in Tuck, Snee, Rolle, and D.D.
I think Rolle deserves his money, for the most part.
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Also, I know there are good corners in this draft, but Mike Jenkins from Dallas? I feel like he is a guy who could turn around his career with us.
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I think Rolle deserves his money, for the most part.
Yeah, plus he is a vocal leader. However, he is making a lot and we have options at S. We have Brown, and Hill, and we will tinker with TT. We can always draft 1 and bring in as UFA. That might not be enough, but we would save money to use in other areas.

Rolle played well, but eventually our costs get high. But I'd see what we can do with D.D., Tuck, Snee and then address Rolle. I wouldn't start with him.
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I wonder what Adrian Wilson would take to come play here. I always liked him a ton for the Cardinals. Didn't get to see the Cards last season though, so I don't know if his play declined too bad?
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That's the thing we can't restructure and cut people only to sign people off FA. I think all these guys will cost more money. Wilson, S. Jackson, and so on. I am not sure we have the funds to shop at the brand name clothing rack. It's discount shopping for us.
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I like the Cullen Jenkins signing, that gives us a solid Dline if Kiwi moves to DE as many expect.
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Power Move from Reese with the Jenkins sign.
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Reportedly we are interested in DE Jason Jones.

We should also find out tonight what we'll tender Cruz and both Browns as.
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He very well can go to another team, but he won't get those out of football endorsements and deals like he would in the NY media market. The Miami one would be a great one but outside of that I doubt he can find a great blend of football money and outside of football profits for his career shelf life like here in the NY market.
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Victor Cruz received a 1st round tender.
Andre and Stevie Brown received 2nd round tenders.
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http://snygiants.com/new-york-giants...n-victor-cruz/

Cruz got his tender. Based on what I've seen we made Cruz the biggest deal we felt we could while still having money for other key guys and won't budge. Now the ball is in Cruz's court
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Andre and Stevie Brown received 2nd round tenders.
And that basically eats up all the 8 million in gap space. So now we need to cut, or have someone take a paycut. So, D.D. is on the center stage with that.
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I think Cruz is looking for a much bigger payday than we can afford.

No surprise with the tenders, they are moves we had to make.

There will be interest with Cruz off the first round tender. Percy Harvin's trade included the Seahawks first round pick.
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And that basically eats up all the 8 million in gap space. So now we need to cut, or have someone take a paycut. So, D.D. is on the center stage with that.
Diehl is the front runner, though Eli, Snee and Rolle could be in the mix
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The Cowboys released LB Dan Connor, he would be a good option in free agency
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We should be able to restructure Eli's contract, shouldn't we? Just give him a huge bonus and shave off some of the guaranteed money, or something? It's not like he doesn't deserve the money, or is in danger of suddenly sucking at QB in the near future? *knocks on wood* As for Diehl, just cut his ass. Snee and Rolle needs to restructure a bit as well. Rolle is likely gone next offseason unless he does it anyway.
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"We haven’t really talked about that. That’s always an option at some point in time, but he’s proven to be worth the amount of salary-cap space that’s been allocated to him.

"That’s something you could always do at some point to create more room. But again, the more room you create in current years, you have to pay that back at some point in time, and you don’t want to put yourself in a position where you are in salary-cap jail and you’re forced to cut an inordinate number of players. That’s something that may be discussed at some point in the future, but that’s not on our radar right now."

Looks like Mara doesn't want to hit up Eli just yet.
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Fair enough. Then cut Diehl, and restructure Snee and Rolle. Tell Tuck to take a pay cut or get cut. I think the coaching staff and front office are a bit scared of making demands to Tuck, tbh. I think they are overrating how much he means to the locker room and fans. Be harder on him, he should be held accountable for his poor performance just like any other player on the team.
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Restructuring Eli just kicks the money down the road. Not a good idea. They should extend him.

Cruz also changing agents!! Mara must have got to him.
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Fair enough. Then cut Diehl, and restructure Snee and Rolle. Tell Tuck to take a pay cut or get cut. I think the coaching staff and front office are a bit scared of making demands to Tuck, tbh. I think they are overrating how much he means to the locker room and fans. Be harder on him, he should be held accountable for his poor performance just like any other player on the team.
Well, that might be the options because of cap issues. That's why I said this off season will be very important! This will be Reese's biggest off season to date I said.

He will have to be shrewd in his roster management ways. D.D., Tuck, Snee, and Rolle. Webster was put to the test. Pay cut or cut, and he took the pay cut. I think his value would be low coming off a season like this. Plus he is a FA next season I think, so if he does well, he builds his value up. We can let him go, and get the comp pick if enough people are let go and we don't sign a lot.

But my point is if fans are the ones that get attached to players, then this off season may be tough for them. The cruz fans and parents who kids love Cruz, may have to explain to the kids the business the of the NFL.

So this season, will be tough for people. We could lose Cruz, veterans, and not re-sign Boothe or MB.
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Restructuring Eli just kicks the money down the road. Not a good idea. They should extend him.

Cruz also changing agents!! Mara must have got to him.
This is the Burress situation all over again! hahaha! Fire his agent and then hired Rosenhaus and then the deal was done, we signed Burress.
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Well, that might be the options because of cap issues. That's why I said this off season will be very important! This will be Reese's biggest off season to date I said.

He will have to be shrewd in his roster management ways. D.D., Tuck, Snee, and Rolle. Webster was put to the test. Pay cut or cut, and he took the pay cut. I think his value would be low coming off a season like this. Plus he is a FA next season I think, so if he does well, he builds his value up. We can let him go, and get the comp pick if enough people are let go and we don't sign a lot.

But my point is if fans are the ones that get attached to players, then this off season may be tough for them. The cruz fans and parents who kids love Cruz, may have to explain to the kids the business the of the NFL.

So this season, will be tough for people. We could lose Cruz, veterans, and not re-sign Boothe or MB.
I agree with everything in this post.
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Tom Condon is Cruz's new agent. That's good because he represents Eli as well.
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That's a great thing to have to attract FAs. Also, Condon has Kiwi has a client to so this could help us greatly, or simply means Cruz wants a bigger known agent to negotiate a big time contract.
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I think this is a very good thing. The old agent was looking to get his name out there because Cruz was his only client.
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